Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread V

by GSC Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:24 pm

First topic message reminder :

Manziel is learning school yard football doesn't cut it in the NFL.

Until he learns the basics this will continue

by BamBam Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:14 pm

A hobbled Rodgers can't beat the Seagulls

by crazy_dave23 Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:21 pm

BamBam wrote:A hobbled Rodgers can't beat the Seagulls

by mikeygnfl Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:33 pm

Kneeling is a pretty pathetic way to win a game especially when there is plenty of time on the clock still to play. Packers could have won with a TD or got a field goal and left the Cowboys with a few seconds to get a TD.

by mikeygnfl Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:37 pm

I expected the Patriots, Seahawks and Packers to win this weekend with the one 'shock' being the Colts winning in Denver.

by Number-25 Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:38 pm

I understand the rule but really, that's a catch by Dez. The NFL, under Roger Goodell, has become 1st class at making a complete ass of itself.

by BamBam Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:11 pm

mikeygnfl wrote:Kneeling is a pretty pathetic way to win a game especially when there is plenty of time on the clock still to play. Packers could have won with a TD or got a field goal and left the Cowboys with a few seconds to get a TD.

Too much on the line for that to ever happen. Would you want to be the HC who carried on playing when he could have been in victory formation, then lost because his QB threw a pick 6, then lost an onside kick?!

by Number-25 Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:11 pm

As much as I don't like the Cowboys and I know it probably sounds daft given that they've just lost but I can't help thinking that they'd have given Seattle a better game next week than Green Bay will.

by mikeygnfl Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:26 pm

BamBam wrote:
mikeygnfl wrote:Kneeling is a pretty pathetic way to win a game especially when there is plenty of time on the clock still to play. Packers could have won with a TD or got a field goal and left the Cowboys with a few seconds to get a TD.

Too much on the line for that to ever happen. Would you want to be the HC who carried on playing when he could have been in victory formation, then lost because his QB threw a pick 6, then lost an onside kick?!

I can understand it from a coaches view. I was thinking more about the NFL wanting teams to play out the game trying to score rather than just letting the clock run down.

by GSC Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:28 pm

Run Lacy into the middle of the line 3 times. We all end up going home with a GB win.

by GSC Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:28 pm

This game seemed the most likely upset to me. Peyton isn't a top tier QB anymore.

by mikeygnfl Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:30 pm

Number-25 wrote:I understand the rule but really, that's a catch by Dez. The NFL, under Roger Goodell, has become 1st class at making a complete ass of itself.

It would have probably have been 1 and goal rather than a TD though.

by mikeygnfl Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:36 pm

Will this be Peyton Manning's swan song in the NFL?

by GSC Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:43 pm

Peytons arms been shot for a while.

He won't be back next season

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:05 pm

Demaryious Thomas is the softest WR in the league

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:06 pm

GSC wrote:Peytons arms been shot for a while.

He won't be back next season

No coincidence that report about John Fox being available of they lose comes out game day, Mr Fox knows something

by GSC Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:10 pm

John Fox is the coach you hire before you want to win something

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:42 pm

Timely reminder that Peyton only has one come from behind playoff win in his career

by Lowlandbrit Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:33 am

Olly wrote:Timely reminder that Peyton only has one come from behind playoff win in his career

So what you're saying is that he's guaranteed another ring if he pulls it off?

by mikeygnfl Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:38 am

Which would make the better Super Bowl? Brady vs Rodgers or Luck vs Wilson?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:38 am

Post season Peyton is the best

by mikeygnfl Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:39 am

Tom Brady has made nine AFC Championship games.
Peyton Manning has had nine one and out playoff runs.

by JDizzle Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:49 am

Great win and all, but the Colts celebrating on the sideline like they've won the Superbowl...

by GSC Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:53 am

Peyton may be the best ever but that was his last game

by sodhat Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:07 am

Sad to see him go out like that, if he goes out. Which he should.

Not because of the playoff loss, we've all seen that before, but he looked like a boxer that had lost his punch. No velocity on the passes and couldn't fit the ball through the windows. His accuracy was awful too.

If he retires I hope he uses his mad brain skills somewhere, maybe Tennessee.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:55 am

To say it's a huge off season for Denver would be an understatement.

You can't pay both Thomas's, Ware is past it, you've got huge money tied up in two average corners, and your QB is past it and due 20m I believe.

by sodhat Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:03 am

Elway should spend the offseason building a running game for CJ Anderson and maybe another back. Osweiler doesn't look like he's going to get it done when I've seen him play.

Plus Elway knows all about a running game carrying you to a Super Bowl...

by BamBam Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:12 am

Fast forwarded through the game this morning, looks like Peyton is done. Sad to see him go out barely able to throw the ball, but I guess with how serious that neck injury was, pretty much just a matter of time.

The Colts have got to be one of the luckiest franchises around, timing their tanking in line with Peyton and Luck is pretty special.

I like the sound of Luck vs Rodgers, but am expecting to see Brady vs Wilson

by Lowlandbrit Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:29 am

sodhat wrote:Sad to see him go out like that, if he goes out. Which he should.

Not because of the playoff loss, we've all seen that before, but he looked like a boxer that had lost his punch. No velocity on the passes and couldn't fit the ball through the windows. His accuracy was awful too.

He was pretty rubbish for the last month or two, but I think it all comes down to whether (he thinks) it was general decline or a specific injury he can rehab. Can't see it ending well for him if he does come back, but it must be tempting if you can stroll to the playoffs like he can.

by sodhat Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:57 am

I'm only now becoming annoyed about the call against Bryant. I just can't see how it isn't a catch and then a football move.

I get the rule. But it's an idiotic rule.

by mikeygnfl Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:15 pm

Lowlandbrit wrote:
sodhat wrote:Sad to see him go out like that, if he goes out. Which he should.

Not because of the playoff loss, we've all seen that before, but he looked like a boxer that had lost his punch. No velocity on the passes and couldn't fit the ball through the windows. His accuracy was awful too.
He was pretty rubbish for the last month or two, but I think it all comes down to whether (he thinks) it was general decline or a specific injury he can rehab. Can't see it ending well for him if he does come back, but it must be tempting if you can stroll to the playoffs like he can.

Agree. They said Peyton was healthy. If he wasn't 100% towards the end of the season I could see him coming back. I would if the Broncos could start Osweiler for the first half of the season and bring Peyton back in the second half of the season? If John Fox goes and Adam Gase gets promoted maybe Manning could become OC in Denver? They will have Montee Ball back next year as well as CJ Anderson so should have a pretty solid running game.

by mikeygnfl Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:23 pm

sodhat wrote:I'm only now becoming annoyed about the call against Bryant. I just can't see how it isn't a catch and then a football move.

I get the rule. But it's an idiotic rule.

I thought he was down by contact just sort of the line. Perhaps if he wasn't shown all week running on the field against the Lions when he shouldn't have been he may have got the benefit of the doubt.

by BamBam Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:34 pm

The (idiotic, ridiculous, moronic) rule was applied correctly, whatever he did last week definitely wasn't taken into account

by sodhat Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:35 pm

I don't know if I can see Manning getting into coaching because he's such a perfectionist he'd drive his players into the ground. Media or front office work I think would be something he'd go for, I'd be surprised if he walks away from the game totally.

by GSC Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:39 pm

Julius Thomas isn't good, no worries about letting him walk

by TM Moot Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:47 pm

BamBam wrote:The Colts have got to be one of the luckiest franchises around, timing their tanking in line with Peyton and Luck is pretty special.

never a truer word written...

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:15 pm

And Fox leaves Denver

by Lowlandbrit Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:29 pm

Olly wrote:And Fox leaves Denver

And Jason Garrett is now technically a free agent, which I guess means even the coaches at the Pro Bowl will be replacements...

by mikeygnfl Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:56 pm

Lowlandbrit wrote:
Olly wrote:And Fox leaves Denver
And Jason Garrett is now technically a free agent, which I guess means even the coaches at the Pro Bowl will be replacements...

Garrett has signed a new 5 year deal with the Cowboys.

by sodhat Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:17 am

Todd Bowles to the Jets.

He's from New Jersey which is the only way his decision makes sense.

by mikeygnfl Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:01 pm

It looks like Broncos DC Jack Del Rio will be the Raiders new head coach.

The 49ers are close to signing Adam Gase, for some reason, as their head coach apparently.

Dan Quinn was keen in the Jets job but may settle for the Falcons instead.

by GSC Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:42 pm

Ron Jeremy is the new 49ers HC

by Lowlandbrit Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:31 pm

GSC wrote:Ron Jeremy is the new 49ers HC

Going to have to find a new DC by the sound of it, can't help but feel a little worried about what they're doing there. Feels more like a team looking to start again than a team looking to make a final push for the top.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:57 pm

York/Baalke have there yes man. Imagine if Jerruh just fired a HC who took Dallas to 3 conference title games and then hired the D line coach who hasn't really done much to deserve a HC shot. He'd be pillared in the media. It's mental how they're getting away with this.

Add into that they're losing one of the best DC's in the league in Fangio as well. Spells disaster to me

by Lowlandbrit Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:42 pm

Olly wrote:And Fox leaves Denver

And Fox enters Chicago

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:49 pm

I'm putting £15 on Indy so the inevitable pain of Monday morning at least brings some monetary gain with it

by TM Moot Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:27 pm

Olly wrote:I'm putting £15 on Indy so the inevitable pain of Monday morning at least brings some monetary gain with it

think i'll do the same with the seahawks Rolling Eyes

by Lowlandbrit Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:57 pm

Time to bring this back from gambling to important things; the starters for everyone's beloved all-star game have been announced. I speak, obviously, of the Puppy Bowl: http://www.animalplanet.com/tv-shows/puppy-bowl/photos/xi-starting-lineup/

And for those that don't enjoy puppies, here are the participants for the Kitten Bowl (what it lacks in history, it makes up in puns): http://uk.eonline.com/news/614905/2015-kitten-bowl-check-out-photos-of-all-the-adorable-players

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:15 pm

What a play by Sherman

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:28 pm

Oh go for it McCarthy grow some balls

by GSC Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:28 pm

Take the points. This may not be high scoring

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