Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread V

by GSC Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:24 pm

First topic message reminder :

Manziel is learning school yard football doesn't cut it in the NFL.

Until he learns the basics this will continue

by mikeygnfl Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:33 pm

I can't take those Patriots' press conference seriously with quotes like "My balls are perfect" and " I didn't want anyone touching and rubbing my balls".

by Lowlandbrit Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:31 pm

mikeygnfl wrote:I can't take those Patriots' press conference seriously with quotes like "My balls are perfect" and " I didn't want anyone touching and rubbing my balls".

http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/tom-brady-talking-about-balls-the-supercut-1681225270/all

by WhiteCamry Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:39 pm

mikeygnfl wrote:I can't take those Patriots' press conference seriously with quotes like "My balls are perfect" and " I didn't want anyone touching and rubbing my balls".

"Tom Brady wouldn't stop saying 'balls' and the Internet couldn't stop giggling"

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:56 pm

I've decided what's going to happen

We're gonna win this Super Bowl and Brady will tie Montana with his 4th ring.

Then next year, at Super Bowl 50, in San Francisco, Brady will surpass Montana by winning his 5th ring in the place he grew up and go out on top

#writteninthestars

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:16 pm

Belichick is currently giving a science lesson to America lol

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:31 pm

They should've played the NWO music when belichick left the podium

by mikeygnfl Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:02 pm

I don't see what the problem is as per the NFL rules. It should have been upto the officials to determine any problem and if so deal with it:-

"The Referee shall be the sole judge as to whether all balls offered for play comply with these specifications".

"In the event a home team ball does not conform to specifications, or its supply is exhausted, the Referee shall secure a proper
ball from the visitors and, failing that, use the best available ball".

by Skyforger Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:21 pm

Those rules only apply to the other 31 teams in the league.

by mikeygnfl Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:41 pm

Skyforger wrote:Those rules only apply to the other 31 teams in the league.

No doubt if the Patriots are deflating balls... Every team in the NFL is deflating balls. They can't be the only team 'clever/ cunning' enough to think it up.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:16 pm

"@ProFootballTalk: As @AdamSchefter reports, Josh Gordon is facing one-year suspension. Per source, Gordon tested positive for alcohol."

Alcohol? That's a joke surely

by GSC Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:18 pm

He got a dui so this was part of his tests going forward.

Don't give this dumbass any sympathy, he doesn't deserve it

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:34 pm

That's what I'm saying how can he be so stupid, he's got serious issues

by TM Moot Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:58 am

Seeing the season is now all but done, can anyone give me a heads up on this years draft class?

I'm not up to speed on College football, so who's to look out for and who's going be first pick?

by sodhat Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:35 am

Alcohol being tested for is a bit harsh isn't it? Not illegal to have a couple of beers, he's a grown ass man.

If it were weed then sure, but alcohol resulting in a year suspension?

by GSC Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:45 am

There's a threshold he has to pass (like a dui etc)

Its a year because of past failed tests. And alcohol was only added to his tests because he had a dui.

A NFL career clearly doesn't matter to this guy. Sad really.

by sodhat Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:54 am

I get that, but come on, he can't have a beer because he had a DUI?

People that get caught drink driving over here aren't subject to regular checks to see if they've had a sneaky pina colada.

It's like testing him for nicotine if he got caught smoking indoors.

by GSC Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:59 am

Because he got a dui and he's had many failed drug tests it got added to his program.

I get alcohol sounds harsh but if he had any desire to be a NFL player/star, he'd put the bottle down

by Lowlandbrit Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:57 pm

TM Moot wrote:Seeing the season is now all but done, an anyone goive me a heads up on this years draft class?

I'm not up to speed on College football, so who's to look out for and who's going be first pick?

Get ready for a great deal of discussion about Jameis Winston. Pros: Bit like Ben Roethlisberger. Cons: Bit too much like Ben Roethlisberger...

by sodhat Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:14 pm

Pros: Experience in a professional style offense

Cons: Steals seafood products

by TM Moot Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:44 pm

Heard of Jameis, and some Marriota bloke (spelling!).

Any Lucks out there, or is it agood year to be picking at the bottom?

by JDizzle Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:25 pm

You have to go Jameis number 1 if you're Tampa. Worth a punt, even if he has some 'issues'. Bit of a crap draft really, not a patch on last year's talent.

by Breadvan Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:26 pm

Sorry to drag this back to the deflate thing but a few things I don't get.
The officials touch the ball before every snap. Why didn't they notice anything?
Only deflated in the first half, when it was relatively close, so NE blew Indy away with fully inflated balls in the second.

by GSC Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:29 pm

I wouldn't touch Winston high.

Cant trust him to stay out of Goodells office

by JDizzle Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:32 pm

He's so much more pro-ready than Mariota though. I'd take the punt, but the interviews will be the big thing for him. The other option is Leonard Williams, who probably is the best player in the draft.

by GSC Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:35 pm

Id take Mariota on the field over Winston in the stands.

He's too stupid to trust as the fave of your franchise

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:29 pm

Winston's easily the better player, he's just very very immature. Not sure Mariota is much better than someone like Locker

by mikeygnfl Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:09 pm

TM Moot wrote:Heard of Jameis, and some Marriota bloke (spelling!).

Any Lucks out there, or is it a good year to be picking at the bottom?

Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota are the two stand-out QBs in the draft. After that there is not much depth at QB. You would be looking at Brett Hundley and possibly Bryce Petty or Garrett Grayson. That will mean the QB free agency will have more value.

At the moment Mariota is the consensus no 1 pick, possibly a more safer option than Winston. Leonard Williams at DT is another possibly no 1 pick. Amari Cooper, Kevin White, Todd Gurley and Melvin Gordon are probably the best offensive players at WR and RB.

by mikeygnfl Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:13 pm

The last Patriots player to score a TD against Seattle was Aaron Hernandez.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:49 pm

mikeygnfl wrote:The last Patriots player to score a TD against Seattle was Aaron Hernandez.

Pretty sure he is the last Pats player to score a TD in a Super Bowl too

by 1GrumpyGolfer Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:54 pm

Breadvan wrote:Sorry to drag this back to the deflate thing but a few things I don't get.
The officials touch the ball before every snap. Why didn't they notice anything?
Only deflated in the first half, when it was relatively close, so NE blew Indy away with fully inflated balls in the second.

Personally, I think the Patriots should bung a testicular cancer charity a few million bucks and say it was a marketing campaign to get you to check your balls.

P.S. Sorry for dragging this up again.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:07 pm

Belichick is wearing a hoodie and flip flops to media day. Style icon

by sodhat Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:18 am

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-super-bowl-media-sessions/0ap3000000464167/I-m-just-here-so-I-won-t-get-fined

Makes Ol' Billy look positively forthcoming.

by GSC Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:08 am

Belichick answers the questions, he just gives little away.

Chips the same.

Lynch is just kinda a douche. He either does it for attention, or hes really stupid.

by sodhat Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:21 am

Why can't it be both?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:27 pm

Belichick will answer the good questions, but if you ask him stupid ones or simple yes or no ones he'll either reply yes or no or just give you a generic response

He basically froths at the mouth if you ask him some historical Poopie question

by Guest Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:36 pm

sodhat wrote:http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-super-bowl-media-sessions/0ap3000000464167/I-m-just-here-so-I-won-t-get-fined

Makes Ol' Billy look positively forthcoming.

Unlucky for lynch it still looks likes gonna be fined after wearing a hat with an unapproved brand for the league

Rookie error

by mikeygnfl Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:55 pm

Golden Tate talking on Talksport. Seems very down-to-earth. I think he's on Soccer Am tomorrow morning as well.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:12 pm

If you haven't seen Lil Mayo at media day you're seriously missing out

Amazing that a four year old girl is probably better at asking questions than half the reporters there

by mikeygnfl Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:12 pm

Just looking at the odds for the Super Bowl and the bookies are not giving anything away with both the Seahawks and the Patriots being odds on at 10/11.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:26 pm

"@Patriots: Patriots Injury Report Update: Bryan Stork has been upgraded to "probable" for tomorrow's game. #SB49"

This is good news. The less Josh Kline the better obvs

by mikeygnfl Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:42 pm

Here's the highlights from the NFL awards on Saturday:-

Most Valuable Player: Aaron Rodgers, QB, Green Bay Packers

Offensive Player of the Year: DeMarco Murray, RB, Dallas Cowboys

Defensive Player of the Year: J.J. Watt, DE, Houston Texans

Offensive Rookie of the Year: Odell Beckham Jr., WR, New York Giants

Defensive Rookie of the Year: Aaron Donald, DT, St. Louis Rams

Comeback Player of the Year: Rob Gronkowski, TE, New England Patriots

Coach of the Year: Bruce Arians, Arizona CardinalsAssistant Coach of the Year: Todd Bowles, Arizona Cardinals

Play of the Year: Odell Beckham Jr.'s amazing one-handed 43-yard touchdown catch

» Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2015: Junior Seau, LB; Tim Brown, WR; Jerome Bettis, RB; Charles Haley, DE/LB; Will Shields, G; Bill Polian, contributor; Ron Wolf, contributor; Mick Tingelhoff, C

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:06 pm

What do people think a win/loss does for Brady's "legacy"?

I don't think it'll particularly change it either way, he's top 5 all time whether he wins or loses. If he wins still not ahead of Montana imo but if he loses he's still made 6 super bowls, more playoff wins than any other etc

by GSC Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:18 pm

3 SB losses, 0 wins since he became the focal point of the team?

Hard to make the case for best ever

by GSC Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:19 pm

Also Tim Brown over Marvin Harrison is a ****ing joke.

Bettis also.

by Lowlandbrit Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:47 pm

Reportedly Tony Dungy voted for Bobby Wagner for MVP Erm

by crazy_dave23 Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:01 pm

GSC wrote:Also Tim Brown over Marvin Harrison is a ****ing joke.

Bettis also.

Agree with the top one. It's just a pity vote because he has been stuck on the short list so long... the point of a HoF is that some really good players won't make it, it defeats the point if pretty much all those nominated as a finalist in offensive skill positions eventually get in.

Regarding Bettis... I'm biased, I have a picture of me, him and a Superbowl ring... I can now add that he is a Hall of Fame'r to the story Whistle

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:05 pm

Lowlandbrit wrote:Reportedly Tony Dungy voted for Bobby Wagner for MVP

Amazing. Actually amazing

by GSC Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:26 pm

Tony Dungy favoring the black player isn't exactly headline news

by twelve283 Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:15 pm

TM Moot wrote:Seeing the season is now all but done, can anyone give me a heads up on this years draft class?

I'm not up to speed on College football, so who's to look out for and who's going be first pick?

Didn't watch much college football or tape the games this year which is why I haven't done a draft prospect thread. Just didn't have the time to watch as many games as I would need to.

JDizzle wrote:The other option is Leonard Williams, who probably is the best player in the draft.

Like Williams, he's slow off the LOS but that's one of the few negatives about his game.

West Virginia WR Kevin White is one to watch.

Not sold on Randy Gregory just yet, need to watch more.

Cameron Erving is easy to like as a prospect who can play across the OL.

Todd Gurley and Melvin Gordon at RB. I prefer Gurley right now, prefer a bigger RB in the pro game.

by mikeygnfl Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:28 pm

The Patriots and Seahawks are 8-8 in head-to-heads although they have only meet three times since 1993. The Patriots lead 2-1 in games since the expansion in 2002 but the Seahawks lead 7-2 in their last 10 meetings.

Tom Brady is 1-1 against the Seahawks with 3 TDs, 3 INTs and a passer rating of 81.0. Russell Wislon is 1-0 against the Patriots with 3 TDs, no INTs and a passer rating of 133.7.

The Seahawks won the last meeting between the two teams 24-23 in Seattle in 2012. The TD scores for the Patriots that day were Wes Welker and Aaron Hernandez.

Tom Brady will be setting the record for the most Super Bowl appearances with six and will be looking to join Terry Bradshaw and Joe Montana with four wins. The Seahawks are looking to become the first team to win back-to-back Super Bowls since the Patriots did that in 2004.

The Kansas City Chiefs beat both teams this season. They beat the Patriots 41-14 and the Seahawks 24-20.

The Seahawks and Patriots had the 9th and 11th best offences respectively. The Seahawks were 1st in rushing and 27th in passing. The Patriots were 9th in passing and 18th in rushing.

The Seahawks lead the league again in defence. They had the best passing defence and third best rushing defence. The Patriots were 13th in total defence, 9th in rushing and 17th in passing.

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