Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread V

by GSC Sun 14 Dec 2014, 7:24 pm

First topic message reminder :

Manziel is learning school yard football doesn't cut it in the NFL.

Until he learns the basics this will continue

by Number-25 Mon 09 Mar 2015, 11:27 pm

Olly wrote:I can see your point but it's like three days - teams blatently abuse it anyways

Number-25 - Pats are reportedly in for Roy Helu Jr to replace Vereen - he any good?

Yeah, Helu can play and I'd like to see him back in Washington. We've used him as a 3rd down back and he's dangerous as a receiver out of the backfield. Durability was an issue early in his career - he missed almost all of his second season with a sore toe and the coaches were very frustrated with him. Since then though, he's been largely fine in that regard. He's had some big games for us. I've always felt he was a bit under-utilised by the Redskins but a big bit of that has been the presence of Alfred Morris.

I think with Brady lobbing him passes out of the backfield, he could be good for you. He averaged 11.4 yards per catch last season apparently.... not too shabby.

by Number-25 Tue 10 Mar 2015, 8:50 am

Looks like Frank Gore might be headed somewhere else. Indianapolis in play now it seems.

This player personnel thing isn't as easy looks Chip, is it???

by GSC Tue 10 Mar 2015, 9:36 am

Chip cant win when he signs Frank Gore, he cant win when Frank Gore goes elsewhere then?

by Number-25 Tue 10 Mar 2015, 4:41 pm

I think it'll be a good thing for Philly if they miss out on Gore. RBs don't get better as they age he's been around for 10 years. He definitely took a step back last year. If they just want a one cut North-South runner then they should just go draft one. Should be able to find one later in the draft for a fraction of what Gore will cost.

For a Skins fan it's just funny to see Chip miss out. We don't get much chance to laugh at anyone else these days given how bad we are.

by GSC Tue 10 Mar 2015, 7:44 pm

Jimmy Graham.is being traded to Seattle

by NYJ Tue 10 Mar 2015, 7:54 pm

That's mental. Russell Wilson is creaming himself right now.

by GSC Tue 10 Mar 2015, 8:08 pm

Ngata to the Lions

Foles and Bradford swapped.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 10 Mar 2015, 8:12 pm

Why would you ever trade for Sam Bradford ffs

by mikeygnfl Tue 10 Mar 2015, 8:20 pm

GSC wrote:Ngata to the Lions

Foles and Bradford swapped.

The NFL really has taken off with trades this offseason. So the Eagles now have Sam Bradford and Mark Sanchez going into the next season. As with Kiko Alonso alot of this trade will depend on how well he comes back from his injury.

The Saints getting rid of Jimmy Graham is not that much of a shock considering their salary cap. Big move for the Seahawks. If they can add a decent receiver they will be strong favourites for another Super Bowl. As the Seahawks get stronger, the 49ers seems to be knocking the drawing board down.

by mikeygnfl Tue 10 Mar 2015, 8:21 pm

Number-25 wrote:Looks like Frank Gore might be headed somewhere else. Indianapolis in play now it seems.

This player personnel thing isn't as easy looks Chip, is it???

Andre Johnson could be joining Gore in Indianapolis.

by adams_legend Tue 10 Mar 2015, 8:23 pm

If we can get rid of Bradford will be very happy

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 10 Mar 2015, 8:28 pm

OH BAH GAWD JAKE LOCKER HAS RETIRED

by mikeygnfl Tue 10 Mar 2015, 8:31 pm

The Saints have traded Graham and a 4th round pick for the Seahawks 1st round pick and centre Max Unger.

by mikeygnfl Tue 10 Mar 2015, 8:31 pm

I don't remember the NFL being this active during the offseason for a few years.

by mikeygnfl Tue 10 Mar 2015, 8:45 pm

Torrey Smith has joined the 49ers for $40m on a 5 year deal with $22m guaranteed. Owen Daniels has joined the Broncos.

by GSC Tue 10 Mar 2015, 8:46 pm

He has one route

by mikeygnfl Tue 10 Mar 2015, 8:56 pm

The Saints could be looking to trade Drew Brees too.

by NYJ Tue 10 Mar 2015, 8:58 pm

The Saints have less than no money but have signed Ingram and Unger in the last 2 days.

by GSC Tue 10 Mar 2015, 9:09 pm

We moved up to 10 for Nick Foles? Sweet

by mikeygnfl Tue 10 Mar 2015, 9:11 pm

The Foles, Bradford trade could involve them swapping 1st round picks too. So the Eagles get the #10 pick and could be looking at Mariota.

by GSC Tue 10 Mar 2015, 9:12 pm

DeMarco Murray and the Eagles may just be the nuclear option

by mikeygnfl Tue 10 Mar 2015, 9:16 pm

Now there's rumours that the Eagles could be in for DeMarco Murray. The Chiefs are expected to be releasing Dwayne Bowe.

by mikeygnfl Tue 10 Mar 2015, 9:29 pm

The Rams are now reportedly saying that the Foles, Bradford trade doesn't involve 1st round picks. Jerome Felton joins the Bills. A good move. He was a key part of Adrian Peterson's record season and can only be a plus for McCoy.

by Barney92 Tue 10 Mar 2015, 9:57 pm

Well this has been a surprising few hours. Any chance Chip is going to try and trade Bradford now as well? Really go after Mariota.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 10 Mar 2015, 10:04 pm

La Canfora reporting Revis reps saying they have $48m for three years with $40m guaranteed on the table. Yeah the Jets blew us out the water lol

by NYJ Tue 10 Mar 2015, 10:06 pm

Good.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 10 Mar 2015, 10:13 pm

That's pretty staggering money

by Number-25 Tue 10 Mar 2015, 10:21 pm

The Jimmy Graham trade.... Wow! Who saw that coming??

Bradford for Foles... Will be fun watching how all that pans out. Chip is a player, that's for sure. Looking forward to seeing what he does next. Murray would make a lot of sense for them so long as they don't get too desperate and pay too much. Would make their games against Dallas fun to watch next season.

San Fran have seriously overpaid Torrey Smith.

by GSC Tue 10 Mar 2015, 10:30 pm

The Bradford trade is essentially converting salary cap in draft picks

by Lowlandbrit Tue 10 Mar 2015, 10:37 pm

Crazy, crazy day. Didn't the Saints just pay Graham last year, how does that move make sense from a cap perspective?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 10 Mar 2015, 10:49 pm

"@AroundTheNFL: Trade terms: Eagles get Bradford, and 2015 5th round. Rams get Foles, 4th in ’15, 2nd in 2016."

Eagles got robbed

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 10 Mar 2015, 10:52 pm

Olly wrote:"@AroundTheNFL: Trade terms: Eagles get Bradford, and 2015 5th round. Rams get Foles, 4th in ’15, 2nd in 2016."

Eagles got robbed

2nd rounder only goes if Bradford is the starter in 2016.

So basically that pick isn't going anywhere

by mikeygnfl Tue 10 Mar 2015, 10:54 pm

If Bradford doesn't start eight games the Eagles get a 4th back. If he is re-injured they get a 3rd.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 11 Mar 2015, 7:13 am

Well pretty bummer news about Revis - but no way we would've ever given him that deal (if you look at the photos seems like it was done early morning - all the buzz must've been his agent trying to eek out more pennies).

No better player of the system than Darrelle Revis. Got the ring he wanted, and the monster contract from NYJ he's always wanted. Fairplay to the dude

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 11 Mar 2015, 1:20 pm

Pats fans flipping out about this whole thing - you'd have thought they'd have got used to this sort of thing by now.

We'll still end up in the playoffs, and we'll still win the AFC East

by mikeygnfl Wed 11 Mar 2015, 2:17 pm

The Eagles are hosting Ryan Mathews. After trading for Kiko Alonso and Sam Bradford is there any injured players Chip Kelly won't trade for?

by Number-25 Wed 11 Mar 2015, 2:17 pm

Olly wrote:We'll still end up in the playoffs, and we'll still win the AFC East

Right lads, bookmark this quote and let's revisit in December!

by Number-25 Wed 11 Mar 2015, 2:19 pm

mikeygnfl wrote:The Eagles are hosting Ryan Mathews. After trading for Kiko Alonso and Sam Bradford is there any injured players Chip Kelly won't trade for?

I've just read that he's trying to talk Jake Locker out of his retirement plans...

by Number-25 Wed 11 Mar 2015, 2:21 pm

Ach, Roy Helu is off to Oakland. I'd have liked to have seen him stick around in Washington. Not exactly a vital piece but still a very useful one nonetheless.

by Guest Wed 11 Mar 2015, 3:38 pm

I like some of the moves weve (oakland) made

We might not have grabbed the headlines with the marquee signing but we're making some improvements

by GSC Wed 11 Mar 2015, 4:09 pm

Sports Science!

That said Maclin just came off his 2nd torn ACL. Its no longer the career ender it used to be with modern science

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 11 Mar 2015, 4:13 pm

Number-25 wrote:
Olly wrote:We'll still end up in the playoffs, and we'll still win the AFC East

Right lads, bookmark this quote and let's revisit in December!

The Brady injury in week 2 gonna haunt me Sad

by GSC Wed 11 Mar 2015, 4:17 pm

Number-25 wrote:
Olly wrote:We'll still end up in the playoffs, and we'll still win the AFC East

Right lads, bookmark this quote and let's revisit in December!

Lettuce be reality.

The Jets are awful, the Dolphins are irrelevant and the Bills just hired Rex Ryan. I'll take Tom Brady and Bill Belichick.

by crazy_dave23 Wed 11 Mar 2015, 6:29 pm

mikeygnfl wrote:The Eagles are hosting Ryan Mathews. After trading for Kiko Alonso and Sam Bradford is there any injured players Chip Kelly won't trade for?

Its now a done deal.

Free Agency has really been intriguing this year

by twelve283 Wed 11 Mar 2015, 8:39 pm

Olly wrote:Well pretty bummer news about Revis - but no way we would've ever given him that deal (if you look at the photos seems like it was done early morning - all the buzz must've been his agent trying to eek out more pennies).

The $/year is about what I expected but we couldn't/didn't want to compete with that plus $40M gtd.

Plus side of Revis going to the Jets is we have some cap space to work with now.

We've shown interest in Terrance Knighton and Nick Fairley. Ian Rapoport reported that Wilfork would be open to returning. Talk of Jabaal Sheard as well.

by NYJ Wed 11 Mar 2015, 9:09 pm

Compare the Pats and Jets secondary last season and this season. Pats. :lol:

by GSC Wed 11 Mar 2015, 9:25 pm

Thought Revis would head back to New York. Nobody has played the system better than Revis, he got his ring and his money. Watching him lift the Lombardi in a Pats uniform had to sting for Woody

by JDizzle Wed 11 Mar 2015, 10:00 pm

NYJ wrote:Compare the Pats and Jets secondary last season and this season. Pats. :lol:

'This season'. It's March! I can't see there being anyway the Pats starting corners come Week 1 are Arrington, Butler, Ryan!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 11 Mar 2015, 10:21 pm

JDizzle wrote:
NYJ wrote:Compare the Pats and Jets secondary last season and this season. Pats. :lol:

'This season'. It's March! I can't see there being anyway the Pats starting corners come Week 1 are Arrington, Butler, Ryan!

I can't imagine it being much different tbf JDizzle - not a lot out there and Belichick won't just get someone for the sake of it. I mean heck we were one dropped catch away from winning the Super Bowl with Sterling Moore and Julian Edelman playing DB!

by Number-25 Thu 12 Mar 2015, 12:45 am

What sort of money is that Kansas City have paid Maclin?? No wonder Kelly let him walk if that was what they were competing against. I like Maclin and think he's good but $11m a year?? Seriously??

Pats were right to let Revis walk too. You wonder how serious they were about ever wanting him back knowing how much it would cost - prob made the appearance of retaining interest just to drive up how much NY would have to ultimately pay.

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