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by FIFA Diva Wed 04 Feb 2015, 11:29 am

Holymiky wrote:You can't exactly say that we don't believe in our sides, I wouldn't say that to you because I know as a fan that you do believe, as do I.

I don't think Marky is a closet Chelsea fan he's just neutralising the situation.

I already said that Im pretty sure that I corrected myself when we spoke about it a while ago that I said April could be possible. I do wonder how you would be if Man Utd was the focus of the conversation.

Maybe I am slightly over the top with saying you don't believe in your sides but you don't have the confidence backing them though that's definite.

Marky is a Chelsea fan it's clear to see he loves them, his brother in law is a Chelsea fan maybe that's rubbed off him.

If United were up for discussion and I said we'd win the title in Feb or April I'd have been called a arrogant United fan. 5 points is nothing and Chelsea haven't shown that they'll extend the lead to a point where the league is won.

by FIFA Diva Wed 04 Feb 2015, 11:36 am

Fernando wrote:The problem with Viva is he's a inept version of Ent.

He's uses blind faith more then logic for his argues hence why he comes out with crap about Fletcher being a decent player when he's past it.

Darren Fletcher is past it to play for a club like United but he is more then good enough to play for a smaller side like West Brom or West Ham hence both sides being linked to him and one signing him.

If you want to talk about finished players let's talk about Diaby or Wilshere. I wouldn't even say they're finished because their career never got started. Hurts you gooners when someone talks about Wilshere but it's the truth.

Because you're all getting hurt and can't take the truth I won't mention it anymore. I talk facts Nando, what do you want to talk about? If I say United will finish above Arsenal you'll call me a wum or its blind faith. Arsenal are no super power houses you never were, Arsenal don't scare me. #InWengerWeTrust

by Holymiky Wed 04 Feb 2015, 11:37 am

I'm clearly confident in my side if I say that we COULD win the title by April. Would you prefer me to say without a doubt we will win the title by April? I don't think you would because then you would say oh that's really arrogant. I seem to remember when I originally said we could win it by February like right at the start of the season before I changed it to April, you said something like - "and people think Man Utd fans are arrogant" all I know is the ones that I have spoke to are a lot quieter in terms of banter now that they aren't in Europe etc.

by **Afro** Wed 04 Feb 2015, 11:55 am

I think the key here is Miky never said Chelsea would win the title by February or April. He says they could. Which is true. So could City.

You are confusing expectation, belief and faith. He has every faith in his team and thinks they could, but won't bet because he doesn't expect it. Saying they will is arrogant, saying they could is not

by **Afro** Wed 04 Feb 2015, 11:55 am

Oh, and thanks for results Marky Ok!

Well played Nando clap

by FIFA Diva Wed 04 Feb 2015, 11:56 am

United can win the league this season.

by Holymiky Wed 04 Feb 2015, 11:58 am

Mathematically they can yeah sure but personally I would say they won't.

by **Afro** Wed 04 Feb 2015, 11:58 am

United definitely could win the league this season. Do I think they will, no because I don't think they are good enough to overturn a 10 point deficit on Chelsea and a 5 point deficit on City.

But it could happen.

by FIFA Diva Wed 04 Feb 2015, 12:02 pm

I personally think it'll be City who win the title, Chelsea are not good enough to win the title this season.

by **Afro** Wed 04 Feb 2015, 12:02 pm

If I had to bet on it, I'd say the top 4 will be

Chelsea
City
Arsenal
Man Utd

and I think that would be a fair reflection on how good the teams are this season.

by FIFA Diva Wed 04 Feb 2015, 12:22 pm

Arsenal won't have the bottle to finish above us, remember you're not facing Aston Villa or Spurs for 4th you're facing United. An just like previous years when they bottled the league they'll bottle 3rd place.

by Holymiky Wed 04 Feb 2015, 12:40 pm

I think you are under estimating Arsenal. They have finished in the top 4 consistently so I would put my confidence in them to possibly do it again and even get the third place.

by **Afro** Wed 04 Feb 2015, 12:41 pm

I still think Chelsea are the strongest in the league and are better than City.

I also don't agree on Arsenal. I think this Arsenal team is better and more proven than United. A decent number of this current United team are unproven on run ins at the top of the table. I think United's bottle is more in question than Arsenal's in my mind.

by **Hero** Wed 04 Feb 2015, 12:47 pm

Back in England Smile

by Trebs Wed 04 Feb 2015, 12:50 pm

Alright lads.

I wonder whether Marky was worried about being six points adrift of the table so didn't give any wins out? Whistle

by Trebs Wed 04 Feb 2015, 1:05 pm

Joking aside, good game Miky. You have some potential to build a good side, it just needs a few more deals to be done.

by Holymiky Wed 04 Feb 2015, 1:06 pm

Thanks mate good game to you too.

by **Hero** Wed 04 Feb 2015, 1:07 pm

Noah's got his trial with Bury u9s starting Monday Smile

by Holymiky Wed 04 Feb 2015, 1:08 pm

Nice, good luck to him.

by Marky Wed 04 Feb 2015, 1:10 pm

Trebs wrote:Alright lads.

I wonder whether Marky was worried about being six points adrift of the table so didn't give any wins out?

I pretty much guaranteed I'd be bottom by giving out all those draws!

To be honest, only obvious draw was PAOK v Bordeaux. Bremen had a better defence and midfield, it was your attackers that earned you a draw, and Granada should have beaten Basel but played players out of position in his new system so I wasn't a fan.

by **Hero** Wed 04 Feb 2015, 1:40 pm

Anyone wish to purchase Subo/Calhanoglu/Diao off me at TM price?

by Holymiky Wed 04 Feb 2015, 1:44 pm

I probably would if I had the money mate.

by **Afro** Wed 04 Feb 2015, 1:47 pm

DItto

by **Afro** Wed 04 Feb 2015, 1:48 pm

Listening to cash offers for Ogbonna or Stones as well.

by Holymiky Wed 04 Feb 2015, 1:50 pm

I'm in need of 2 wingers but don't really have that much money at the moment.

by Marky Wed 04 Feb 2015, 1:50 pm

I could raise £13.5m, that enough for Subotic?

by Fernando Wed 04 Feb 2015, 1:51 pm

Koba wrote:
Fernando wrote:The problem with Viva is he's a inept version of Ent.

He's uses blind faith more then logic for his argues hence why he comes out with crap about Fletcher being a decent player when he's past it.

Darren Fletcher is past it to play for a club like United but he is more then good enough to play for a smaller side like West Brom or West Ham hence both sides being linked to him and one signing him. < He really isn't, He's just a worse Scott Parker now run & kick except he can barely run

If you want to talk about finished players let's talk about Diaby or Wilshere. I wouldn't even say they're finished because their career never got started. Hurts you gooners when someone talks about Wilshere but it's the truth. < Diaby has been done for the last 5 years & honestly i don't see where Jack gets in the side anymore but if he keeps getting injured we won't have too.

Because you're all getting hurt and can't take the truth I won't mention it anymore. I talk facts Nando, what do you want to talk about? If I say United will finish above Arsenal you'll call me a wum or its blind faith. Arsenal are no super power houses you never were, Arsenal don't scare me. #InWengerWeTrust < We can talk facts if you want you've spent 100m+ in the last 13 months... and still can't fight for the title, You have to wonder weather it's management or just the players aren't good enough anymore. RVP has reverted into his injury prone self, Di Maria hasn't done anything since October & Rooney looked a better player under Moyes then he does now.

#Awkward

by Holymiky Wed 04 Feb 2015, 1:52 pm

Does that include the possible sale of Bakkali to me Marky? Whistle

by Azzy Wed 04 Feb 2015, 1:54 pm

1. Schmeichel-Parker-Irwin-Pallister-Bruce-Giggs-Kanchelskis-Robson-Ince-Cantona-Hughes

2. Schmeichel-Neville-Irwin-Bruce-Pallister-Giggs-Keane-Butt-Beckham-Cantona-Cole

3. Schmeichel-Neville-Neville-Stam-Johnsen-Giggs-Butt-Beckham-Keane-Yorke-Cole - with plenty of players playing more than 20 games (Blomqvist, Sheringham, Solskjaer etc)

4. Barthez-Brown-Blanc-Ferdinand-Silvestre-Keane/Scholes-Giggs-Beckham-Veron-RVN-Solskjaer

5. EVS-Evra-Neville-Ferdinand-Vidic-Giggs-Ronaldo-Carrick-Scholes-Rooney-Saha

And I barely scratched the surface.

by Marky Wed 04 Feb 2015, 1:58 pm

Holymiky wrote:Does that include the possible sale of Bakkali to me Marky?

It didn't, but don't rule anything out.

by FIFA Diva Wed 04 Feb 2015, 2:14 pm

Fernando wrote:
Koba wrote:
Fernando wrote:The problem with Viva is he's a inept version of Ent.

He's uses blind faith more then logic for his argues hence why he comes out with crap about Fletcher being a decent player when he's past it.

Darren Fletcher is past it to play for a club like United but he is more then good enough to play for a smaller side like West Brom or West Ham hence both sides being linked to him and one signing him. < He really isn't, He's just a worse Scott Parker now run & kick except he can barely run

If you want to talk about finished players let's talk about Diaby or Wilshere. I wouldn't even say they're finished because their career never got started. Hurts you gooners when someone talks about Wilshere but it's the truth. < Diaby has been done for the last 5 years & honestly i don't see where Jack gets in the side anymore but if he keeps getting injured we won't have too.

Because you're all getting hurt and can't take the truth I won't mention it anymore. I talk facts Nando, what do you want to talk about? If I say United will finish above Arsenal you'll call me a wum or its blind faith. Arsenal are no super power houses you never were, Arsenal don't scare me. #InWengerWeTrust < We can talk facts if you want you've spent 100m+ in the last 13 months... and still can't fight for the title, You have to wonder weather it's management or just the players aren't good enough anymore. RVP has reverted into his injury prone self, Di Maria hasn't done anything since October & Rooney looked a better player under Moyes then he does now.

#Awkward

You say that but we're ahead of you. Sanchez has carried this pathetic Arsenal side since August.

Same old Arsenal show some promise and then revert back to the truth gutless Arsenal we've known for over 10 years.

by Fernando Wed 04 Feb 2015, 2:16 pm

Koba wrote:
Fernando wrote:
Koba wrote:
Fernando wrote:The problem with Viva is he's a inept version of Ent.

He's uses blind faith more then logic for his argues hence why he comes out with crap about Fletcher being a decent player when he's past it.

Darren Fletcher is past it to play for a club like United but he is more then good enough to play for a smaller side like West Brom or West Ham hence both sides being linked to him and one signing him. < He really isn't, He's just a worse Scott Parker now run & kick except he can barely run

If you want to talk about finished players let's talk about Diaby or Wilshere. I wouldn't even say they're finished because their career never got started. Hurts you gooners when someone talks about Wilshere but it's the truth. < Diaby has been done for the last 5 years & honestly i don't see where Jack gets in the side anymore but if he keeps getting injured we won't have too.

Because you're all getting hurt and can't take the truth I won't mention it anymore. I talk facts Nando, what do you want to talk about? If I say United will finish above Arsenal you'll call me a wum or its blind faith. Arsenal are no super power houses you never were, Arsenal don't scare me. #InWengerWeTrust < We can talk facts if you want you've spent 100m+ in the last 13 months... and still can't fight for the title, You have to wonder weather it's management or just the players aren't good enough anymore. RVP has reverted into his injury prone self, Di Maria hasn't done anything since October & Rooney looked a better player under Moyes then he does now.

#Awkward

You say that but we're ahead of you. Sanchez has carried this pathetic Arsenal side since August.

Same old Arsenal show some promise and then revert back to the truth gutless Arsenal we've known for over 10 years.

Need to check your facts...

Arsenal have the most goalscorers this season so hardly a 1 man team like United angel

So now you're just wumming or just stupid Whistle

by Marky Wed 04 Feb 2015, 2:18 pm

One day, a team will have their best player win them a game and they WON'T be called a one man team by bitter supporters.

A man can dream...

by FIFA Diva Wed 04 Feb 2015, 2:23 pm

Facts schmacts if you bothered watching your side you'd see that you are a one man team. You rely on Sanchez more than any other team rely on one player.

You can say what you like but you'll be finishing 4th behind United at best.

by Azzy Wed 04 Feb 2015, 2:31 pm

Marky wrote:One day, a team will have their best player win them a game and they WON'T be called a one man team by bitter supporters.

A man can dream...

Chelsea aren't a one-man team. Nor are United. Nor are City. But Arsenal - through Sanchez - and Liverpool, through Sturridge, are. If both those teams can add players of similar quality to their squads, they'd lose that tag. Funny how last season Arsenal weren't a one-man team (no Sanchez) and neither were Liverpool (had Suarez as well). Shows the gulf in class between those three sides and the pretenders.

by Fernando Wed 04 Feb 2015, 2:32 pm

You mean like how United rely on Rooney? Whistle

I do like the way viva think he's trolling yet all he is doing is making himself look stupider every time he opens his mouth...Which isn't a surprise considering he's the biggest bottler since United lost an 11pt lead in '98

by Azzy Wed 04 Feb 2015, 2:34 pm

Arsenal had three games in hand Nando, so in reality it was two points. And let's face it, any side getting goals from Christopher Wreh deserves to win the title.

by Fernando Wed 04 Feb 2015, 2:37 pm

Christopher Wreh is legendary as will Yaya Sanogo be Whistle

by Marky Wed 04 Feb 2015, 2:39 pm

TheSecondComing wrote:Arsenal had three games in hand Nando, so in reality it was two points.

Too many people ruining arguments with facts. I wont have it.

by Holymiky Wed 04 Feb 2015, 2:40 pm

Lol would you prefer that we just made stuff up Marky? I guess it could be more entertaining.

by Marky Wed 04 Feb 2015, 2:41 pm

Holymiky wrote:Lol would you prefer that we just made stuff up Marky? I guess it would be more entertaining.

It works for Viva king

by Fernando Wed 04 Feb 2015, 2:43 pm

West Brom are a worse side then Wolves

#VivaLogic

by FIFA Diva Wed 04 Feb 2015, 2:53 pm

Fernando wrote:You mean like how United rely on Rooney?

I do like the way viva think he's trolling yet all he is doing is making himself look stupider every time he opens his mouth...Which isn't a surprise considering he's the biggest bottler since United lost an 11pt lead in '98

Rooney is Uniteds best player so of course we're going to rely on him.

Just because you've had different goal scorers doesn't mean that you're not a 1 man team. You rely ON Sanchez more than any other team rely on a single player.

by GSC Wed 04 Feb 2015, 3:01 pm

Sanchez is Arsenals best player, of course they rely on him

by Fernando Wed 04 Feb 2015, 3:04 pm

Koba wrote:
Fernando wrote:You mean like how United rely on Rooney?

I do like the way viva think he's trolling yet all he is doing is making himself look stupider every time he opens his mouth...Which isn't a surprise considering he's the biggest bottler since United lost an 11pt lead in '98

Rooney is Uniteds best player so of course we're going to rely on him.

Just because you've had different goal scorers doesn't mean that you're not a 1 man team. You rely ON Sanchez more than any other team rely on a single player.

Times Alexis Has Scored/Assisted The Winner 6 Games out of 23 games
Sunderland 2-0
Burnley 3-0
Southampton 1-0
Newcastle 4-1
QPR 2-1
Stoke 3-0

It's less games then most would expect angel

by FIFA Diva Wed 04 Feb 2015, 3:10 pm

GSC wrote:Sanchez is Arsenals best player, of course they rely on him

Exactly that's what I said. Rooney is our best player and we rely on him. Nando gets angry when I said it lol.

by Azzy Wed 04 Feb 2015, 3:10 pm

26% of the time then. 11 players in the team, 10 outfield, so if all was fair, he'd be in on 10% of goals. He essentially makes up for one and a half players.

Not to mention all those games where he's scored first and Arsenal's defence has whoopsied, leading to a Giroud or someone else scoring the winner.

by FIFA Diva Wed 04 Feb 2015, 3:14 pm

Fernando wrote:
Koba wrote:
Fernando wrote:You mean like how United rely on Rooney?

I do like the way viva think he's trolling yet all he is doing is making himself look stupider every time he opens his mouth...Which isn't a surprise considering he's the biggest bottler since United lost an 11pt lead in '98

Rooney is Uniteds best player so of course we're going to rely on him.

Just because you've had different goal scorers doesn't mean that you're not a 1 man team. You rely ON Sanchez more than any other team rely on a single player.

Times Alexis Has Scored/Assisted The Winner 6 Games out of 23 games
Sunderland 2-0
Burnley 3-0
Southampton 1-0
Newcastle 4-1
QPR 2-1
Stoke 3-0

It's less games then most would expect

Goals and assists are not the only way to work it out. If you watch Arsenal you'd see that he is your main man who you rely on massively. It's not always the winning goal that settles a game. The goal that doubles your advantage is also very important. Fact is you are a one man team and I don't understand why you're getting so defensive about it. I'm not wumminng you at all.

I'll leave it at that. Arsenal are Poopie and everyone knows it we've been so Poopie but we're still above you. I can't wait come May because we'll finish above you and you'll come out with some other excuse.

by Fernando Wed 04 Feb 2015, 3:17 pm

All teams rely on their best player you do it with Rooney, We do it with Sanchez, Citeh do it with Aguero.

Im not angry at all. If i was angry id just ban you Laugh

by GSC Wed 04 Feb 2015, 3:24 pm

TheSecondComing wrote:26% of the time then. 11 players in the team, 10 outfield, so if all was fair, he'd be in on 10% of goals. He essentially makes up for one and a half players.

Not to mention all those games where he's scored first and Arsenal's defence has whoopsied, leading to a Giroud or someone else scoring the winner.

You also have to account for opportunity to score those. An attacker will be more likely to score in general

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