Scarlets v Munster

Only 14 players missing for the Scarlets this weekend.


Scarlets Munster
15. Jordan Williams 15. Felix Jones
14. Harry Robinson 14. Andrew Conway
13. Regan King 13. Keith Earls
12. Hadleigh Parkes 12. Denis Hurley (capt)
11. Michael Tagicakibau 11. Luke O'Dea
10. Steven Shingler 10. Ian Keatley
9. Aled Davies 9. Duncan Williams
1. Phil John 1. Dave Kilcoyne
2. Ken Owens ( 2. Kevin O'Byrne
3. Peter Edwards 3. Stephen Archer
4. Lewis Rawlins 4. Donncha O'Callaghan
5. Johan Snyman 5. Billy Holland
6. Aaron Shingler 6. Dave O'Callaghan
7. James Davies 7. Tommy O'Donnell
8. John Barclay 8. CJ Stander
Replacements
16. Ryan Elias 16. Eusebio Guinazu
17. Rob Evans 17. John Ryan
18. Jacobie Adriaanse 18. BJ Botha
19. George Earle 19. Jack O'Donoghue
20. Rob McCusker 20. Paddy Butler
21. Gareth Davies 21. Neil Cronin
22. Rhys Priestland 22. JJ Hanrahan
23. Adam Warren 23. Ivan Dineen

How many Munster missing, looks like all the Scarlets bar Lian and Scott have been released by Wales but Pivac chosen not to start them.

I doubt Lee and Ball would have been permitted to play. Also the Scarlets have a fair few injuries and that can't really be helped can it? Hope there's a decent ref this time, the one in Munster probably give the worst performance of the season - Jackson x 10. Guess we aren't allowed to mention that though being Welsh and everything.

bedfordwelsh wrote:How many Munster missing, looks like all the Scarlets bar Lian and Scott have been released by Wales but Pivac chosen not to start them.

Jake Ball and Samson Lee too?

Rob Evans and Priestland haven't played in ages. Their match fitness must be a concern. Makes sense to give them a half or less.

For this reason, Scott Williams (whenever he does play next) will probably be a shadow of the player he was when he last played the game of rugby union back in mid January. I have no idea what incentive he has for staying in Wales to play rugby when he sees Roberts and Davies released back to play in France this weekend (although don't think Roberts has been selected)

Doh yeah Ball and Lee though doubt Lee would have played this week if had been released. With regards Roberts and Davies, Gatland has to alternative other than to release them but you're right Roberts isn't playing but Charteris, Phillips and JD have all been selected for respective clubs.

The Saint wrote:I doubt Lee and Ball would have been permitted to play. Also the Scarlets have a fair few injuries and that can't really be helped can it? Hope there's a decent ref this time, the one in Munster probably give the worst performance of the season - Jackson x 10. Guess we aren't allowed to mention that though being Welsh and everything.

You've just called wolf far too often so no one takes any notice of you now moaning about refs.

Sin é wrote:

The Saint wrote:I doubt Lee and Ball would have been permitted to play. Also the Scarlets have a fair few injuries and that can't really be helped can it? Hope there's a decent ref this time, the one in Munster probably give the worst performance of the season - Jackson x 10. Guess we aren't allowed to mention that though being Welsh and everything.

You've just called wolf far too often so no one takes any notice of you now moaning about refs.

As far as I can tell EVERYONE has a thing or two to say about referee's. You must have been asleep the past week as there is an abundance of evidence on the international forum. Also, I'm not saying he cost Scarlets the game, Munster won it. I do feel however, that he prevented Scarlets from getting a LBP with his amateur performance. I feel the same about a lot of officiating in the league this year, it's certainly gone down a few notches when it was already bad enough. That's why, for me, the Pro12 this year is the worst I have ever seen.

bedfordwelsh wrote:Doh yeah Ball and Lee though doubt Lee would have played this week if had been released.  With regards Roberts and Davies, Gatland has to alternative other than to release them but you're right Roberts isn't playing but Charteris, Phillips and JD have all been selected for respective clubs.

No concessions for the French based players, never has been. And to think a welsh poster on here a little while back said playing in France was a good thing but needs to be managed more appropriately - what an idiotic statement that was.

There has been good relationships with the French in the past especially when it comes to the 4th AI game, more often than not French based players have been released for those games.

I think if you asked most of the Welsh squad they would actually rather play this weekend anyway, injury is a occupational hazard.

Chunky Norwich wrote:

bedfordwelsh wrote:How many Munster missing, looks like all the Scarlets bar Lian and Scott have been released by Wales but Pivac chosen not to start them.

Jake Ball and Samson Lee too?

Rob Evans and Priestland haven't played in ages. Their match fitness must be a concern. Makes sense to give them a half or less.

For this reason, Scott Williams (whenever he does play next) will probably be a shadow of the player he was when he last played the game of rugby union back in mid January. I have no idea what incentive he has for staying in Wales to play rugby when he sees Roberts and Davies released back to play in France this weekend (although don't think Roberts has been selected)

Missed this earlier. But for me that comment is spot on.

bedfordwelsh wrote:Doh yeah Ball and Lee though doubt Lee would have played this week if had been released.  With regards Roberts and Davies, Gatland has to alternative other than to release them but you're right Roberts isn't playing but Charteris, Phillips and JD have all been selected for respective clubs.

Charteris starts, Phillips de le bench.

http://www.asm-rugby.com/actus/le-groupe-du-racing-face-%C3%A0-clermont

Cardiff Dave wrote:

bedfordwelsh wrote:Doh yeah Ball and Lee though doubt Lee would have played this week if had been released.  With regards Roberts and Davies, Gatland has to alternative other than to release them but you're right Roberts isn't playing but Charteris, Phillips and JD have all been selected for respective clubs.

Charteris starts, Phillips de le bench.

http://www.asm-rugby.com/actus/le-groupe-du-racing-face-%C3%A0-clermont

Dans le bench, surely?!

Griff wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

bedfordwelsh wrote:Doh yeah Ball and Lee though doubt Lee would have played this week if had been released.  With regards Roberts and Davies, Gatland has to alternative other than to release them but you're right Roberts isn't playing but Charteris, Phillips and JD have all been selected for respective clubs.

Charteris starts, Phillips de le bench.

http://www.asm-rugby.com/actus/le-groupe-du-racing-face-%C3%A0-clermont

Dans le bench, surely?!

Pardon my French, mon amis. It's a leetle flaky.

Just asking, but would SW have been released by Gatland if he knew that both Jaw and JD2 wouldn't be playing for their clubs this weekend?

Cardiff Dave wrote:

Griff wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

bedfordwelsh wrote:Doh yeah Ball and Lee though doubt Lee would have played this week if had been released.  With regards Roberts and Davies, Gatland has to alternative other than to release them but you're right Roberts isn't playing but Charteris, Phillips and JD have all been selected for respective clubs.

Charteris starts, Phillips de le bench.

http://www.asm-rugby.com/actus/le-groupe-du-racing-face-%C3%A0-clermont

Dans le bench, surely?!

Pardon my French, mon amis. It's a leetle flaky.

Of the bench, in the bench..sur le bench mes amis...de rien

ME-109 wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

Griff wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

bedfordwelsh wrote:Doh yeah Ball and Lee though doubt Lee would have played this week if had been released.  With regards Roberts and Davies, Gatland has to alternative other than to release them but you're right Roberts isn't playing but Charteris, Phillips and JD have all been selected for respective clubs.

Charteris starts, Phillips de le bench.

http://www.asm-rugby.com/actus/le-groupe-du-racing-face-%C3%A0-clermont

Dans le bench, surely?!

Pardon my French, mon amis. It's a leetle flaky.

Of the bench, in the bench..sur le bench mes amis...de rien

Merde!

I've never such a horrible colour of kit before in my entire life.

Shocking crowd in. Where have the Scarlets fans gone they used to have a decent amount of support?

Imagine your trying to get away with lying on the wrong side of the ruck or coming in from the side in that fluorescent kit. No chance. Everyone in the stadium will see it.

Wow that Muster scrum literally got destroyed

"Donncha O'Callaghan - the British Lion"

That commentary error won't go down well!

Watching welsh rugby teams at home is like watching the biggest whingefest ever...

What the hell is up with the men in green diving head first into rucks?

Idiocy from the Munster 9,

Scarlets were under pressure, not they can clear and attack against 14 men.

Stupid and dangerous

What an absolute idiot thing to do by Williams...

The Saint wrote:What the hell is up with the men in green diving head first into rucks?

Its to get rid of the men in red who are all over the place illegally at the breakdown...

On a positive note, Earls is playing well and running some good lines.

Glorious run and perfect pass from Earls

Nachos Jones wrote:Glorious run and perfect pass from Earls

Great pass but surely he should have backed his pace.

This lad O'Donoghue has been impressive in recent weeks. Looks like a good prospect.

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

Nachos Jones wrote:Glorious run and perfect pass from Earls

Great pass but surely he should have backed his pace.

He looked fairly covered to me. Not sure even if Zebo would have been in from there but what a brilliant pass under pressure. He is having a very good game so far and I hope Schmidt is watching...

Young Jack O'D in again, this boy has bags of talent.

I can't remember a game were a team has dominated possession this much!

Notch wrote:This lad O'Donoghue has been impressive in recent weeks. Looks like a good prospect.

I think Munster should give him to Ulster, he has Stander and Copeland ahead of him down there.

One charge down kick should have been a warning for Keatley, the second leads to a try...

Parkes has been a craking signing for the Scarlets, not a very big name but great player.

Well that penalty does it for Munster. Scarlets wont loose from here.

Why o why did Munster allow JJ to leave and keep Keatley...

Foley should be sacked even for not playing JJ and thus forcing him out of Munster. How can Hurley be starting with JJ on the bench?

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Foley should be sacked even for not playing JJ and thus forcing him out of Munster. How can Hurley be starting with JJ on the bench?

Silly comment its got nothing to do with Hurley or whether he plays or not. JJ is a better OH than Keatley. That is where he should be starting.

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Foley should be sacked even for not playing JJ and thus forcing him out of Munster. How can Hurley be starting with JJ on the bench?

Seriously the biggest mistake from Munster in recent history in allowing JJ to leave.

LeinsterFan4life wrote:I can't remember a game were a team has dominated possession this much!

That's because the ref hasn't allowed a fair contest at the breakdown when in the Scarlets half.

That's why he's winger, allowed JJ a nice stroll in there.

JJ really should have been on earlier, should have replaced Keatley on the 60-65min mark. I have said for the last two seasons, Munster wont win anything with Keatley as first choice. JJ should have been the starting 10 this season.

I agree ME but even with Keatley starting JJ should still be on the pitch somewhere! He's one of the best up and coming backs in the country and should in no way be behind the likes of Hurley who has been ok this season.

If Ospreys beat Glasgow now and Glasgow don't get a bonus point all of the Top 4 sides will be on 48 points and then Leinster will be on 47... too close.

LeinsterFan4life wrote:I agree ME but even with Keatley starting JJ should still be on the pitch somewhere! He's one of the best up and coming backs in the country and should in no way be behind the likes of Hurley who has been ok this season.

That's the thing, I actually feel that JJ should be starting ahead of Keatley myself. Hurley has been a little better than 'OK' this season.

Hurley's been solid him and Smith were shown up a few times in the group stage although maybe that was more down to Smith?

Anyway I agree JJ should have been given the 10 jersey from the start.

Irish league run by Irish officials for the benefit of Irish teams, enough said.

2ndtimeround wrote:Irish league run by Irish officials for the benefit of Irish teams, enough said.

?

Leinster and Munster are competing against each other for a play off spot but of course a ref from Leinster would want Munster to win... Welsh logic.

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Leinster and Munster are competing against each other for a play off spot but of course a ref from Leinster would want Munster to win... Welsh logic.

Is it? I would have said it was Dowlais logic...