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6N Round 4: The Calcutta Cup clash
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ENGLAND v SCOTLAND
Saturday 14 February 2015
KO 17:00 (GMT)
Twickers
Live on BBC1
Referee: Romain Poitey (FFR)
AR1: George Clancy (IRFU)
AR2: Marius Mitrea (FIR)
TMO: Ben Skeen (NZR)
Teams:
ENGLAND
M Brown (Harlequins); A Watson (Bath), J Joseph (Bath), L Burrell (Northampton), J Nowell (Exeter); G Ford (Bath), B Youngs (Leicester); J Marler (Harlequins), D Hartley (Northampton), D Cole (Leicester), D Attwood (Bath), C Lawes (Northampton), J Haskell (Wasps), C Robshaw (Harlequins, capt), B Vunipola (Saracens).
Replacements: T Youngs (Leicester), M Vunipola (Saracens), K Brookes (Newcastle), G Parling (Leicester), T Wood (Northampton), R Wigglesworth (Saracens), D Cipriani (Sale), B Twelvetrees (Gloucester).
SCOTLAND
Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors); Dougie Fife (Edinburgh), Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors), Matt Scott (Edinburgh), Tommy Seymour, Finn Russell (both Glasgow Warriors), Greig Laidlaw (captn) (Gloucester); Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh), Ross Ford (Edinburgh), Euan Murray (Glasgow Warriors), Jim Hamilton (Saracens), Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors), Robert Harley (Glasgow Warriors), Blair Cowan (London Irish) David Denton (Edinburgh).
Replacements: Fraser Brown, Ryan Grant (both Glasgow Warriors), Geoff Cross (London Irish), Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors), Johnnie Beattie (Montpellier), Adam Ashe (Glasgow Warriors), Sam Hidalgo-Clyne and Greig Tonks (both Edinburgh)
The result of the Ireland game beforehand could make things very interesting from an English perspective. Tournament could be blown wide open, & see England looking for a big score with an eye to next weekend & things coming down to points difference.
For us, there's nothing at stake bar pride & some melted Indian Rupees.
Twickenham was always going to be tough, but given how things have gone this tournament I'm absolutely dreading this match.
Our record down South is more embarrassing than Natalie Bennett on LBC! 32 long years since we last won at Twickenham and in the last half century we've managed just one other win in 1971. Stretch things back to the whole century and we can double our total with wins in 1926 & 1938!
Fear we'll see a similar game to England - Italy, valiant start by us & some swashbuckling stuff before ultimately being crushed in the final quarter. Although if we 'defend' the maul like we did against Italy the score will be worse.
On the bright side though, scoring any points would be an improvement on last years Calcutta Cup match...
Preconditions people? Am I being too gloomy?
ENGLAND v SCOTLAND
Saturday 14 February 2015
KO 17:00 (GMT)
Twickers
Live on BBC1
Referee: Romain Poitey (FFR)
AR1: George Clancy (IRFU)
AR2: Marius Mitrea (FIR)
TMO: Ben Skeen (NZR)
Teams:
ENGLAND
M Brown (Harlequins); A Watson (Bath), J Joseph (Bath), L Burrell (Northampton), J Nowell (Exeter); G Ford (Bath), B Youngs (Leicester); J Marler (Harlequins), D Hartley (Northampton), D Cole (Leicester), D Attwood (Bath), C Lawes (Northampton), J Haskell (Wasps), C Robshaw (Harlequins, capt), B Vunipola (Saracens).
Replacements: T Youngs (Leicester), M Vunipola (Saracens), K Brookes (Newcastle), G Parling (Leicester), T Wood (Northampton), R Wigglesworth (Saracens), D Cipriani (Sale), B Twelvetrees (Gloucester).
SCOTLAND
Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors); Dougie Fife (Edinburgh), Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors), Matt Scott (Edinburgh), Tommy Seymour, Finn Russell (both Glasgow Warriors), Greig Laidlaw (captn) (Gloucester); Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh), Ross Ford (Edinburgh), Euan Murray (Glasgow Warriors), Jim Hamilton (Saracens), Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors), Robert Harley (Glasgow Warriors), Blair Cowan (London Irish) David Denton (Edinburgh).
Replacements: Fraser Brown, Ryan Grant (both Glasgow Warriors), Geoff Cross (London Irish), Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors), Johnnie Beattie (Montpellier), Adam Ashe (Glasgow Warriors), Sam Hidalgo-Clyne and Greig Tonks (both Edinburgh)
The result of the Ireland game beforehand could make things very interesting from an English perspective. Tournament could be blown wide open, & see England looking for a big score with an eye to next weekend & things coming down to points difference.
For us, there's nothing at stake bar pride & some melted Indian Rupees.
Twickenham was always going to be tough, but given how things have gone this tournament I'm absolutely dreading this match.
Our record down South is more embarrassing than Natalie Bennett on LBC! 32 long years since we last won at Twickenham and in the last half century we've managed just one other win in 1971. Stretch things back to the whole century and we can double our total with wins in 1926 & 1938!
Fear we'll see a similar game to England - Italy, valiant start by us & some swashbuckling stuff before ultimately being crushed in the final quarter. Although if we 'defend' the maul like we did against Italy the score will be worse.
On the bright side though, scoring any points would be an improvement on last years Calcutta Cup match...
Preconditions people? Am I being too gloomy?
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Hartley started poorly again
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lawes. good to see you back in the team
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also glad to see brown let the ball get turned over rather than concede penalty there.
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Wow, wasteful. Two of the worst try costing blunders I've seen. Lucky for England there will be plenty more.
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Have England heard of the term 'support'?
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What an absolute shambles from Scotland. England thoroughly dominant, should take the scrum again from this penalty.
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GLove39 wrote:Hogg great tackle. At least someone's trying
If the rest of our team put in half the effort and desire that Hogg puts in, we'd be a far better rugby team.
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England are feeding the scrum into the second row Which is allowing them to shove without needing to hook.
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Nowells is playing well...but id like to see him increase that pace just a little.
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TheRugbyMaster wrote:England are feeding the scrum into the second row Which is allowing them to shove without needing to hook.
Agreed, we're not even trying to hide it with the usual slight spin, it's completely crooked.
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On second thoughts Nowell had two men on either side of him...bad play.
Typical of englands backs no awareness of whos around them.
Typical of englands backs no awareness of whos around them.
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It's men against boys. This will get embarrassing.
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That's 2 tries we've butchered
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He seems plenty quick to me, if he stayed on his feet just then we were in!GeordieFalcon wrote:Nowells is playing well...but id like to see him increase that pace just a little.
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You need to feel for Stuart hogg. He's the one we look for to score tries but he's saved us 14 points so far! He's the only one trying
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Arrghhh!!! Ben Youngs why are you such an f-ing dawdler!!!!!
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Christ we're making nowell look like a bloody superstar
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What are Scotland doing with this aimless scattergun kicking?
And why are the pack taking half an hour to get to the breakdown?
Have they all been drinking?
And why are the pack taking half an hour to get to the breakdown?
Have they all been drinking?
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England squandering so many chances, accompanied with so many basic errors.
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There cannot be a team who wastes more chances than us
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Thus far england giving a master class in how to set up opportunities.
Also a master class in how to Love sacks them up.
Also a master class in how to Love sacks them up.
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I don't know what to laugh at most, Scotland for the way they are letting England through nearly every phase, or England for butchering nearly every opportunity... I don't mean to be mean... its just laughable as a "game" of Rugby!
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And that's what happens Scotland - when YOU KEEP THE BALL IN HAND.
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I take that back.. well done Scotland :-)
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Very good try
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See what happens if we don't kick the ball!!!!
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Poor, poor kicking by Scotland. More composure needed all round.....just like that! Well worked....
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And people actually think we have a chance of winning the World Cup.???? That's comical!
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RDSguru wrote:I don't know what to laugh at most, Scotland for the way they are letting England through nearly every phase, or England for butchering nearly every opportunity... I don't mean to be mean... its just laughable as a "game" of Rugby!
Ditto.
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Interesting that dear old auntie has 3 Scottish commentators
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the most undeserved try I've ever seen, but we're not complaining
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GeordieFalcon wrote:And people actually think we have a chance of winning the World Cup.???? That's comical!
The early promise of Lancaster's reign has given way to muddled selection and predictable attacks.
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Oh England, should be 28-7 by now
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Excellent try. That is how you finish.
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Duty281 wrote:GeordieFalcon wrote:And people actually think we have a chance of winning the World Cup.???? That's comical!
The early promise of Lancaster's reign has given way to muddled selection and predictable attacks.
The attacking is fine. It's the finishing that is humiliating.
Mind you Scotland's defense has been non existent appart from Hogg.
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Duty281 wrote:GeordieFalcon wrote:And people actually think we have a chance of winning the World Cup.???? That's comical!
The early promise of Lancaster's reign has given way to muddled selection and predictable attacks.
Hardly predictable, but finishing is just shocking.
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surely a card for Cole! Absolutely clear cut!
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How is that NOT a sin bin ?
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Probably a good penalty for Cole to give away I guess, particularly as he didn't get a yellow
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Blatant yellow card there
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Dan Cole has to be yellow-carded; so blatant, so cynical.
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Scotland actually look more dangerous out wide.
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Poor poor refereeing - I hope that standard of non-yellow persists.
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Cole thought the "use it" also applied to him
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Our midfield defence is absolutely amateurish
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Should have carded him for utter stupidity. Flabbergasted. We have got progressively worse throughout this 6Ns.
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That's a good kick by Russell. Have to try and get points from this
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poite is off his rocker at scrum. nuts. scotland shove early. england shove back and get them going. what is poite talking about?
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