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Post by GLove39 Sun 08 Mar 2015, 3:19 pm

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ENGLAND v SCOTLAND  
Saturday 14 February 2015
KO 17:00 (GMT)
Twickers

Live on BBC1

Referee: Romain Poitey (FFR)
AR1: George Clancy (IRFU)   vomit
AR2: Marius Mitrea (FIR)
TMO: Ben Skeen (NZR)

Teams:

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M Brown (Harlequins); A Watson (Bath), J Joseph (Bath), L Burrell (Northampton), J Nowell (Exeter); G Ford (Bath), B Youngs (Leicester); J Marler (Harlequins), D Hartley (Northampton), D Cole (Leicester), D Attwood (Bath), C Lawes (Northampton), J Haskell (Wasps), C Robshaw (Harlequins, capt), B Vunipola (Saracens).

Replacements: T Youngs (Leicester), M Vunipola (Saracens), K Brookes (Newcastle), G Parling (Leicester), T Wood (Northampton), R Wigglesworth (Saracens), D Cipriani (Sale), B Twelvetrees (Gloucester).

SCOTLAND
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Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors); Dougie Fife (Edinburgh), Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors), Matt Scott (Edinburgh), Tommy Seymour, Finn Russell (both Glasgow Warriors), Greig Laidlaw (captn) (Gloucester); Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh), Ross Ford (Edinburgh), Euan Murray (Glasgow Warriors), Jim Hamilton (Saracens), Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors), Robert Harley (Glasgow Warriors), Blair Cowan (London Irish) David Denton (Edinburgh).

Replacements: Fraser Brown, Ryan Grant (both Glasgow Warriors), Geoff Cross (London Irish), Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors), Johnnie Beattie (Montpellier), Adam Ashe (Glasgow Warriors), Sam Hidalgo-Clyne and Greig Tonks (both Edinburgh)


The result of the Ireland game beforehand could make things very interesting from an English perspective. Tournament could be blown wide open, & see England looking for a big score with an eye to next weekend & things coming down to points difference.

For us, there's nothing at stake bar pride & some melted Indian Rupees.

Twickenham was always going to be tough, but given how things have gone this tournament I'm absolutely dreading this match.
Our record down South is more embarrassing than Natalie Bennett on LBC! 32 long years since we last won at Twickenham and in the last half century we've managed just one other win in 1971. Stretch things back to the whole century and we can double our total with wins in 1926 & 1938!

Fear we'll see a similar game to England - Italy, valiant start by us & some swashbuckling stuff before ultimately being crushed in the final quarter. Although if we 'defend' the maul like we did against Italy the score will be worse.

On the bright side though, scoring any points would be an improvement on last years Calcutta Cup match... Braveheart

Preconditions people? Am I being too gloomy?

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Post by nathan Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:15 pm

Hartley started poorly again

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Post by quinsforever Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:15 pm

lawes. good to see you back in the team

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Post by GLove39 Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:15 pm

Hogg great tackle. At least someone's trying

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Post by quinsforever Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:15 pm

also glad to see brown let the ball get turned over rather than concede penalty there.

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Post by TheRugbyMaster Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:15 pm

Wow, wasteful. Two of the worst try costing blunders I've seen. Lucky for England there will be plenty more.

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Post by Hood83 Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:16 pm

Have England heard of the term 'support'?

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Post by Scottish White Line Fever Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:16 pm

What an absolute shambles from Scotland. England thoroughly dominant, should take the scrum again from this penalty.

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Post by Scottish White Line Fever Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:17 pm

GLove39 wrote:Hogg great tackle. At least someone's trying

If the rest of our team put in half the effort and desire that Hogg puts in, we'd be a far better rugby team.

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Post by TheRugbyMaster Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:17 pm

England are feeding the scrum into the second row Which is allowing them to shove without needing to hook.

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Post by Geordie Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:19 pm

Nowells is playing well...but id like to see him increase that pace just a little.

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Post by Hood83 Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:19 pm

TheRugbyMaster wrote:England are feeding the scrum into the second row Which is allowing them to shove without needing to hook.

Agreed, we're not even trying to hide it with the usual slight spin, it's completely crooked.

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Post by Geordie Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:20 pm

On second thoughts Nowell had two men on either side of him...bad play.

Typical of englands backs no awareness of whos around them.


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Post by TheRugbyMaster Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:20 pm

It's men against boys. This will get embarrassing.

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Post by kingelderfield Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:20 pm

That's 2 tries we've butchered

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Post by BamBam Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:20 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Nowells is playing well...but id like to see him increase that pace just a little.
He seems plenty quick to me, if he stayed on his feet just then we were in!

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Post by tigertattie Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:21 pm

You need to feel for Stuart hogg. He's the one we look for to score tries but he's saved us 14 points so far! He's the only one trying
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Post by Hood83 Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:21 pm

Arrghhh!!! Ben Youngs why are you such an f-ing dawdler!!!!!

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Post by RDW Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:22 pm

Christ we're making nowell look like a bloody superstar

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Post by TheRugbyMaster Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:22 pm

What are Scotland doing with this aimless scattergun kicking?

And why are the pack taking half an hour to get to the breakdown?

Have they all been drinking?

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Post by Duty281 Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:22 pm

England squandering so many chances, accompanied with so many basic errors.

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Post by Hood83 Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:22 pm

There cannot be a team who wastes more chances than us

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Post by TheRugbyMaster Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:23 pm

Thus far england giving a master class in how to set up opportunities.

Also a master class in how to Love sacks them up.

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Post by RDSguru Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:23 pm

I don't know what to laugh at most, Scotland for the way they are letting England through nearly every phase, or England for butchering nearly every opportunity... I don't mean to be mean... its just laughable as a "game" of Rugby!

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Post by TheRugbyMaster Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:24 pm

And that's what happens Scotland - when YOU KEEP THE BALL IN HAND.


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Post by RDSguru Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:24 pm

I take that back.. well done Scotland :-)

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Post by BamBam Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:24 pm

Very good try

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Post by tigertattie Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:24 pm

See what happens if we don't kick the ball!!!!
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Post by Doddy76 Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:24 pm

Poor, poor kicking by Scotland. More composure needed all round.....just like that! Well worked....
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Post by Geordie Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:24 pm

And people actually think we have a chance of winning the World Cup.???? That's comical!


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Post by TheRugbyMaster Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:24 pm

RDSguru wrote:I don't know what to laugh at most, Scotland for the way they are letting England through nearly every phase, or England for butchering nearly every opportunity... I don't mean to be mean... its just laughable as a "game" of Rugby!

Ditto.

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Post by kingelderfield Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:25 pm

Interesting that dear old auntie has 3 Scottish commentators

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Post by Scottish White Line Fever Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:25 pm

the most undeserved try I've ever seen, but we're not complaining

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Post by Duty281 Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:26 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:And people actually think we have a chance of winning the World Cup.???? That's comical!


The early promise of Lancaster's reign has given way to muddled selection and predictable attacks.

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Post by Gwlad Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:26 pm

Oh England, should be 28-7 by now

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Post by Hood83 Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:26 pm

Excellent try. That is how you finish.

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Post by TheRugbyMaster Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:27 pm

Duty281 wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:And people actually think we have a chance of winning the World Cup.???? That's comical!


The early promise of Lancaster's reign has given way to muddled selection and predictable attacks.

The attacking is fine. It's the finishing that is humiliating.

Mind you Scotland's defense has been non existent appart from Hogg.

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Post by Gwlad Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:28 pm

Duty281 wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:And people actually think we have a chance of winning the World Cup.???? That's comical!


The early promise of Lancaster's reign has given way to muddled selection and predictable attacks.

Hardly predictable, but finishing is just shocking.

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Post by RDW Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:31 pm

surely a card for Cole! Absolutely clear cut!

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Post by TheRugbyMaster Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:31 pm

How is that NOT a sin bin ?

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Post by Scottish White Line Fever Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:31 pm

Probably a good penalty for Cole to give away I guess, particularly as he didn't get a yellow

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Post by profitius Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:31 pm

Blatant yellow card there
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Post by Duty281 Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:31 pm

Dan Cole has to be yellow-carded; so blatant, so cynical.

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Post by Gwlad Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:32 pm

Scotland actually look more dangerous out wide.

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Post by TheRugbyMaster Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:33 pm

Poor poor refereeing - I hope that standard of non-yellow persists.

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Post by whocares Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:33 pm

Cole thought the "use it" also applied to him Wink

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Post by RDW Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:33 pm

Our midfield defence is absolutely amateurish

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Post by Hood83 Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:34 pm

Should have carded him for utter stupidity. Flabbergasted. We have got progressively worse throughout this 6Ns.

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Post by GLove39 Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:35 pm

Still can't believe Coles not in the bin

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Post by Scottish White Line Fever Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:35 pm

That's a good kick by Russell. Have to try and get points from this

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Post by quinsforever Sat 14 Mar 2015, 5:36 pm

poite is off his rocker at scrum. nuts. scotland shove early. england shove back and get them going. what is poite talking about?

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