Scotland World Cup look ahead and squad

by 123456789 Sat 21 Mar 2015, 4:19 pm

First topic message reminder :

A. WORLD CUP WARM-UP MATCHES:

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15 August 2015:Ireland v Scotland, Dublin.

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22 August 2015: Italy v Scotland, Turin.

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29 August 2015: Scotland v Italy, Edinburgh

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05 September 2015: France v Scotland, Paris

B. WORLD CUP POOL MATCHES

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23 September 2015: Scotland V Japan, Kingsholm - Gloucester.

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27 September 2015: Scotland v USA, Elland Road - Leeds.

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03 October 2015: Scotland v South Africa, St James Park - Newcastle.

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10 October 2015: Scotland v Samoa, St James Park - Newcastle.

C. EXTENDED SCOTLAND SQUAD

- FORWARDS (25) -

Prop (7):
Mike Cusack (Glasgow Warriors) – Uncapped
Allan Dell (Edinburgh Rugby) – uncapped
Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby) – 44 caps; 4 RWC appearances (2007 and 2011)
Ryan Grant (Glasgow Warriors) – 22 caps
Willem Nel (Edinburgh Rugby) – Uncapped
Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors) – 8 caps
Jon Welsh (Newcastle Falcons) – 4 caps

Hooker (3):
Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 8 caps
Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) – 85 caps; 8 RWC appearances (2007 and 2011)
Stuart McInally (Edinburgh Rugby) – Uncapped

Second-row (6):
Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh Rugby) – 8 caps
Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors) – 13 caps
Richie Gray (Castres) – 44 caps
Jim Hamilton (Saracens) – 61 caps; 6 RWC appearances (2007 and 2011)
Robert Harley (Glasgow Warriors) – 15 caps
Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps

Back-row (9):
Adam Ashe (Glasgow Warriors) – 5 caps
John Barclay (Scarlets) – 43 caps; 4 RWC appearances (2007 and 2011)
Hugh Blake (Glasgow Warriors) – Uncapped
Blair Cowan (London Irish) – 11 caps
David Denton (Edinburgh Rugby) – 25 caps
Josh Strauss (Glasgow Warriors) – Uncapped
Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan) – 44 caps; 3 RWC appearances (2011)
Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) – 9 caps
Hamish Watson (Edinburgh Rugby) – 1 cap

- BACKS (21) -

Scrum-half (4):
Chris Cusiter (Sale Sharks) – 70 caps; 6 RWC appearances (2007 and 2011)
Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (Edinburgh Rugby) – 5 caps
Greig Laidlaw (Gloucester) – 39 caps
Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors) – 13 caps

Stand-off (3):
Ruaridh Jackson (Wasps) – 25 caps; 3 RWC appearances (2011)
Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors) – 9 caps
Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors) – 18 caps

Centre (6):
Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors) – 7 caps
Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors) – 14 caps
Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors) – 7 caps
Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby) – 25 caps
Duncan Taylor (Saracens) – 12 caps
Richie Vernon (Glasgow Warriors) – 20 caps; 3 RWC appearances (2011)

Back-three (8):
Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) – 32 caps
Damien Hoyland (Edinburgh Rugby) – Uncapped
Rory Hughes (Glasgow Warriors) – Uncapped
Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors) – 93 caps; 8 RWC appearances (2007 and 2011)
Sean Maitland (London Irish) – 15 caps
Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors) – 17 caps
Greig Tonks (Edinburgh Rugby) – 4 caps
Tim Visser (Harlequins) – 18 caps

by **George Carlin** Mon 29 Jun 2015, 2:40 pm

madmaccas wrote:
TOOLIS AND FIFE JOIN SCOTLAND SQUAD

Edinburgh Rugby duo Dougie Fife and Ben Toolis were today added to Scotland’s extended training squad for the Rugby World Cup 2015.

The pair are injury replacements for Glasgow Warriors lock Tim Swinson and Saracens centre Duncan Taylor, both of whom require corrective surgery to ongoing ankle and shoulder complaints respectively.

Swinson and Taylor are expected to be unavailable for up to three months, which rules them out of the national team’s four warm-up games ahead of the Rugby World Cup 2015.

Fife (24), who has scored 16 tries in 64 games for his club, earned three of his six Scotland caps in the 2015 RBS 6 Nations, scoring the only try in the team’s 15-8 loss to France in Paris.

Toolis (23) earned his first cap as a replacement in the same campaign after a breakthrough season for the capital club, starting 20 from 22 matches and scoring his first try in the side’s European Challenge Cup semi-final win over Dragons.

I think that clearly rules them out of the WC.

Godammit. Duncan Taylor is a real loss - a championship winning player that was both robust and in-form. Why, Bill McLaren? Whyyyyyy?

by Prothero Mon 29 Jun 2015, 6:52 pm

Centres and injured Shoulders? new trend? its almost like the Human shoulder is not meant to be used as a battering ram, can we remind our precious Young talent Scott, Bennett, Horne, Vernon and Dunbar to Run at the branch's not the trunk at least until they are fully healed and we face England in the latter stage's where we can use our super strong healed up shoulder's to run straight over em!

by **George Carlin** Tue 30 Jun 2015, 7:33 am

I think that I would have cried if you told me a year ago that our startig RWC centre combination would be Horne and Vernon.

Now that some time has passed, I still probably would.

by **RDW** Tue 30 Jun 2015, 8:42 am

Oh FFS - our world cup kit has tartan in it! Rolling Eyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoyIysYarJo

by jimbopip Tue 30 Jun 2015, 8:45 am

George Carlin wrote:I think that I would have cried if you told me a year ago that our startig RWC centre combination would be Horne and Vernon.

Now that some time has passed, I still probably would.

Ah but George... If we had told you a year ago that the Scotland RWC centre pairing would be the Pro 12 champions pairing ... Very Happy

Let's just hope neither of them falls over, or goes for a kebeb with Batman and Bane, before then. Fingers Crossed

by R!skysports Tue 30 Jun 2015, 9:22 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Oh FFS - our world cup kit has tartan in it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoyIysYarJo

Oh god- it looks like it has been designed by 5 year olds

At least it is not the Commonwealth outfit

Why oh why are we becoming so kicsh!

by **RDW** Tue 30 Jun 2015, 9:23 am

The tartan just makes it both twee and chavvy at the same time.

If it wasn't for the tartan I'd like it!

by Majestic83 Tue 30 Jun 2015, 9:49 am

I'm going to be controversial and say that from that glimpse of it in the video I think it looks fairly good.
Seeing what it looks like in person might be a different story but at least its a dark tartan so isn't to out there!

by **George Carlin** Tue 30 Jun 2015, 10:00 am

It's only in the side panels and under the collar for god's sake. It's not like a Vivienne Westwood ball gown or a Rod Stewart suit circa 1973.

The tartan is also the existing SRU tartan which is muted anyway. I like the navy, actually, less keen on the white.

by cakeordeath Tue 30 Jun 2015, 10:08 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:The tartan just makes it both twee and chavvy at the same time.

If it wasn't for the tartan I'd like it!

I like the deep blue colour, and that's about it. Not a fan of the tartan

by madmaccas Tue 30 Jun 2015, 10:28 am

I don't think it's too bad, in fact I actually quite like it. IMO wise it would have looked better with a red dress tartan (as opposed to green which clashes a wee bit).

by jimbopip Tue 30 Jun 2015, 10:28 am

The skin tight fit might look good on Mr Chinhook : on him it might say "sports bar" or even, "gay bar" but on myself it would just scream "Mars Bar" (and far too many of them. cake

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by R!skysports Tue 30 Jun 2015, 10:56 am

Look forward to seeing what the ones for real fans look like - I would expect the side flaps would be about 20x bigger to accommodate my larger stomach muscles

by GLove39 Tue 30 Jun 2015, 10:59 am

Well here it is in the full, just a shame the tartan doesn't extend down to the shorts.

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by madmaccas Tue 30 Jun 2015, 11:09 am

GLove39 wrote:Well here it is in the full, just a shame the tartan doesn't extend down to the shorts.

Yeah that's weird isn't it. The green looks great on the change shirt but I still think red tartan would have been better against the blue.

by Nematode Tue 30 Jun 2015, 11:20 am

Hang on a minute...

Remember there was a competition to design the Scotland jersey? My away jersey that I designed then looks suspiciously like the new away jersey... I had tartan on the bottom right of the jersey (not the side though) chin

Macron, my commission please ...

by EWT Spoons Tue 30 Jun 2015, 11:29 am

I quite like it, plus the SRU tartan is not a million miles away from my family tartan so that's a bonus.

by IanBru Tue 30 Jun 2015, 4:37 pm

I really like the new kit - slightly minimalist, slightly nationalist, slightly existentialist.

I know I've seen those colours before though... where was it...

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by jimbopip Tue 30 Jun 2015, 4:47 pm

Bru bro, where have you been hiding? Did you hear...the Warriors are still champions? Yahoo

Also, I have a Bokkie friend who is now suggesting I accompany him to the match at Noocassel. If only I knew somone who lived there or thereabouts. Whistle

by Don Alfonso Tue 30 Jun 2015, 5:19 pm

The last year I lived in Scotland, you had some kind of eye-bursting salmon number. This is better.

Why no Irn Bru orange?

by IanBru Tue 30 Jun 2015, 6:01 pm

jimbopip wrote:Bru bro, where have you been hiding? Did you hear...the Warriors are still champions?

Also, I have a Bokkie friend who is now suggesting I accompany him to the match at Noocassel. If only I knew somone who lived there or thereabouts.

Hey chief, I've been on a casual self-imposed hiatus from the madhouse for a little bit, but I'm definitely back now!

Absolutely you can stay - I should have my new place sorted by then. Bit of a fixer-upper, but when it's done I'm thinking of calling it the 'Radisson Bru'.

I should say, while I'll be with my folks for the Samoa match, if any of you guys are in Newcastle for the Bokke match, give me a shout and we'll have a drink. Jim and Schiz can provide character references... Whistle

by jimbopip Tue 30 Jun 2015, 7:03 pm

Ian,

You little beauty.

MrsPip says you sound like a very nice young man. Another wife smitten, eh?

by Nematode Tue 30 Jun 2015, 8:00 pm

Anyone know who the front of shirt sponsor will be? BTSport?

by **George Carlin** Tue 30 Jun 2015, 8:58 pm

Are they allowed for the World Cup?

by **RDW** Tue 30 Jun 2015, 9:05 pm

No sponsors during the world cup.

Not sure why though....just always been that way.

by **George Carlin** Wed 01 Jul 2015, 8:00 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:No sponsors during the world cup.

Not sure why though....just always been that way.

Knowing McKie, we'd end up with Tampax, Netta or Immodium plastered across our chests.

by IanBru Wed 01 Jul 2015, 8:05 am

George Carlin wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:No sponsors during the world cup.

Not sure why though....just always been that way.
Knowing McKie, we'd end up with Tampax, Netta or Immodium plastered across our chests.

Sounds like your average night out in Oban.

by **George Carlin** Wed 01 Jul 2015, 9:07 am

IanBru wrote:
George Carlin wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:No sponsors during the world cup.

Not sure why though....just always been that way.
Knowing McKie, we'd end up with Tampax, Netta or Immodium plastered across our chests.
Sounds like your average night out in Oban.

by tigertattie Wed 01 Jul 2015, 9:48 am

IanBru wrote:
Schiz can provide character references...

Thats like a primary teacher saying Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris will vouch for them!

by jimbopip Wed 01 Jul 2015, 9:49 am

George Carlin wrote:
IanBru wrote:
George Carlin wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:No sponsors during the world cup.

Not sure why though....just always been that way.
Knowing McKie, we'd end up with Tampax, Netta or Immodium plastered across our chests.
Sounds like your average night out in Oban.

Whenever you're gone: you're gone too long. clap

by **RDW** Wed 01 Jul 2015, 10:28 am

Oban is both a random choice and a specific place to choose for the joke - does that mean you have a story to tell from a trip there??

by **George Carlin** Wed 01 Jul 2015, 10:33 am

Lordy - we've nearly filled this thread with our own particular brand of effluvia - I'll do a separate thread for the warm-up matches in a bit.

by **RDW** Wed 01 Jul 2015, 10:35 am

George Carlin wrote:Lordy - we've nearly filled this thread with our own particular brand of effluvia - I'll do a separate thread for the warm-up matches in a bit.

That's my bad to be fair - I merged the '6N review/world cup lookahead' thread into a new thread created for the WC. I should have just locked the 6N one. So half of the thread is discussing the 6N!

by madmaccas Wed 01 Jul 2015, 10:39 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:No sponsors during the world cup.

Not sure why though....just always been that way.

World Rugby, as they are now known, sell the tournament partnerships for hundreds of millions. These official advertisers understandably don't want any conflicts or media clutter.

They could get rid of the exclusivity, but the rights for World Rugby would be worth significantly less. No doubt in time the bigwigs in England and France will demand that the profits are to divided based on viewing numbers etc.

by **RDW** Wed 01 Jul 2015, 10:45 am

madmaccas wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:No sponsors during the world cup.

Not sure why though....just always been that way.

World Rugby, as they are now known, sell the tournament partnerships for hundreds of millions. These official advertisers understandably don't want any conflicts or media clutter.

They could get rid of the exclusivity, but the rights for World Rugby would be worth significantly less. No doubt in time the bigwigs in England and France will demand that the profits are to divided based on viewing numbers etc.

Thanks for clarifying. Seems strange that less marketing exposure on shirts = more money, but what do I know!

by jimbopip Wed 01 Jul 2015, 10:48 am

Dear aunts Georgia and Rebecca (De Winters),
I have a problem; pre-season starts tonight and it's too feccin hot already. It took till today for my legs to get over an hour and a half touch/rounders with Pippetto's scallywags on Sunday morning and the ground's had three days to bake since then.
I seem to be carrying Chris Fusaro in excess weight at the moment and this has led to comfort eating which, although the cakes are nice at the time, makes me feel shamed and worthless. This of course causes me to drink to forget.
I wrote to that nice Mr Cotter and he told me to, "sacrifice a young kid at full moon and drink the still warm blood. That'll pep you up." I assume he meant a young goat.
His civil partner, Rab C wrote to me saying, "Cakes, beer, self loathing. You sound my kind of sheila. I'll be round on Saturday: get your bikini waxed."

So, should I go to training tonight?

by madmaccas Wed 01 Jul 2015, 11:14 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:
madmaccas wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:No sponsors during the world cup.

Not sure why though....just always been that way.

World Rugby, as they are now known, sell the tournament partnerships for hundreds of millions. These official advertisers understandably don't want any conflicts or media clutter.

They could get rid of the exclusivity, but the rights for World Rugby would be worth significantly less. No doubt in time the bigwigs in England and France will demand that the profits are to divided based on viewing numbers etc.

Thanks for clarifying. Seems strange that less marketing exposure on shirts = more money, but what do I know!

The problem with that is that the native sponsor (e.g BT Sport for us) would get shirty Wink

if another brand was worn on their top (imagine SKY/Foxtel were the principle broadcasters and every team had to wear SKY on their shirts). It would also be fairly meaningless for teams from say Canada to have brands that only exist in EMEA on their shirts. That's why the best thing to do is just remove them from all shirts.

by **George Carlin** Wed 01 Jul 2015, 11:35 am

madmaccas wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
madmaccas wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:No sponsors during the world cup.

Not sure why though....just always been that way.

World Rugby, as they are now known, sell the tournament partnerships for hundreds of millions. These official advertisers understandably don't want any conflicts or media clutter.

They could get rid of the exclusivity, but the rights for World Rugby would be worth significantly less. No doubt in time the bigwigs in England and France will demand that the profits are to divided based on viewing numbers etc.

Thanks for clarifying. Seems strange that less marketing exposure on shirts = more money, but what do I know!

The problem with that is that the native sponsor (e.g BT Sport for us) would get shirty if another brand was worn on their top (imagine SKY/Foxtel were the principle broadcasters and every team had to wear SKY on their shirts). It would also be fairly meaningless for teams from say Canada to have brands that only exist in EMEA on their shirts. That's why the best thing to do is just remove them from all shirts.

I agree. It's funny to see what are very 'local' brands for me appearing on Barcelona, Real Madrid and Man City shirts.

Wonder how many Barca fans could pick out Doha on a map.

by Nematode Wed 01 Jul 2015, 4:53 pm

Match officials confirmed for @Scotlandteam RWC pool rounds:
Japan - John Lacey
USA - Chris Pollock
Boks - Nigel Owens
Samoa - Jaco Peyper

by **RDW** Wed 01 Jul 2015, 4:56 pm

Nematode wrote:Match officials confirmed for @Scotlandteam RWC pool rounds:
Japan - John Lacey
USA - Chris Pollock
Boks - Nigel Owens
Samoa - Jaco Peyper

Not too bad - the fact that the names Jackson, Joubert, Clancey and Barnes aren't there is very reassuring.

by **George Carlin** Wed 01 Jul 2015, 5:00 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
Nematode wrote:Match officials confirmed for @Scotlandteam RWC pool rounds:
Japan - John Lacey
USA - Chris Pollock
Boks - Nigel Owens
Samoa - Jaco Peyper

Not too bad - the fact that the names Jackson, Joubert, Clancey and Barnes aren't there is very reassuring.

Can't have any complaints about that - Peyper is a superb referee - the best SA official.

Never seen him make any howlers and he has a bit of humour about his officiating.

by jimbopip Wed 01 Jul 2015, 5:35 pm

George Carlin wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
Nematode wrote:Match officials confirmed for @Scotlandteam RWC pool rounds:
Japan - John Lacey
USA - Chris Pollock
Boks - Nigel Owens
Samoa - Jaco Peyper

Not too bad - the fact that the names Jackson, Joubert, Clancey and Barnes aren't there is very reassuring.
Can't have any complaints about that - Peyper is a superb referee - the best SA official.

Never seen him make any howlers and he has a bit of humour about his officiating.

Clownshoes also has a bit of humour about his reffing, but somehow I don't think you mean it like that.

by jimbopip Thu 02 Jul 2015, 7:00 am

All joking aside lads: looks like the bumpties at HQ have fecced up yet again.

Big Tacky has been named in the Wallaby squad for the Rugby Championship. Doh

This will scupper any plans for him becoming SQ, but will it also block his move to Scotstoun? One would have assumed that the blood sucking parasites who drew up the contract would have considered this eventuality. Although perhaps he saw it as a big money move and then the ARU upped the ante. In which case can the SRU claim compensation for breach of contract?

I can't see why he would play for Oz just now and then move to Glasgow and effectively end his international career for the next three years. Certainly Glasgow were expecting to employ him on the understanding that he would be available during the World Cup ( where he'll be needed as cover for Rory Hughes who'll be playing inside centre for Scotland alongside Lee Jones, the way things are going). It really does look as if he will stay in the antipodes.

Someone has acted in bad faith at the very least and the SRU legal team have been less than competent if the contracts that were supposedly signed did not have punitive compensation clauses. But obviously no sanity clause.

by **RDW** Thu 02 Jul 2015, 7:22 am

This is just an extended training squad so he's not tied to Australia yet, but things aren't looking great for his Glasgow move.

Could be a bit of a backlash from Glasgow ST holders - I'm sure the numbers shot up when it was announced he was signing!

by Manky-Flanker Thu 02 Jul 2015, 7:46 am

Surely the rise in ST holders can be better explained by Glasgow's Pro12 success rather than an uncapped signing?

Regardless, its hard to imagine he would want to leave Oz now as everything seems to be going his way.

by **RDW** Thu 02 Jul 2015, 7:50 am

Manky-Flanker wrote:Surely the rise in ST holders can be better explained by Glasgow's Pro12 success rather than an uncapped signing?

Regardless, its hard to imagine he would want to leave Oz now as everything seems to be going his way.

Absolutely, but given there was a big marketing push after it was announced he was signing it won't look great if he eventually cancels the deal.

I doubt anyone will demand a refund due to it, but I'm not sure what the legal basis would be if they claimed they bought the ST on the basis that Glasgow said he was coming!

by jimbopip Thu 02 Jul 2015, 8:13 am

Sorry RDW, I'm with the Manky one on this. People bought the season tickets because they want to see Glasgow continue winning things ( a concept which may be difficult for followers of the exfoliators to grasp) the big name signing was just the icing on the cake.

However, I hope someone at Murrayfield is having his genitals put through an industrial strength shredder even as we speak.

No, what I really hope for is...

(phone rings)

"Hello Gregor, Llanelli isn't nearly as pretty as Glasgow and the kebab shops are quite rough. Can I come back please?"

Ah, we can but dream.

by **RDW** Thu 02 Jul 2015, 8:29 am

Don't get me wrong the uplift in ST sales is definitely due to the team winning, but I'm just wondering from a 'false advertising' point of view if someone demanded a refund because they bought the ST on the basis that Big T was signing for the club. I suppose given that Glasgow at the time weren't lying when they said he was signing there is no case...unless they knew there was a chance he wouldn't come!

Let's face it, if Beauden Barrit signed for Edinburgh I'd get a ST!

by **George Carlin** Thu 02 Jul 2015, 8:34 am

Cannot understand why him playing for Australia would affect a move to a different club side? Why would it? Tacky is being included now to stop him playing for Fiji. He was never, ever going to be a SQ player - he's both too good and too fashionable at the moment.

by **RDW** Thu 02 Jul 2015, 8:36 am

George Carlin wrote:Cannot understand why him playing for Australia would affect a move to a different club side? Why would it? Tacky is being included now to stop him playing for Fiji. He was never, ever going to be a SQ player - he's both too good and too fashionable at the moment.

The point being will he still want to come to Glasgow and rule himself out of international selection for 3 years?

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