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Edinburgh, Glasgow and London Scottish Arrivals & Departures
First topic message reminder :
With a few players announcing their departures, and few named to replace them, I thought it'd be useful to have an in-out list.
Also a good place to post any rumours or rumours of rumours.
Let me know if I'm missing anyone?!
Edinburgh
In:
Nasi Manu - Highlanders - Flanker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DsgMvrYr6I
Will Helu - Coventry Wasps - Wing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luMTcwgcr5U
Nathan Fowles - Sale - SH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFWzXXhzeQE
Michael Allen - Ulster - Wing/Centre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHnLKIz0Ecw
Otulea Katoa - Southland - Wing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crq6ZJKaeg4
Duncan Hodge - SRU - Backs Coach
Out:
Tim Visser - Harlequins - Wing
Ollie Atkins - Exeter Chiefs - Lock
Michael Tait - the bar - Centre
Tom Heathcote - Worcester Warriors - FH
Grayson Hart - Glasgow Warriors - SH
Wicus Blaauw - ? - Prop
Brett Thompson - ? -
Nikki Walker - Hawick - Wing
Contract ending:
Hookers: Hilterbrand, Turner
Props: Dickinson, Nel
BR: Leonardi, Du Preez
FH: Bezuidenhout
Centre: Dominguez, Atiga
Wings: Farndale
Glasgow Warriors
In:
Grayson Hart - Edinburgh - SH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1ReJ_oz1Rk
Mike Blair - Newcastle Falcons - SH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sWN-M8lQ2o
Keiran Low - London Irish - Lock/Flanker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qszjBclzxds
Simone Favaro - Treviso - Flanker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAcEaWGY8yk
Sam Johnson - Queensland Reds - Centre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J_O4sLMfdc
Greg Peterson - Leicester Tigers - Lock
Taqele Naiyaravoro - NSW Waratahs - Wing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgSC643wJRI
Javan Sebastian - Scarlets Academy - Prop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9N4q0zcwTo
Jason Hill - Heriot’s - No.8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my_UQoN8DM8
Hugh Blake - Edinburgh? - Flanker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIIuR-HjFho
Sila Puafisi - Gloucester - Prop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXLR_9CXkUs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqAneyg0Fqw
Dan McFarland - Connacht - Forwards Coach
Out:
Niko Matawalu - Bath - SH
Sean Maitland - London Irish - Wing
John Welsh - Newcastle Falcons - Prop
Dougie Hall - the bar - Hooker
Al Kellock - the bar - Lock
DTH - Scarlets - Wing
Tom Ryder - Northampton - Lock
James Downey - Wasps - Centre
Murray McConnell - Nottingham - Centre
Tommy Spinks - Jersey - Flanker
Shade Munroe - ? - Forwards Coach
Contract ending:
Props: Murray, G.Hunter
SH: Price
FH: Hunter, Lyle
Wings: Hughes
Full Backs: Braid
London Scottish
In:
Drew Locke - Jersey - Centre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KcGBGC7FKI
Neale Patrick - Plymouth - Lock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsi07ANTE04
Russell Weir - Scotland 7's - SH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agpcYh30H04
David Young - Newport Dragons - Prop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxIq4nwimCM
Freddie Clarke - Bath - Flanker
Jason Harries - Wales 7's - Centre
Jimmy Litchfield - London Welsh - Prop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMCPZqsXqHo
James Chisholm - Harlequins - No.8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl9v5JzpUn0 (scorer of both tries)
Craig Jackson - Hartbury - Full Back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jXMZE5Xl-k
Rory Bartle - Gloucester - Lock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWJF0rIYhms
Tyrone Moran - Leinster - Hooker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he4Bq0Dkdfg
Will Carrick-Smith - Exeter - Lock
Joe Marchant - Harlequins - Centre https://vine.co/v/O2FBmaU6dD2
Kieran Treadwell - Harlequins - Lock
James Gibbons - Gloucester - Prop
Season long loan from Bath Rugby
Beno Obano - Bath - Prop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwqWvAmmYfw
Tom Woolstencroft - Bath - Hooker https://vine.co/v/MTDzbLxOxTM
Peter Richards - LS - Promoted to Head Coach
Tim Payne - London Irish - Forwards Coach
Out:
Adam Preocanin - Ealing Trailfinders - Lock
Gregor Gillanders - Blackheath - Flanker
James Phillips - Bristol - No.8
Jamie Stevenson - Wasps - Scrum Half
Kieran Moffat- returned to New Zealand - Centre
Lovejoy Chawatama - Rosslyn Park - Prop
Mark Lilley - Rosslyn Park - Prop
Matt Hawke - Rosslyn Park - Centre
Mike Doneghan - AS Macon - Wing
Neil Best - Retired - Flanker
PJ Gidlow - Stade Rouennais - Centre
Ross Doneghan - Retired - Flanker
Stewart Maguire - East Grinstead - Prop
Tai Tuisamoa - returned to USA - Flanker
Mike Friday - USA 7's - Head Coach
With a few players announcing their departures, and few named to replace them, I thought it'd be useful to have an in-out list.
Also a good place to post any rumours or rumours of rumours.
Let me know if I'm missing anyone?!
Edinburgh
In:
Nasi Manu - Highlanders - Flanker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DsgMvrYr6I
Will Helu - Coventry Wasps - Wing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luMTcwgcr5U
Nathan Fowles - Sale - SH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFWzXXhzeQE
Michael Allen - Ulster - Wing/Centre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHnLKIz0Ecw
Otulea Katoa - Southland - Wing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crq6ZJKaeg4
Duncan Hodge - SRU - Backs Coach
Out:
Tim Visser - Harlequins - Wing
Ollie Atkins - Exeter Chiefs - Lock
Michael Tait - the bar - Centre
Tom Heathcote - Worcester Warriors - FH
Grayson Hart - Glasgow Warriors - SH
Wicus Blaauw - ? - Prop
Brett Thompson - ? -
Nikki Walker - Hawick - Wing
Contract ending:
Hookers: Hilterbrand, Turner
Props: Dickinson, Nel
BR: Leonardi, Du Preez
FH: Bezuidenhout
Centre: Dominguez, Atiga
Wings: Farndale
Glasgow Warriors
In:
Grayson Hart - Edinburgh - SH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1ReJ_oz1Rk
Mike Blair - Newcastle Falcons - SH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sWN-M8lQ2o
Keiran Low - London Irish - Lock/Flanker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qszjBclzxds
Simone Favaro - Treviso - Flanker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAcEaWGY8yk
Sam Johnson - Queensland Reds - Centre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J_O4sLMfdc
Greg Peterson - Leicester Tigers - Lock
Taqele Naiyaravoro - NSW Waratahs - Wing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgSC643wJRI
Javan Sebastian - Scarlets Academy - Prop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9N4q0zcwTo
Jason Hill - Heriot’s - No.8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my_UQoN8DM8
Hugh Blake - Edinburgh? - Flanker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIIuR-HjFho
Sila Puafisi - Gloucester - Prop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXLR_9CXkUs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqAneyg0Fqw
Dan McFarland - Connacht - Forwards Coach
Out:
Niko Matawalu - Bath - SH
Sean Maitland - London Irish - Wing
John Welsh - Newcastle Falcons - Prop
Dougie Hall - the bar - Hooker
Al Kellock - the bar - Lock
DTH - Scarlets - Wing
Tom Ryder - Northampton - Lock
James Downey - Wasps - Centre
Murray McConnell - Nottingham - Centre
Tommy Spinks - Jersey - Flanker
Shade Munroe - ? - Forwards Coach
Contract ending:
Props: Murray, G.Hunter
SH: Price
FH: Hunter, Lyle
Wings: Hughes
Full Backs: Braid
London Scottish
In:
Drew Locke - Jersey - Centre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KcGBGC7FKI
Neale Patrick - Plymouth - Lock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsi07ANTE04
Russell Weir - Scotland 7's - SH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agpcYh30H04
David Young - Newport Dragons - Prop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxIq4nwimCM
Freddie Clarke - Bath - Flanker
Jason Harries - Wales 7's - Centre
Jimmy Litchfield - London Welsh - Prop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMCPZqsXqHo
James Chisholm - Harlequins - No.8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl9v5JzpUn0 (scorer of both tries)
Craig Jackson - Hartbury - Full Back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jXMZE5Xl-k
Rory Bartle - Gloucester - Lock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWJF0rIYhms
Tyrone Moran - Leinster - Hooker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he4Bq0Dkdfg
Will Carrick-Smith - Exeter - Lock
Joe Marchant - Harlequins - Centre https://vine.co/v/O2FBmaU6dD2
Kieran Treadwell - Harlequins - Lock
James Gibbons - Gloucester - Prop
Season long loan from Bath Rugby
Beno Obano - Bath - Prop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwqWvAmmYfw
Tom Woolstencroft - Bath - Hooker https://vine.co/v/MTDzbLxOxTM
Peter Richards - LS - Promoted to Head Coach
Tim Payne - London Irish - Forwards Coach
Out:
Adam Preocanin - Ealing Trailfinders - Lock
Gregor Gillanders - Blackheath - Flanker
James Phillips - Bristol - No.8
Jamie Stevenson - Wasps - Scrum Half
Kieran Moffat- returned to New Zealand - Centre
Lovejoy Chawatama - Rosslyn Park - Prop
Mark Lilley - Rosslyn Park - Prop
Matt Hawke - Rosslyn Park - Centre
Mike Doneghan - AS Macon - Wing
Neil Best - Retired - Flanker
PJ Gidlow - Stade Rouennais - Centre
Ross Doneghan - Retired - Flanker
Stewart Maguire - East Grinstead - Prop
Tai Tuisamoa - returned to USA - Flanker
Mike Friday - USA 7's - Head Coach
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Re: Edinburgh, Glasgow and London Scottish Arrivals & Departures
Got the following from ER in an email trying to get me to renew my ST early, I will but probably not just now. That says inter alia;
"Looking ahead to next year, while we'll be saying goodbye to one of your firm favourites in Tim Visser, we can be excited by the current crop of young players including Sam Hidalgo-Clyne, Dougie Fife and Ben Toolis representing Edinburgh alongside established senior players such as Ross Ford, Alasdair Dickinson and WP Nel. We'll be working hard for the rest of this season, as well as over the summer, to represent our club and our fans, inspire young players and excite our city."
That says to me that Dickinson and Nel have signed, otherwise they wouldn't be trying to sell STs on the back of it.
FWIW I reckon they probably have, but the SRU's comms strategy seems to be to drip feed the news to maximise the press coverage.
"Looking ahead to next year, while we'll be saying goodbye to one of your firm favourites in Tim Visser, we can be excited by the current crop of young players including Sam Hidalgo-Clyne, Dougie Fife and Ben Toolis representing Edinburgh alongside established senior players such as Ross Ford, Alasdair Dickinson and WP Nel. We'll be working hard for the rest of this season, as well as over the summer, to represent our club and our fans, inspire young players and excite our city."
That says to me that Dickinson and Nel have signed, otherwise they wouldn't be trying to sell STs on the back of it.
FWIW I reckon they probably have, but the SRU's comms strategy seems to be to drip feed the news to maximise the press coverage.
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justified sinner- Posts : 1042
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RDW_Scotland wrote:From an Edinburgh PoV there's some contracts that worryingly have yet to be extended still (as far as we know):
Props: Dickinson, Nel
BR: Du Preez
Edinburgh will certainly be much weaker if they went. I suspect Nel and Du Preez are likely to re-sign (especially Nel who is about to become SQ) but I have a nagging doubt that Dickinson is going to be snapped up by a big AP club. He is on top form just now and is one of the top loosheads in the home nations IMO.
I think Dickinson will be looking to stay at Edinburgh. He has done the AP stint already. He is fairly settled in Edinburgh as well with his partner and they have opened a gym together aswell so would be surprised if he looked at moving down south again.
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Every year I consider a ST, especially the pay monthly one, but never get round to doing it.
Was very close to getting one the year after the HK run - very glad I didn't given the season we had!
Was very close to getting one the year after the HK run - very glad I didn't given the season we had!
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Murray McConnell leaving Glasgow at the end of the season and going to Nottingham in the English championship!
Gotten a bit confused what 9s Glasgow will have on their books so far for next season, is it Grayson Hart, Mike Blair, Henry Pyrgos, Ali Price?
Gotten a bit confused what 9s Glasgow will have on their books so far for next season, is it Grayson Hart, Mike Blair, Henry Pyrgos, Ali Price?
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That makes a bit more sense since Hart and Blair are joining. Glasgow now have a good balance at 9 - an experienced veteran, a current international, a good squad player and a young pup.
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Waratahs confirm Taqele Naiyaravoro has signed contract with Edinburgh Rugby
Not a bad try at the weekend either (from 0:44)
Not a bad try at the weekend either (from 0:44)
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This guy is often compared to Lomu. Huge signing if that's confirmed.
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Tah's CEO confirms in that press release that he's coming so that's confirmation enough for me.
Hope Glasgow follows suit with a winger signing because they need him more than the wicker picnic basket users do at present.
Hope Glasgow follows suit with a winger signing because they need him more than the wicker picnic basket users do at present.
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The guy is an absolute beast and has scored some good tries this year.
Still have absolutely no idea why he's wanting to come to Edinburgh though!
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https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/27810437/waratahs-waiting-game-with-naiyaravoro/
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This is great news if actually confirmed. Now all we need to do is remove the road block at 12 that is Strauss, and give this bloke some ball.
Now, let's turn our attention to re-signing Dickinson, Nel and Du Preez.
Now, let's turn our attention to re-signing Dickinson, Nel and Du Preez.
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That is a massive signing.
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SirBurger wrote:That is a massive signing.
Literally (for a winger)
Height 195 cm (6 ft 5 in)
Weight 120 kg (18 st 13 lb)
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Next on the shopping list should be a tighthead prop and a fly half. In fact that's all I would have on the shopping list, and concentrate resources on those positions.
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EWT Spoons wrote:SirBurger wrote:That is a massive signing.
Literally (for a winger)
Height 195 cm (6 ft 5 in)
Weight 120 kg (18 st 13 lb)
I get the feeling that this lad could be the next Rob Dewey
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You're just jealous that Glasgow will have to resort to putting Richie Vernon on the wing next season - the Scottish Jonah Lomu (or should that say Roland Reid!).
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funnyExiledScot wrote:Next on the shopping list should be a tighthead prop and a fly half. In fact that's all I would have on the shopping list, and concentrate resources on those positions.
I'd be keen to see how Berghan gets on. I think he's been promised more game time next season, and without any basis for this assumption, I think he should be better than Andress.
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Glasgow do not resort to putting Richie V anywhere. We just thank Toonie that we have a World Class utility player to cover when our World
Class specialists are being rested.
Although at the present attritional rate I fully expect our line up for the final to be; Shrek, Harley , Richie V and GC's UKIP voting Uncle Doogie
Class specialists are being rested.
Although at the present attritional rate I fully expect our line up for the final to be; Shrek, Harley , Richie V and GC's UKIP voting Uncle Doogie
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apparently the deal is off if hes capped by the wallabies
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/rugby-union/waratahs-winger-taqele-naiyaravoro-sidesteps-his-test-dilemma/story-e6frg7o6-1227350927375
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/rugby-union/waratahs-winger-taqele-naiyaravoro-sidesteps-his-test-dilemma/story-e6frg7o6-1227350927375
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alive555 wrote:apparently the deal is off if hes capped by the wallabies
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/rugby-union/waratahs-winger-taqele-naiyaravoro-sidesteps-his-test-dilemma/story-e6frg7o6-1227350927375
Says you have to pay to read it - what does it say?
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alive555 wrote:https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/27810437/waratahs-waiting-game-with-naiyaravoro/
Great news. But the quotes from the Tahs CEO are a bit concerning - it certainly doesn't seem like they've said good bye just yet. It might not be the Visa holding everything up either...
"NSW would like to retain Naiyaravoro's services, Harris recognised the sensitivity surrounding the two factors affecting the winger's situation.
"He's got a contractual obligation to Edinburgh and the other one is he's currently going through visa applications and I wouldn't like to jeopardise either of those things," Harris told AAP.
"Obviously the Waratahs would be very keen to retain his services, but it's dependent upon a number of factors which we have no control over.
"If those circumstances change, then we'll work from there."
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Ah. My question is answered then...
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RDW_Scotland wrote:alive555 wrote:apparently the deal is off if hes capped by the wallabies
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/rugby-union/waratahs-winger-taqele-naiyaravoro-sidesteps-his-test-dilemma/story-e6frg7o6-1227350927375
Says you have to pay to read it - what does it say?
I can't access it either, but I guess it was the same as it's always been. He's being brought in potentially as a project player, but if he get's capped by Australia prior to joining then the deal is off. This was the chat anyway when the move was first reported
Here this is the story from the hootsman
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/rugby/latest/edinburgh-set-to-land-fijian-winger-naiyaravoro-1-3718765
"It is understood the only way that currently uncapped Naiyaravoro’s move to Scotland can collapse is if Australia decide to select him for the Wallabies, as the 19-stone player has a clause in his contract stating that if the Australians call him up, he will remain in the Southern Hemisphere."
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Ah sorry I should have read Alive's post better - I though he said 'the deal is off because he is capped by the Wallabies'!
I wondered when that had happened....!
I wondered when that had happened....!
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RDW_Scotland wrote:Ah sorry I should have read Alive's post better - I though he said 'the deal is off because he is capped by the Wallabies'!
I wondered when that had happened....!
I read it that way the first time as well. I assumed i was the only one to make that mistake.
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For those that know Super Rugby, how likely is he to get picked by Australia? He's starting a lot of games and scoring tries, but how close is he to a national call up?
As I've said all along - I really can't fathom why he is attracted to Edinburgh!
As I've said all along - I really can't fathom why he is attracted to Edinburgh!
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the link i gave u is now subscriber only of which im not, so clearly u 606rs have triggerred the quota !
basically it says if hes capped deal is off. i assume that means between now and when he starts for edinburgh. i read this as meaning if hes capped in the oz squad for the wc. deal is off.
Although it could be anytime after as well i suppose, who knows.
basically it says if hes capped deal is off. i assume that means between now and when he starts for edinburgh. i read this as meaning if hes capped in the oz squad for the wc. deal is off.
Although it could be anytime after as well i suppose, who knows.
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Jaysus on a Vespa. So that means we're signing him as a project player?alive555 wrote:the link i gave u is now subscriber only of which im not, so clearly u 606rs have triggerred the quota !
basically it says if hes capped deal is off. i assume that means between now and when he starts for edinburgh. i read this as meaning if hes capped in the oz squad for the wc. deal is off.
Although it could be anytime after as well i suppose, who knows.
I wonder what the Naiyaravoro tartan is like.
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George Carlin wrote:Jaysus on a Vespa. So that means we're signing him as a project player?alive555 wrote:the link i gave u is now subscriber only of which im not, so clearly u 606rs have triggerred the quota !
basically it says if hes capped deal is off. i assume that means between now and when he starts for edinburgh. i read this as meaning if hes capped in the oz squad for the wc. deal is off.
Although it could be anytime after as well i suppose, who knows.
I wonder what the Naiyaravoro tartan is like.
You mean to say you haven't heard of his Scottish Grandfather, full name Jock Hamish Naiyaravoro?
He was one of the founding fathers of the SNP don't you know.
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Just seen some signing news so thought I'd pop back to give my input:
- Re Naiyaravoro, he's certainly no stranger in SR. Fox Sports AU's shortball & highlights have mentioned him a few times for some 'bonces' and tries. He does seem to be rated highly, and if Australia were to have warm up matches I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a cap off the bench e.g. versus America. I'm just not sure if he really suits the Australian style of play - free flowing rugby with slick back moves. Given they have Folau, Cummins, Mitchell, O'Connor, Ashley-Cooper etc, I don't know if he'd get in the RWC side.
The big question though is what he wants. I think he has maybe surpassed his expectations of how he'd get on. He could maybe try and get a wallaby cap, which might boost his Top 14 value (stay with NSW for a few years, move to a mid-table French team).
In short, I think there's a real chance of him getting capped in the warm up but not getting in the RWC squad.
- Fraser Lyle and Rory Hughes: GT commenting that they'll have much larger roles next season. Why isn't Hughes playing on the wing now then?
- Re Naiyaravoro, he's certainly no stranger in SR. Fox Sports AU's shortball & highlights have mentioned him a few times for some 'bonces' and tries. He does seem to be rated highly, and if Australia were to have warm up matches I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a cap off the bench e.g. versus America. I'm just not sure if he really suits the Australian style of play - free flowing rugby with slick back moves. Given they have Folau, Cummins, Mitchell, O'Connor, Ashley-Cooper etc, I don't know if he'd get in the RWC side.
The big question though is what he wants. I think he has maybe surpassed his expectations of how he'd get on. He could maybe try and get a wallaby cap, which might boost his Top 14 value (stay with NSW for a few years, move to a mid-table French team).
In short, I think there's a real chance of him getting capped in the warm up but not getting in the RWC squad.
- Fraser Lyle and Rory Hughes: GT commenting that they'll have much larger roles next season. Why isn't Hughes playing on the wing now then?
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I see that Glasgow have given contract extensions to Rory Hughes (I year) and Sandy Lyle (2 years).
I bet they turn out to be World Class.
I bet they turn out to be World Class.
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RDW_Scotland wrote:For those that know Super Rugby, how likely is he to get picked by Australia? He's starting a lot of games and scoring tries, but how close is he to a national call up?
As I've said all along - I really can't fathom why he is attracted to Edinburgh!
At the moment he probably isn't that close to a national call up on current form. He is pretty raw still. He has his very good moments with some of the tries he has scored but has made a few blunders as well as he is still learning the game and mostly playing league before.
Saying that he is a great prospect long term as he is getting better with each game he plays so if Australia do want him long term then I could see them capping him in one of the friendlies coming up in the summer.
At the moment he is quite far down the list of wingers with the likes of Henry Speight, Joe Tomane, Rob Horne, Nick Cummins all ahead of him plus the rebels wingers have been in good form and they have some other Fijian at the Rebels who has been making a lot of headlines.
Australia did have first call on Nemani Nadolo a few years back who is off similar size, he ran riot for the Aussie u20s team but none of the super rugby teams showed an interest and he went over seas. Now at the Crusaders and running riot again so Australia might not want to make the same mistake twice!
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Oh smeg. Mid-table mediocrity awaits us next year.jimbopip wrote:I see that Glasgow have given contract extensions to Rory Hughes (I year) and Sandy Lyle (2 years).
I bet they turn out to be World Class.
Not to worry - I'll suddenly be able to associate with my mates who are Cardiff Blues fans and are required to survive on Bread of Heaven rarebit, Brains pisswater and a double serving of abject humiliation every week.
Not that I am suggesting for one moment there is a material difference in quality between Bundee Aki, Charles Piutau and Sandy Lyle.
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I notice London Scottish have signed Neale Patrick, good to get another SQ player in the mix if London Scottish did join the Pro12. Thought he might have been of interest to Glasgow instead of the US second row they signed.
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George Carlin wrote:Oh smeg. Mid-table mediocrity awaits us next year.jimbopip wrote:I see that Glasgow have given contract extensions to Rory Hughes (I year) and Sandy Lyle (2 years).
I bet they turn out to be World Class.
Not to worry - I'll suddenly be able to associate with my mates who are Cardiff Blues fans and are required to survive on Bread of Heaven rarebit, Brains pisswater and a double serving of abject humiliation every week.
Not that I am suggesting for one moment there is a material difference in quality between Bundee Aki, Charles Piutau and Sandy Lyle.
Well hopefully this is keeping squad strength together, rather than constituting Glasgow's marquee signings!!
I rate Hughes as it happens, and would have signed him for longer than one year.
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Does our swear filter really just let us use words like bastard and pisswater?
I think that's a Frak disgrace.
I think that's a Frak disgrace.
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Agreed - when describing Separatists there are few terms I wish to use which are permitted by 606v2.
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funnyExiledScot wrote:This is great news if actually confirmed. Now all we need to do is remove the road block at 12 that is Strauss, and give this bloke some ball.
Now, let's turn our attention to re-signing Dickinson, Nel and Du Preez.
Agree entirely but I imagine Nelly and Du Preez are in the bag as, if they don't sign for Edinburgh (or Glasgow I suppose) again, they will go back to square 1 for qualification on residency grounds. I reckon we are keeping the big signings up our sleeves.
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I hope so - a quality tighthead and fly half would be my main priorities.
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funnyExiledScot wrote:I hope so - a quality tighthead and fly half would be my main priorities.
Problem is, so is every other club in the world!
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RDW_Scotland wrote:funnyExiledScot wrote:I hope so - a quality tighthead and fly half would be my main priorities.
Problem is, so is every other club in the world!
Very true, but we can pay them much less than most.....
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Well don't think we will be seeing Robbie Robinson across in Scotland any time soon.
He's back playing again having signed for Toyota Verblitz in Japan's top league.
Not sure on how long his contract is with them though.
He's back playing again having signed for Toyota Verblitz in Japan's top league.
Not sure on how long his contract is with them though.
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Robinson got no interest from Super Rugby sides for the whole of spring, presumably because nobody was happy taking the risk of his various injuries improving. A tiny part of me expects us to have looked at him and decided that he was too much of a 'carry' risk.Majestic83 wrote:Well don't think we will be seeing Robbie Robinson across in Scotland any time soon.
He's back playing again having signed for Toyota Verblitz in Japan's top league.
Not sure on how long his contract is with them though.
Rather than more likely alternative of the SRU being too busy drinking Macallan and watching 'Great British Bake Off' to have even been vaguely aware that he was available.
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George Carlin wrote:Robinson got no interest from Super Rugby sides for the whole of spring, presumably because nobody was happy taking the risk of his various injuries improving. A tiny part of me expects us to have looked at him and decided that he was too much of a 'carry' risk.Majestic83 wrote:Well don't think we will be seeing Robbie Robinson across in Scotland any time soon.
He's back playing again having signed for Toyota Verblitz in Japan's top league.
Not sure on how long his contract is with them though.
Rather than more likely alternative of the SRU being too busy drinking Macallan and watching 'Great British Bake Off' to have even been vaguely aware that he was available.
The standard procedure is for him to play in Japan, get fat, lose all his rugby instincts and then sign for Edinburgh on a three year deal.
I'm looking at you Ben Atiga.
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I see Scotland under 20s winger Robbie Nairn is off to Harlequins academy:
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/rugby/latest/robbie-nairn-ready-for-world-cup-then-harlequins-1-3769856
He's certainly well thought of - will be interesting to see how he gets on in England.
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/rugby/latest/robbie-nairn-ready-for-world-cup-then-harlequins-1-3769856
Capital teenager Robbie Nairn is on the road to success as he prepares for Scotland Under-20s duties in the World Cup and then a move to Harlequins in the coming months.
In recent weeks the 18-year-old has been concentrating on his driving test – which he came through successfully last Friday – and his upcoming school exams, but rugby is never far from the mind of this George Watson’s College pupil.
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Having been a keen footballer in his younger years, Nairn came to rugby quite late when he was 14. At the time he was a pupil at Currie High School so he headed to his local club Currie and he has never looked back.
He began playing for the club at under-15 level and because of his raw pace and size he was put on the wing.
In 2013 the Currie Under-16s won the National Youth League Cup final against Hawick Albion with Nairn named man of the match.
“When we managed to win at Murrayfield I was excited as we were a really good side and a few of us were lucky enough to play for the district and Scotland at under-16 level,” Nairn recounts.
“Stuart Hogg also presented me with the man-of-the-match award and it started to make me realise that I could give rugby a real go. I was then offered the chance to go to George Watson’s for my final two years of school and myself and my family thought it would be good for my development.”
Under the watchful eyes of school under-18 coaches Ally Donaldson and Andy Barnett, Nairn became a member of the first XV squad in 2013/14 and soon made his mark.
He scored a try at BT Murrayfield as they lifted the Brewin Dolphin Scottish Schools Cup by defeating the High School of Dundee 31-17.
Nairn, who is also a talented athlete, said: “It was quite daunting going into such a big school and I had to work hard for my place in the first XV, but the extra sessions with the coaches at lunchtimes helped me a lot and I think as the season went on I became more confident in my own ability.
“I was also involved in the Scotland Under-18 squad that year and that experience has helped me kick on this season.”
In 2014/15 Nairn has been the name on everyone’s lips in Scottish rugby. He scored two tries as his school team again won the Brewin Dolphin Scottish School Cup – beating Capital rivals Merchiston Castle in the final this time – and he has earned more caps for Scotland Under-18 and also turned out for Currie’s senior first XV.
“Playing for Currie in the BT Premiership was amazing. I was a bit nervous at first, but I enjoyed the outings and they really taught me about the physicality of senior rugby and how important it is to take your chances when they come as a winger,” he said.
“Off the back off the under-18 event in France in March and April I had a few discussions with Scotland Under-20s head coach Sean Lineen and he was keen to try and get me involved at that level.
“With the under-20s having such a good Six Nations with three wins I wasn’t sure if I’d make the squad for this summer’s World Championships in Italy, but when I got the call I was really chuffed.”
That event takes place in June and then Nairn will return to Edinburgh before again packing his bags and heading off to London where he will spend 2015/16 in the Harlequins Academy.
“It was a big decision for me and my family to make, but when we visited Harlequins and saw the facilities and the set-up there it just felt like the right place for me to continue my progress,” Nairn concluded.
He's certainly well thought of - will be interesting to see how he gets on in England.
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Well at Quins he can learn from some great wingers.... like Tim Visser!
It's a good move for him. Solomons would use Hidalgo-Clyne or Sam Beard on the wing rather than giving a youngster a shot - if I were a young up and coming SQ back I'd stay clear of Edinburgh personally, particularly with Helu, Allen and that big Fijian bloke coming onto the books. So no opportunities for young SQ players at this club.
It's a good move for him. Solomons would use Hidalgo-Clyne or Sam Beard on the wing rather than giving a youngster a shot - if I were a young up and coming SQ back I'd stay clear of Edinburgh personally, particularly with Helu, Allen and that big Fijian bloke coming onto the books. So no opportunities for young SQ players at this club.
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Shame to see Robinson going to Japan. Surely we could have offered him a contract with injury release clauses?! Still, the Japanese are probably offering him far more dosh than we could.
Naiyaravoro is an exciting prospect, but I'm not going to hold my breath. It wouldn't surprise me to see the Wallabies cap him simply to keep him there, which I suppose is no more cynical than us signing him on the condition he doesn't play for them.
Naiyaravoro is an exciting prospect, but I'm not going to hold my breath. It wouldn't surprise me to see the Wallabies cap him simply to keep him there, which I suppose is no more cynical than us signing him on the condition he doesn't play for them.
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funnyExiledScot wrote:Well at Quins he can learn from some great wingers.... like Tim Visser!
It's a good move for him. Solomons would use Hidalgo-Clyne or Sam Beard on the wing rather than giving a youngster a shot - if I were a young up and coming SQ back I'd stay clear of Edinburgh personally, particularly with Helu, Allen and that big Fijian bloke coming onto the books. So no opportunities for young SQ players at this club.
Irony?
I'm hopeful next year we'll see more of Sutherland, Watson, SHC, and maybe Hoyland & Dean. Part of Solly's remit needs to bring these young lads through, so fingers crossed he does that. Maybe a spot of rotation in his 3rd season might be possible.
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madmaccas wrote:
Naiyaravoro is an exciting prospect, but I'm not going to hold my breath. It wouldn't surprise me to see the Wallabies cap him simply to keep him there, which I suppose is no more cynical than us signing him on the condition he doesn't play for them.
I honestly think there is a good chance of that happening. Mind you didn't the Wallabies say they were going to relax their stance on players playing overseas? Is there not a chance he could sign for Edinburgh and then still end up getting capped by the wallabies? Maybe I dreamt this.
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Tim Visser apparently wrote chapter 8 ('Stone Wall: A Fullproof Guide to Impregnable Defence') of 'Rugby Coaching For Sheilas' by Scott Edna Everidge Johnson. They had to move Graham Morrison's chapter on 'crash ball masterclass' to accommodate it.
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