Monte Carlo Masters thread

by It Must Be Love Fri 10 Apr 2015, 11:16 pm

First topic message reminder :

http://www.montecarlorolexmasters.mc

All the top players are playing, with the exception of Andy Murray, who's busy getting married.

Beautiful tournament, love scenery, and a nice start to the European Clay Court season.

Monte Carlo Masters thread - Page 6 Mc71-112

Monte Carlo Masters thread - Page 6 Mc71-112

by Jahu Fri 17 Apr 2015, 3:54 pm

While I want Ferrero Rocher to win, I guess only Nadal can knock Djoko out, or maybe not even Nadal?

Maybe Ferrer can beat Djoko.

Too many maybes, Tennis is confusing when no strong Nadal or Fed Laugh

by Belovedluckyboy Fri 17 Apr 2015, 3:56 pm

Actually he's too defensive for my liking, he can play more offensively than that, but I guess he's still not confident enough to play that way. He's definitely a better player than Ferrer is on clay.

by It Must Be Love Fri 17 Apr 2015, 3:57 pm

Jahu wrote:While I want Ferrero Rocher to win, I guess only Nadal can knock Djoko out, or maybe not even Nadal?

Maybe Ferrer can beat Djoko.

Too many maybes, Tennis is confusing when no strong Nadal or Fed

The player with the best chance of beating Djokovic in Monte Carlo is my second favourite player.

by Belovedluckyboy Fri 17 Apr 2015, 4:00 pm

Notice that Rafa's FH DTL is almost non existent; he always go CC and that gives Ferrer all the chances to hit those angles!

by Jahu Fri 17 Apr 2015, 4:03 pm

It Must Be Love wrote:
Jahu wrote:While I want Ferrero Rocher to win, I guess only Nadal can knock Djoko out, or maybe not even Nadal?

Maybe Ferrer can beat Djoko.

Too many maybes, Tennis is confusing when no strong Nadal or Fed
The player with the best chance of beating Djokovic in Monte Carlo is my second favourite player.

Who, Ferrer?

Monfils if in a good mood can trash Djoko, but those moods are rare, one a tournament.

by It Must Be Love Fri 17 Apr 2015, 4:04 pm

Jahu wrote:
It Must Be Love wrote:
Jahu wrote:While I want Ferrero Rocher to win, I guess only Nadal can knock Djoko out, or maybe not even Nadal?

Maybe Ferrer can beat Djoko.

Too many maybes, Tennis is confusing when no strong Nadal or Fed
The player with the best chance of beating Djokovic in Monte Carlo is my second favourite player.

Who, Ferrer?

Monfils if in a good mood can trash Djoko, but those moods are rare, one a tournament.

Lol, Ferrer is not my second favourite player.

by Jahu Fri 17 Apr 2015, 4:09 pm

Yeah yeah, only ladies like Ferrer Whistle

Though i respect him for best behavior on tour and but boring as hell.

by It Must Be Love Fri 17 Apr 2015, 4:25 pm

Apart from becoming really passive at 5-4 second set, it's not been a bad display from Nadal.
Ferrer has been great, I wouldn't even put a comeback past him now give what we've seen so far.

Nadal will be exhausted for tomorrow's semi vs Djokovic even if he gets through here.

by temporary21 Fri 17 Apr 2015, 4:31 pm

Hes done it. Thats a great great response from practically choking away the second set. Unlike in Miami and Indian Wells he responded brilliantly.
and Daveed... I dont care who knocks you for your style, youre a superstar Bubbly

by Josiah Maiestas Fri 17 Apr 2015, 4:33 pm

Don't be boring temp, that match was an abomination and typical of both their careers in this sport.

The real tournament begins tomorrow Ale

by temporary21 Fri 17 Apr 2015, 4:49 pm

Their superbly successful careers full of hard work giving it all and the respect of all the reasonable tennis world? Damn right it is

by Jahu Fri 17 Apr 2015, 4:58 pm

Yeah temp21, stop making sense and be outraged, dammit.

by Belovedluckyboy Fri 17 Apr 2015, 5:24 pm

I thought Rafa has it in the bag when he's up 3-0 in the second set, but typical of Ferrer, he fought back and Rafa got nervous when serving for the match,typical of him these days, and what seemed like a 1 and a half hours match ended up lasting close to three hours.

Fortunately for Rafa, this time he's able to win in the end. Rafa really likes sufferings, and makes life difficult for himself.

Had Rafa won it in straight sets, I would fancy him beating Novak tomorrow. Now? Novak is a much better version of the aggressive Ferrer, won't miss anything, serves and returns much better, I think if Rafa carries on playing so defensively, there's only one sure winner and that's Novak.

Well, at least Rafa reaches the SF here and so gains points and moves back to top four. He has to up his level many notches tomorrow if he wants to beat Novak...

by Haddie-nuff Fri 17 Apr 2015, 7:53 pm

Silver wrote:
Haddie-nuff wrote:He was outplayed why could he just not admit that

Enjoy:

Federer wrote:“This is not going to put me under too much. I know it's the first tournament on clay. Of course, I was really hoping to do better because I felt there was an opportunity. Unfortunately, Gaël played well today. It was always going to be a tough match.”

As he says, it was down to both him and Monfils. It often takes two to tango in a result like this.

Good to see Monfils following it up today though, wow! Awesome result. He must fancy his chances of turning Berdych over on clay.

No I didn't enjoy saying Gael played well was not the same as saying he was outplayed AND HE WAS

by lags72 Fri 17 Apr 2015, 9:34 pm

You really are hard to please H-n !

Would it perhaps help if Mr. Federer cleared any post-match comments with you first, so that he could then choose an exact form of words which would be guaranteed to keep you happy ....?

I'd like to think - although, tbh, I have my doubts - that you :

a) apply the same rigorous analysis to presser answers/comments made by all other players on the tour immediately in the wake of a defeat, and
b) are as quick to voice your dislike if/when their assessment doesn't fully synchronise with your personal views

by Jahu Fri 17 Apr 2015, 9:56 pm

Nice weekend gift for HN this analysis, food for thought for her, but she is on permanent diet Laugh

by Haddie-nuff Fri 17 Apr 2015, 11:50 pm

lags72 wrote:You really are hard to please H-n !

Would it perhaps help if Mr. Federer cleared any post-match comments with you first, so that he could then choose an exact form of words which would be guaranteed to keep you happy ....?

I'd like to think - although, tbh, I have my doubts - that you :

a) apply the same rigorous analysis to presser answers/comments made by all other players on the tour immediately in the wake of a defeat, and
b) are as quick to voice your dislike if/when their assessment doesn't fully synchronise with your personal views

Even if I said I did you would not believe me so there is little point. You accuse me of judgement yet you are doing the same thing are you not?? double standards? No just childish.

by lags72 Sat 18 Apr 2015, 12:28 am

Wow.

I am labelled "childish" merely for asking whether you apply the same criteria to all players, or whether perhaps you are singling out Federer for special criticism .....? It's entirely up to you to apply different standards to him if you so wish.

I can't help wondering if you are equally quick to label people as "childish" in your private life.

Honestly H-n, I really don't know what's got into you in recent weeks/months ........ Headscratch

by LuvSports! Sat 18 Apr 2015, 12:33 am

uh oh....

by Haddie-nuff Sat 18 Apr 2015, 12:38 am

You neither lags... you are accusing me on the one hand of being judgemental regarding Federer and what the hell do you think you doing.
Your accusatory tone would put anyone on the defense.

I told you I would apply those standards to any player but that I doubt very much if you would believe me.. there seemed to be a touch of the nah na na na nah In your post which came across as childish., I stand by what I said.it was not an opinion but a statement of fact.. he said Gael played well... well that could have been said if Gael had lost.. he did not say Gael played better than me but instead went on to say all the things HE did wrong. Sorry but I though it ungracious. Gael soundly beat him end of

by Haddie-nuff Sat 18 Apr 2015, 12:40 am

@lags

I can't help wondering if you are equally quick to label people as "childish" in your private life

Below the belt and not worthy of you warning

by lags72 Sat 18 Apr 2015, 12:48 am

I give up H-n.

Really not worth the trouble.

by Haddie-nuff Sat 18 Apr 2015, 12:50 am

No the hole is too big, don't blame you for not digging any further.
Not even an apology for your last comment...speaks volumes picard

by Henman Bill Sat 18 Apr 2015, 1:01 am

Anyone who uses the hole/digging comment immediately goes down in my estimation a slight notch...it is a way of trying to strengthen your argument cheaply with no substance.

Why are you asking for an apology. You are the one who seems to have insulted the other party and been just as assertive. I am sorry but you were at least half at fault for this argument. Silly argument anyway.

by Haddie-nuff Sat 18 Apr 2015, 1:06 am

Henman Bill wrote:Anyone who uses the hole/digging comment immediately goes down in my estimation a slight notch...it is a way of trying to strengthen your argument cheaply with no substance.

Why are you asking for an apology. You are the one who seems to have insulted the other party and been just as assertive. I am sorry but you were at least half at fault for this argument. Silly argument anyway.

WHO is asking you anyway

I can't help wondering if you are equally quick to label people as "childish" in your private life

That comment is uncalled for we are not discussing my private life
And for your information I don't give a monkeys what you think of me...I DONT THINK ABOUT YOU AT ALL

by LuvSports! Sat 18 Apr 2015, 1:14 am

by Guest82 Sat 18 Apr 2015, 6:58 am

Nadal is 2/1 with the bookies.

I wonder when the last time was he was 2/1 for a match on clay? Must be over ten years.

by Josiah Maiestas Sat 18 Apr 2015, 10:25 am

Berdych v Monfils

Head to head 5-1 for Berdych however the only meeting on clay resulted in a 5 set win for Gaël. For the purpose of a decent final the frenchman needs to win imo.

by temporary21 Sat 18 Apr 2015, 1:19 pm

Lags, Haddie if you counter a perceived insult with another insult, the outcome shouldn't be surprising to either of you. We have a system for that here.

Berdych serving for the match here...

by Jahu Sat 18 Apr 2015, 1:20 pm

Berdy takes it, Monfils flast after 2 good matches.

Go NADAL GOOOO!!!!!!

by Jahu Sat 18 Apr 2015, 2:47 pm

Thats it, break him badly.

by Jahu Sat 18 Apr 2015, 2:52 pm

Break him again!!!

by kingraf Sat 18 Apr 2015, 2:54 pm

Given the struggles Federer and Djokovic showed in getting to grips with a new racquet, Nadal's "business as usual" manner has been a little bit of a shock

by LuvSports! Sat 18 Apr 2015, 3:00 pm

by Jahu Sat 18 Apr 2015, 3:01 pm

Djoko with 2 cockroaches in the box, not fair!!

Nadal loses serve.

by kingraf Sat 18 Apr 2015, 3:03 pm

Bad miss from Rafa to give up the break

by Jahu Sat 18 Apr 2015, 3:07 pm

So young ball boys, the last one, 10? Hope Djoko behaves and does not scare them Laugh

by Jahu Sat 18 Apr 2015, 3:10 pm

ohohoh what a FH, keep it up.

by Jahu Sat 18 Apr 2015, 3:22 pm

Come on, crush him right in the middle of his little tax-free hide out boxing

by Jahu Sat 18 Apr 2015, 3:27 pm

From 2:0 to 3:6, wake up Nadal, this ain't a 5 setter.

by Belovedluckyboy Sat 18 Apr 2015, 3:30 pm

Rafa's returns are really poor, why is he standing so far behind the baseline? He's mishitting so many returns, better go back and works on his returns. He can't beat Novak for depth, standing so far behind the baseline. Novak even have a more powerful FH than Rafa's!

by kingraf Sat 18 Apr 2015, 3:52 pm

People do have to remember it's a new racquet. Probably not willing to stand to close with unfamiliar weaponry

by Belovedluckyboy Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:01 pm

Rafa only has his CCFH. Novak is always camping there to return it, CC or DTL. Novak certainly has more options than Rafa does. Rafa really has to work so hard to hold his service games! Novak clearly has the upper hand in this match. Too bad for Rafa.

by temporary21 Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:03 pm

Novak has the upper hand in most matches nowadays. He's just that good at the moment

by TRuffin Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:10 pm

Belovedluckyboy wrote:Rafa only has his CCFH. Novak is always camping there to return it, CC or DTL. Novak certainly has more options than Rafa does. Rafa really has to work so hard to hold his service games! Novak clearly has the upper hand in this match. Too bad for Rafa.

Now you know how Federer fans feel when he plays Rafa :-)

by Belovedluckyboy Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:12 pm

Yeah, but Rafa doesn't have a DTL shot and he can only go CC, very much like in 2011 all over again.

by Jahu Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:13 pm

This is all over.

Come on Berdych!!! (never thought I would say this) Laugh

by Belovedluckyboy Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:14 pm

Nah, Rafa has his FHDTL but he's not using it at the moment, as he's lacking in confidence. Don't forget he used that shot to beat Novak at the FO last year!

by Jahu Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:23 pm

So this is the kind of breathless tennis quality we can expect to see for next 2-3 years of Djoko domination?

Might as well start following Curling.

by CaledonianCraig Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:24 pm

No disaster losing to Novak for Rafa. In my opinion his problem is clearly mental and that has long been the biggest strength of his - total belief. That isn't there just now and we all know Novak is one of the very best clay courters in the world and world No.1. No disgrace.

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