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Post by Prometheus Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:20 pm

The curb stomp was great, it can still be great. But as WWE champion Rollins needs more. I was watching some of the Attitude Era Raws that WWE put up on their Network yesterday, with Ken Shamrock in, and I came to the conclusion that the ankle-lock could suit Rollins.

As a heel, I think it allows Rollins to work on the opponents ankle during a match, e.g. wrap it round the ring post. It is a move that can be applied with pure aggression to try to snap an opponent's bones. And I think the visual really works as you can get a clear look at the faces of both men.

Just a thought of something that WWE could recycle and I think would fit well to Rollins' character.

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Post by nadeem2099 Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:58 pm

Doesn't Jack Swagger already do the ankle lock though?
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Post by Fernando Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:59 pm

Surely if going to set up for a Curbstomp maybe a Crossface or Dragon Sleeper would be more suitable.

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Post by Prometheus Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:01 pm

nadeem2099 wrote:Doesn't Jack Swagger already do the ankle lock though?

I'd forgotten all about Jack Swagger when I wrote that. What a fall he's had in the last year from the over Real Americans to being the person Rusev beats up when he has nothing else to do. But good point!
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Post by Samo Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:18 pm

I like the idea of giving him a submission move, but I dont think he has the size to pull off a move like a crossface or an STF and make it look legit, but at the same time it shouldnt be something boring like an Armbar.

Maybe something like a Dragon Clutch or a Guillotine Choke.

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Post by JoshSansom Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:47 pm

I like the Curb Stomp... it is easy to set up in a number of ways, looks vicious and can be delivered to any size of opponent.

I think it can be a move with a similar impact for him as the RKO is for Orton, synonymous with his style.

I would eventually add in a top rope variant for shock / big match factor, a recognised top rope move if/when he turns face and also some kind of DDT variant to deliver in an impactful fashion.

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Post by Hero Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:17 pm

how about a MMA style Guillotine or Rear Naked Choke?

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Post by The_Enigma Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:57 pm

JoshSansom wrote:I would eventually add in a top rope variant for shock / big match factor, a recognised top rope move if/when he turns face and also some kind of DDT variant to deliver in an impactful fashion.

Wait until you seem him pull out the Phoenix Splash!

The RKO reference is really spot on though, an instant strike that can fit into almost any match structure against any sized opponent. Now moving onto submissions, the Crossface is a great call and it's about time it was brought back into a WWE. Size really is irrelevant to apply the hold

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Post by RinoGattuso Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:25 am

He'd do well with the armbreaker thing that Pentagon Jr uses in Lucha Underground

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Post by Kay Fabe Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:38 am

I don't really think a submission move fits with his character, I could see DeanAmbrose using the Crossface or a Chicken Wing and being all wild when he does.

I really like the Curb Stomp, in reality its quite a brutal thing to do to someone and its a move he can hit on absolutely anyone which helps no end

I think he could add another finisher from the top rope due to his natural athleticism but I don't think its a big issue for now

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Post by Prometheus Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:39 am

The_Enigma wrote:
JoshSansom wrote:I would eventually add in a top rope variant for shock / big match factor, a recognised top rope move if/when he turns face and also some kind of DDT variant to deliver in an impactful fashion.

Wait until you seem him pull out the Phoenix Splash!

The RKO reference is really spot on though, an instant strike that can fit into almost any match structure against any sized opponent. Now moving onto submissions, the Crossface is a great call and it's about time it was brought back into a WWE. Size really is irrelevant to apply the hold

Didn't he pull it out at the Rumble? It felt like Cena was the other side of the ring when he went for it, so I was thinking that it would only be a tease. I agree that it is a complete face move though, so I'd be happy with him keeping it in his pocket for now.
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Post by Samo Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:56 am

Im sure he hit it at the Rumble. Gives me an excuse to go back and watch it again.

The curb stomp only works as a finisher for me when he's working with someone who knows how to sell it. IE not Cena.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:36 pm

The chicken wing suits Ambrose more than anyone since Backlund. Would be perfect

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Post by JoshSansom Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:53 pm

Kay Fabe wrote:I don't really think a submission move fits with his character, I could see DeanAmbrose using the Crossface or a Chicken Wing and being all wild when he does.

I really like the Curb Stomp, in reality its quite a brutal thing to do to someone and its a move he can hit on absolutely anyone which helps no end

I think he could add another finisher from the top rope due to his natural athleticism but I don't think its a big issue for now

We are totally on the same page there Fabe!! Very Happy Cool

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