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Post by Ent Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:36 am

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Missed the game today Sad great result!

City have bought terribly since they won the title in 11/12, 100s of millions and no real certain starters or class players introduced.

They've prospered in a relative decline of the pl, picking up the top players from the non top 4 and the sub elite Europeans was good enough as a base but they didn't kick on and it has showed in Europe and this season.

6 wins in a row for United, city, Spurs and Liverpool in that run.

Top 4 all but secured, big test next week against chelsea.

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Post by Fernando Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:59 pm

Everton starting XI: Howard, Baines, Stones, Jagielka, Coleman, Barry, McCarthy, Osman, Barkley, Lennon, Lukaku
Everton subs: Joel, Kone, Mirallas, Naismith, Besic, Garbutt, Alcaraz

Manchester United starting XI: De Gea, Valencia, Smalling, McNair, Shaw, Blind, Herrera, Mata, Fellaini, Young, Rooney
Man Utd subs: Valdes, Di Maria, Falcao, Januzaj, Van Persie, Blackett, Pereira

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:30 pm

Douchebags can't even observe a minute silence some people
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:36 pm

Daley Blind/McNair with the combined tackling strength of a fairy
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Post by hampo17 Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:37 pm

Blind has to try and make the tackle in that situation, didn't even try. Might give away a penalty but by not attempting the challenge he just lets him through on goal.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:05 am

Do love me some John stones
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Post by hampo17 Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:05 am

Dreadful defending that.

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Post by kingraf Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:07 am

Not bothering to defend set pieces = #ThugLife
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Post by Guest Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:22 am

Sense some complacency setting in now for United, now they know a top 4 is pretty much in the bag.

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Post by hampo17 Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:28 am

14/1 with Betfair now for United to win, 5/1 for the draw.

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Post by kingraf Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:31 am

14/1 is great odds... But I suspect you'd find throwing your money into a well more likely to bear fruit. 5/1 is a little more interesting. Not enough to entice me, but interesting nonetheless
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:02 am

Game. Over.

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Post by Ent Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:17 am

Haven't seen the game but a real shame this reault, think anyone could have told you how everton would play and we've played into their hands (well according to the reports).

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:19 am

Awful performance, the offside rule is fundamentally wrong when that third goal can stand, doesn't excuse the defence standing still.

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Post by nadeem2099 Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:25 am

How on earth is Ashley Young still playing for United? One of the worst wingers I have ever seen. Everton absolutely dominated them.
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:26 am

Presume that is the only game of his you've seen this season then.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:27 am

Young has been fantastic this season

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:30 am

Yeah, Young has been top dollar for a while now.

Post bird sh!t, anyway.

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:30 am

Nothing wrong with that rule, the United defence went to sleep, Miralles came from behind the half way line & ran onto it. United have just come unstuck because their usual tactic of lumping it to Fellaini has now been exhausted & found out. Just predictable & a serious lack of pace. Young has been fantastic but I'm amazed nobody knows that all he does is run at you & then cut back on his right every time.


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Post by nadeem2099 Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:31 am

I just don't think he is good enough for United ability wise. Sure he puts in the effort but all I ever see him do is cross and try and beat his man which he can hardly do.
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Post by hampo17 Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:32 am

When do you become active with play? The ball is certainly played to Lukaku, he is within two yards of the ball. United have played pretty much a perfect offside rule and been done by a daft grey area in the law.

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:34 am

How have they been done, if you switch off for Lukaku & don't look across the whole line or see other runners, that's your own fault. I see no issue, other than a defensive switch off & players looking at the ground & not doing their complete job. Play to the flag or whistle

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:35 am

That isn't primarily how we've played recently Liam, without Carrick we lack control going forward which is the bigger problem, Fellaini is an option rather than the focal point.

Crap performance but could just be complacency.

Lukaku is clearly offside and the rule is wrong, doesn't change the outcome of the match but it's something that needs sorting out, you can't allow an offside player to chase the ball, realise the defence has pushed up so he leaves it and then carry on.

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Post by hampo17 Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:36 am

As HH, as soon as Lukaku makes his initial move for that ball he's active and interfering with play, hence he's offside. Daft grey area that really needs sorting.

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Post by Ent Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:41 am

Sounds like a mistake from the official rather than a grey area.

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Post by hampo17 Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:43 am

Well the grey area is, as I posted before, when does a player become active? Liam clearly feels he wasn't active, both myself and HH, probably a few others as well, feel he was.

They need to do away with that stupid part of the rule, should always be if you're offside, you're offside. Non of this active rubbish.

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Post by nadeem2099 Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:44 am

Also Youngs statistics are nothing to be proud of. 22 games played, 2 goals and 3 assists. That is not United level.
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:47 am

I'll use my eyes thanks Nadeem, basing an opinion on one game is stupid.

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Post by nadeem2099 Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:03 am

And 2 of them assists were from the game vs City. I don't watch all Man United matches but is he good enough to be a starter for United? It's not a coincidence that United are interested in Depay. What does he bring to the United lineup that someone like Aaron Lennon, who has similar stats this season wouldn't. He is overrated imo. If united get Depay at the eos, it will be a good thing for their title hopes next season.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:11 am

Football isn't played on a stat sheet
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Post by Guest Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:12 am

He's not overrated either. You need to be rated highly in the first place, which he hasn't been since his Villa days.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:17 am

That's as blatant a penalty as you'll ever see
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Post by Guest Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:18 am

Schumachered!

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Post by NickisBHAFC Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:21 am

Chelsea been denied 2 penalties early on imo.

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Post by hampo17 Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:22 am

NickisBHAFC wrote:Chelsea been denied 2 penalties early on imo.

Where was the other one? Not the tap on the shoulder when Oscar tried to be Tom Daley?

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:25 am

That was a foul (Cazorla on Cesc)

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Post by hampo17 Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:26 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:That was a foul

Yeah, daft to book him. Maybe reputation going before what actually happens.

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Post by nadeem2099 Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:36 am

Handball by Cahill?
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Post by CFCNick Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:54 am

nadeem2099 wrote:Handball by Cahill?

Behave yourself.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:54 am

It kinda was...

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Post by CFCNick Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:55 am

Can't give that. It's incidental contact.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:57 am

Ospina's diving headbutt was the only penalty - ref has been spot on otherwise
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:00 am

Incidental? Keep your hands down!

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Post by hampo17 Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:02 am

Looks like it deflected of his leg first, can't really give that.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:05 am

I dont think his hands should be up like that when blocking an effort. Completely unnatural position and a bit lucky to get away with it

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:49 am

Arsenal fans booing Fabregas should've had there tickets taken away - idiots
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Post by hampo17 Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:50 am

Olly wrote:Arsenal fans booing Fabregas should've had there tickets taken away - idiots

Quickly turned in to applause in fairness.

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Post by CFCNick Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:57 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:I dont think his hands should be up like that when blocking an effort. Completely unnatural position and a bit lucky to get away with it

When you drop down to make a block in the way Cahill did your back arm always goes up like that for balance.

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:00 am

As expected, a top class defensive performance. Job well done from Mourinho, another league title in the bag

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Post by LastDamnation Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:01 am

Olly wrote:Arsenal fans booing Fabregas should've had there tickets taken away - idiots

Really? The way he left the club was completely classless, and he's shown how little respect he has for the club with his dive today

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Post by NickisBHAFC Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:02 am

Arsenal fans booing Fabergas is shameful, well done to the good fans for appaulding. 

Don't get there chants of boring boring chelsea. Honestly what did they expect? Chelsea to go all out attack and send every player forward? There is a reason why wenger can never beat Jose.

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