Anyone actually rooting for Floyd to win on Saturday ?

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Interesting to know why if clicking yes, been watching clips of the build up and it reminded me of what an odious character he is.

I'd have no issue with anyone putting Mayweather top ten. If Jofre, Tunney, Whitaker, Ross, Moore etc can make various people's top tens without anyone really batting an eye lid then so can Mayweather. At the very least, he's comparable with all of those names.

Similarly, I've got no issues with anyone putting him outside the top ten as long as they don't act like putting him inside it would be totally unreasonable or a sign of a lack of knowledge etc. Always a subjective thing, ranking the greats, and while there are probably something like five, maybe six names who'd make absolutely everybody's (well, about ninety percent of people, anyhow) top ten list, such as your Robinsons, Armstrongs, Grebs etc, there are probably something like twenty-odd names who could all legitimately be placed in any of the following five spots with a compelling argument behind them.

Some claims might be generally considered stronger than others, some you'd agree with, some you'd disagree with, but you couldn't really dismiss them totally out of hand. Mayweather clearly belongs in that bracket, for me. Perhaps not an automatic top tenner but a legitimate candidate for it.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

AdamT wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

AdamT wrote:floyd looks scared. Manny is his usual self.

Floyd just teeing up a post-boxing Hollywood acting career.

All a charade, always is with Floyd.  Like his open training sessions. Only numpties buy into it.

Do you think it is an act, for more people to be believe he will lose and pay for the fight?

Think he genuinely is a bit nervous myself.

Brace yourself Adam...............If Manny wins there is going to be an awful lot of "I told you Mayweather was a fraud"....

All his achievements will be soon forgotten............

Yawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!

"Alvarez is a zombie".................."Floyd only wins because of catchweight"

Good job no one takes you seriously............Ever seen that film 2010 ??

TopHat24/7 wrote:

AdamT wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

AdamT wrote:floyd looks scared. Manny is his usual self.

Floyd just teeing up a post-boxing Hollywood acting career.

All a charade, always is with Floyd.  Like his open training sessions. Only numpties buy into it.

Do you think it is an act, for more people to be believe he will lose and pay for the fight?

Think he genuinely is a bit nervous myself.

I think it's all part of the boxing field which Floyd is a complete expert in.  Never shy on confidence and totally calculating - there must be a reason he retired in 08-11 but was chasing Manny to his hotel room in 2015.

His open training sessions are a perfect example. A mate of mine posted a vid on Facebook, some complete numpty taken in by Floyd slow tippy-tapping the heavy bag compared to Manny unleashing two fists of fury - "oh look, Floyd is so slow and training so poorly but Manny looks on fire".  Floyd never gives away his secrets in open training sessions, it's part of why nobody has ever worked him out (irrespective of ODLH harping on about 'gameplan' every bloody fight).

All an act.

He has weighed up the risk for reward and is cashing out?

You think he will win?

I still pick him to win but I did think he looked bit anxious. Perhaps it is an act.

88Chris05 wrote:I'd have no issue with anyone putting Mayweather top ten. If Jofre, Tunney, Whitaker, Ross, Moore etc can make various people's top tens without anyone really batting an eye lid then so can Mayweather. At the very least, he's comparable with all of those names.

Similarly, I've got no issues with anyone putting him outside the top ten as long as they don't act like putting him inside it would be totally unreasonable or a sign of a lack of knowledge etc. Always a subjective thing, ranking the greats, and while there are probably something like five, maybe six names who'd make absolutely everybody's (well, about ninety percent of people, anyhow) top ten list, such as your Robinsons, Armstrongs, Grebs etc, there are probably something like twenty-odd names who could all legitimately be placed in any of the following five spots with a compelling argument behind them.

Some claims might be generally considered stronger than others, some you'd agree with, some you'd disagree with, but you couldn't really dismiss them totally out of hand. Mayweather clearly belongs in that bracket, for me. Perhaps not an automatic top tenner but a legitimate candidate for it.

I agree with this............I don't mind resoned logic.....

But articles like "Mayweather-Maidana shows Floyd isn't top 10" When he was 37 and most of this p***ks top 10 were either retired or getting hammered at that age.......... just makes you know it's personal !!....

If there's one thing I've learnt about pre fight build up, it's that reading anything into it is a futile process.

Scottrf wrote:If there's one thing I've learnt about pre fight build up, it's that reading anything into it is a futile process.

Bowe's press conferences were always fun though..

Adam you haven't been watching boxing for long have you?

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

AdamT wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

AdamT wrote:floyd looks scared. Manny is his usual self.

Floyd just teeing up a post-boxing Hollywood acting career.

All a charade, always is with Floyd.  Like his open training sessions. Only numpties buy into it.

Do you think it is an act, for more people to be believe he will lose and pay for the fight?

Think he genuinely is a bit nervous myself.

Brace yourself Adam...............If Manny wins there is going to be an awful lot of "I told you Mayweather was a fraud"....

All his achievements will be soon forgotten............

Yawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!

"Alvarez is a zombie".................."Floyd only wins because of catchweight"

Good job no one takes you seriously............Ever seen that film 2010 ??

Care to quote me on any of that?

HINT: You can't, because it's BS like 99% of your arguments.

This is a pretty good article actually:

http://www.mightyfighter.com/manny-pacquiao-vs-floyd-mayweather-jr-analysis/

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Adam you haven't been watching boxing for long have you?

25 years

AdamT wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

AdamT wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

AdamT wrote:floyd looks scared. Manny is his usual self.

Floyd just teeing up a post-boxing Hollywood acting career.

All a charade, always is with Floyd.  Like his open training sessions. Only numpties buy into it.

Do you think it is an act, for more people to be believe he will lose and pay for the fight?

Think he genuinely is a bit nervous myself.

I think it's all part of the boxing field which Floyd is a complete expert in.  Never shy on confidence and totally calculating - there must be a reason he retired in 08-11 but was chasing Manny to his hotel room in 2015.

His open training sessions are a perfect example. A mate of mine posted a vid on Facebook, some complete numpty taken in by Floyd slow tippy-tapping the heavy bag compared to Manny unleashing two fists of fury - "oh look, Floyd is so slow and training so poorly but Manny looks on fire".  Floyd never gives away his secrets in open training sessions, it's part of why nobody has ever worked him out (irrespective of ODLH harping on about 'gameplan' every bloody fight).

All an act.

He has weighed up the risk for reward and is cashing out?

You think he will win?

I still pick him to win but I did think he looked bit anxious. Perhaps it is an act.

I thought it was 55:45 in his favour 08-11 and it's 65:35 if not better now. Time was always going to flavour the guy who's ability to win wasn't based on speed output and power.

25 years and you put so much emphasise on press conferences and things, tend to think you're deliberately stacking the deck against Mayweather so you can big the win up even more.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

AdamT wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

AdamT wrote:floyd looks scared. Manny is his usual self.

Floyd just teeing up a post-boxing Hollywood acting career.

All a charade, always is with Floyd.  Like his open training sessions. Only numpties buy into it.

Do you think it is an act, for more people to be believe he will lose and pay for the fight?

Think he genuinely is a bit nervous myself.

Brace yourself Adam...............If Manny wins there is going to be an awful lot of "I told you Mayweather was a fraud"....

All his achievements will be soon forgotten............

Yawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!

"Alvarez is a zombie".................."Floyd only wins because of catchweight"

Good job no one takes you seriously............Ever seen that film 2010 ??

Care to quote me on any of that?

HINT: You can't, because it's BS like 99% of your arguments.

Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnn !!

don't particuarly watch press conferences with that much interest.

No I still think Floyd will stop Manny.

Just think he is slightly more nervous than usual. The whole world is watching and he is favourite. Maybe he is just extremley focused.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:25 years and you put so much emphasise on press conferences and things, tend to think you're deliberately stacking the deck against Mayweather so you can big the win up even more.

Press conferences don't tell us anything..............I remember when Ratcliff was threatening he was going batter the little girl Tyson and Mike just sat there like a compliant schoolboy............

Never seen anybody run so fast in my life come fight night...

Maybe none of it matters in the slightest and as Scott says is futile reading anything in to.

Lonnie Smith v Chavez is another fave...............Smith threatening him and having to be dragged back by his handlers from attacking Julio.........Who spent the whole time p**sing himself laughing...........

In fairness though press conferences can help a guy get an edge..........

Leonard was psyched out by Duran in their first fight press conference.......

Tate spent the whole of his conference speeches saying he was going to track the runner Olajide down and bust him up...........Then never took a forward step and boxed a clinic on fight night.....Olajide later said he trained for a different fight..(Said he was overtrained too).......Actually came from Liverpool did Michael!!

Hammersmith harrier wrote:25 years and you put so much emphasise on press conferences and things, tend to think you're deliberately stacking the deck against Mayweather so you can big the win up even more.

Otherwise known as 'doing a Truss'.

I am not bigging it up.

Floyd will win in my opinion. Just saying the guy looks nervous. It isn't an excuse.

If Manny wins he is the better man for f..k sake. I have always stated this

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Maybe none of it matters in the slightest and as Scott says is futile reading anything in to.

Exactly.

Tophat is covering his basis well. He says Floyd will win but secretly is praying for a Manny win.

Then he will be on here stating how overrated Floyd is if he is beat.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

AdamT wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

AdamT wrote:floyd looks scared. Manny is his usual self.

Floyd just teeing up a post-boxing Hollywood acting career.



All a charade, always is with Floyd.  Like his open training sessions. Only numpties buy into it.

Do you think it is an act, for more people to be believe he will lose and pay for the fight?

Think he genuinely is a bit nervous myself.

I think it's all part of the boxing field which Floyd is a complete expert in.  Never shy on confidence and totally calculating - there must be a reason he retired in 08-11 but was chasing Manny to his hotel room in 2015.

His open training sessions are a perfect example. A mate of mine posted a vid on Facebook, some complete numpty taken in by Floyd slow tippy-tapping the heavy bag compared to Manny unleashing two fists of fury - "oh look, Floyd is so slow and training so poorly but Manny looks on fire".  Floyd never gives away his secrets in open training sessions, it's part of why nobody has ever worked him out (irrespective of ODLH harping on about 'gameplan' every bloody fight).

All an act.

Saw the exact same video on my facebook feed put up by someone saying more than less the exact same thing.
It's meant to fool and it has.

Pedro147 wrote:

Nico the gman wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:Mayweather is like Cristiano Ronaldo...widely admired for his undeniable ability yet possibly one of the most disliked people in his profession

Absolutely spot on.

Rubbish.


Cristiano Ronaldo may not be everybody’s cup of tea but you cannot fault that he is a giving soul.

Real Madrid star Ronaldo is seen by many as an arrogant, self-important primadonna.

His sublime football talents are often overshadowed by his apparent yearning for individuality and the fact he spends more time preening himself in front of the mirror than working with his teammates on the training pitch.

From my point of view, that is the pre-conceived perception of Ronaldo from a lot of football fans and the general public who do not take the time to look past the model features he possesses, the occasional tantrum he throws when in the heat of battle or the ease in which he sometimes falls to the ground when under pressure from a defender.

What many do not know about the Portuguese ace is that he is a genuinely generous role model who donates money as well as endless time to a number of charities around the world.

Sure, Ronaldo may have an estimated wealth of over £120million, a plethora of sports cars and a museum named after him but his philanthropic nature is almost impossible to deny.

There have been a string of cases throughout his career where Ronaldo has given to the needy, helped the sick and kind-heartedly assisted those less fortunate in a time where footballers appear to be happy with their lot and out of touch with society.

Ronaldo raised funds for the reconstruction of Aceh, Indonesia following the 2004 earthquake and tsunami, donated the payout he received from a libel case to a charity in his home city of Madeira and has been involved in a number of other organisations on the Portuguese island and in other areas of this vast land.

Two of the most heart-warming acts performed by the FIFA Ballon d’Or winner has been to help the lives of two young boys battling life-threatening conditions.

In 2012, Ronaldo met a nine-year old Canaria native who was suffering from cancer of the spine and offered to pay for experimental drugs to aid his recovery.

The Real Madrid fan, Nuhazet Guillen, tragically lost his battle in 2013 but that does not change the fact that Ronaldo did what he could to support somebody he did not personally know previously.

Earlier in 2014, Ronaldo was contacted by the parents of a 10-month old Spanish boy named Erik Ortiz Cruz who required a brain operation in order to save his life.

Erik’s parents only asked for the former Manchester United ace to donate a football shirt and boots to a charity auction to raise funds for the surgery but he went one step further and told them he would pay for the procedure and accompanying treatment.

Ronaldo paid for the entire £50,000 operation and also copped the bill for further management of the youngster’s situation which cost £5,000 per session.

At the 2014 World Cup in Brazil, Ronaldo was seen sporting a zig-zag style haircut which also attracted negative criticism from many. Little did they know the gesture was to honour Erik who came out of his surgery with similar scars on the right side of his head.

Some may see Ronaldo’s actions as only a small tremor on his seismic financial Richter scale while others could blame him for performing PR stunts to improve his popularity but the simple thing is, the sublimely talented player does not need to offer his money or time for media attention. It is because of goodwill and a massive heart.

Ronaldo is also one of few modern day footballers who has refrained from being tattooed in the name of fashion.

The reason why: “I don’t have tattoos because I donate blood very often,” he once said, according to Diretta News.

Ronaldo gives blood twice a year and wants to avoid the cross-contamination and potential diseases that come with having your body inked. Another truly noble cause from the 29-year old winger.

The man never calls for his charity work to be in the public eye. Celebrity causes website Looktothestars.org lists Ronaldo as being involved in the following major charitable organisations:

- Aid Still Required – (‘A non-profit corporation, founded to champion forgotten issues and people left behind after natural disasters and other crises’)

- Cahonas Scotland – (‘A Male Cancer Awareness Charity in Scotland’)

- Save the Children – (‘Creating real and lasting change for children in need in the United States and around the world’)

- UNICEF – (‘To improve children’s lives, providing health care and immunizations, clean water and sanitation, nutrition, education, emergency relief and more.’)

- World Vision – (‘A relief and development organization dedicated to helping children and their communities worldwide reach their full potential by tackling the causes of poverty.’)

Not many people would know these facts nor would they be aware that Ronaldo has a long list of causes that he supports including abuse, adoption, AIDS & HIV, cancer, disaster relief, education, health, human rights, poverty, slavery & human trafficking. He doesn’t boast or ram it down the public’s throat that he is a part of these honorable foundations and causes.

In 2012, he sold the Golden Boot he won in 2011 for €1.5million to donate the funds to Palestinian school children in Gaza and is also involved in FIFA’s ’11 for Health’ which aims to raise awareness to children regarding drug addiction, HIV and obesity.

The ex-Sporting Lisbon young gun also sticks true to his word as evidenced when mentioning a group of leukemia patients during his acceptance speech for the 2013 Ballon d’Or award after promising to do so.

To top it all off, the Portugal captain donated £100,000 to the hospital in Madeira that saved his mother’s life in 2009 which led to the development of a cancer centre in the archipelago.

The CR7-detractors will forever continue to call him out for his sporadic petulance, the fact he may not be as good as Lionel Messi or his penchant to attract all the attention ahead of his teammates, but in my opinion, there is no denying the fact that Cristiano Ronaldo doubles as a world-class footballer and more importantly, a world-class human being.

A lovely knob sucking piece there Pedro but what does it have to do with my comment about how widely despised Ronaldo is by many fellow professionals and members of the public? Irrespective of his "great work for charideeee mate" he's still a tool who is disliked by his Madrid team mates. As for not having tattoos cos he's a blood donor....check this out....give blood in January, get a tattoo and you can still give blood in August...so don't give me this guff about how wonderful he is for not being inked...also, if he goes to a registered tattooist (and one would think he would if he was so inclined) the hygiene standards are probably greater there than in his local blood donor centre.

Just so you don't think I've got a downer on CR, my own personal favourite Steven Gerrard does a lot of charitable work but he's another one mocked and reviled by fans and players but many of them respect what he's done irrespective of the lurid headlines attached to him. Wayne Rooney is another.

Fair to say that neither Rooney or Gerrard have the same pure talent as Ronaldo (arguments about work ethic on the pitch are for another time) much like few if any have the boxing ability of Mayweather but, and this is my point, Ronaldo and Mayweather are disliked immensely despite the fact they are two of the top performers in their chosen profession.

Does Usain Bolt get the same amount of abuse, or Rory McIlroy or even Phil Taylor?

AdamT wrote:Tophat is covering his basis well. He says Floyd will win but secretly is praying for a Manny win.

Then he will be on here stating how overrated Floyd is if he is beat.

I make no secret of the facts that I think Floyd will win but wish Manny would.

Nothing Machiavellian going on here.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

AdamT wrote:Tophat is covering his basis well. He says Floyd will win but secretly is praying for a Manny win.

Then he will be on here stating how overrated Floyd is if he is beat.

I make no secret of the facts that I think Floyd will win but wish Manny would.

Nothing Machiavellian going on here.

Fair enough mate. To be fair as far as I can mind you have always picked Floyd.

I pick Floyd and if Manny wins I will be happy to congratulate him.

DAVE667 wrote:

Pedro147 wrote:

Nico the gman wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:Mayweather is like Cristiano Ronaldo...widely admired for his undeniable ability yet possibly one of the most disliked people in his profession

Absolutely spot on.

Rubbish.


Cristiano Ronaldo may not be everybody’s cup of tea but you cannot fault that he is a giving soul.

Real Madrid star Ronaldo is seen by many as an arrogant, self-important primadonna.

His sublime football talents are often overshadowed by his apparent yearning for individuality and the fact he spends more time preening himself in front of the mirror than working with his teammates on the training pitch.

From my point of view, that is the pre-conceived perception of Ronaldo from a lot of football fans and the general public who do not take the time to look past the model features he possesses, the occasional tantrum he throws when in the heat of battle or the ease in which he sometimes falls to the ground when under pressure from a defender.

What many do not know about the Portuguese ace is that he is a genuinely generous role model who donates money as well as endless time to a number of charities around the world.

Sure, Ronaldo may have an estimated wealth of over £120million, a plethora of sports cars and a museum named after him but his philanthropic nature is almost impossible to deny.

There have been a string of cases throughout his career where Ronaldo has given to the needy, helped the sick and kind-heartedly assisted those less fortunate in a time where footballers appear to be happy with their lot and out of touch with society.

Ronaldo raised funds for the reconstruction of Aceh, Indonesia following the 2004 earthquake and tsunami, donated the payout he received from a libel case to a charity in his home city of Madeira and has been involved in a number of other organisations on the Portuguese island and in other areas of this vast land.

Two of the most heart-warming acts performed by the FIFA Ballon d’Or winner has been to help the lives of two young boys battling life-threatening conditions.

In 2012, Ronaldo met a nine-year old Canaria native who was suffering from cancer of the spine and offered to pay for experimental drugs to aid his recovery.

The Real Madrid fan, Nuhazet Guillen, tragically lost his battle in 2013 but that does not change the fact that Ronaldo did what he could to support somebody he did not personally know previously.

Earlier in 2014, Ronaldo was contacted by the parents of a 10-month old Spanish boy named Erik Ortiz Cruz who required a brain operation in order to save his life.

Erik’s parents only asked for the former Manchester United ace to donate a football shirt and boots to a charity auction to raise funds for the surgery but he went one step further and told them he would pay for the procedure and accompanying treatment.

Ronaldo paid for the entire £50,000 operation and also copped the bill for further management of the youngster’s situation which cost £5,000 per session.

At the 2014 World Cup in Brazil, Ronaldo was seen sporting a zig-zag style haircut which also attracted negative criticism from many. Little did they know the gesture was to honour Erik who came out of his surgery with similar scars on the right side of his head.

Some may see Ronaldo’s actions as only a small tremor on his seismic financial Richter scale while others could blame him for performing PR stunts to improve his popularity but the simple thing is, the sublimely talented player does not need to offer his money or time for media attention. It is because of goodwill and a massive heart.

Ronaldo is also one of few modern day footballers who has refrained from being tattooed in the name of fashion.

The reason why: “I don’t have tattoos because I donate blood very often,” he once said, according to Diretta News.

Ronaldo gives blood twice a year and wants to avoid the cross-contamination and potential diseases that come with having your body inked. Another truly noble cause from the 29-year old winger.

The man never calls for his charity work to be in the public eye. Celebrity causes website Looktothestars.org lists Ronaldo as being involved in the following major charitable organisations:

- Aid Still Required – (‘A non-profit corporation, founded to champion forgotten issues and people left behind after natural disasters and other crises’)

- Cahonas Scotland – (‘A Male Cancer Awareness Charity in Scotland’)

- Save the Children – (‘Creating real and lasting change for children in need in the United States and around the world’)

- UNICEF – (‘To improve children’s lives, providing health care and immunizations, clean water and sanitation, nutrition, education, emergency relief and more.’)

- World Vision – (‘A relief and development organization dedicated to helping children and their communities worldwide reach their full potential by tackling the causes of poverty.’)

Not many people would know these facts nor would they be aware that Ronaldo has a long list of causes that he supports including abuse, adoption, AIDS & HIV, cancer, disaster relief, education, health, human rights, poverty, slavery & human trafficking. He doesn’t boast or ram it down the public’s throat that he is a part of these honorable foundations and causes.

In 2012, he sold the Golden Boot he won in 2011 for €1.5million to donate the funds to Palestinian school children in Gaza and is also involved in FIFA’s ’11 for Health’ which aims to raise awareness to children regarding drug addiction, HIV and obesity.

The ex-Sporting Lisbon young gun also sticks true to his word as evidenced when mentioning a group of leukemia patients during his acceptance speech for the 2013 Ballon d’Or award after promising to do so.

To top it all off, the Portugal captain donated £100,000 to the hospital in Madeira that saved his mother’s life in 2009 which led to the development of a cancer centre in the archipelago.

The CR7-detractors will forever continue to call him out for his sporadic petulance, the fact he may not be as good as Lionel Messi or his penchant to attract all the attention ahead of his teammates, but in my opinion, there is no denying the fact that Cristiano Ronaldo doubles as a world-class footballer and more importantly, a world-class human being.

A lovely knob sucking piece there Pedro but what does it have to do with my comment about how widely despised Ronaldo is by many fellow professionals and members of the public? Irrespective of his "great work for charideeee mate" he's still a tool who is disliked by his Madrid team mates. As for not having tattoos cos he's a blood donor....check this out....give blood in January, get a tattoo and you can still give blood in August...so don't give me this guff about how wonderful he is for not being inked...also, if he goes to a registered tattooist (and one would think he would if he was so inclined) the hygiene standards are probably greater there than in his local blood donor centre.

Just so you don't think I've got a downer on CR, my own personal favourite Steven Gerrard does a lot of charitable work but he's another one mocked and reviled by fans and players but many of them respect what he's done irrespective of the lurid headlines attached to him. Wayne Rooney is another.

Fair to say that neither Rooney or Gerrard have the same pure talent as Ronaldo (arguments about work ethic on the pitch are for another time) much like few if any have the boxing ability of Mayweather but, and this is my point, Ronaldo and Mayweather are disliked immensely despite the fact they are two of the top performers in their chosen profession.

Does Usain Bolt get the same amount of abuse, or Rory McIlroy or even Phil Taylor?

I agree...................He's a t**t.....

Who cares really though? I'm not going to be friends with Ronaldo, but I like watching him play football.

It's getting a bit Heat magazine in here.

Ronaldo is a t..t, he can't even celebrate his team mates goals. It's a team game, not all about him.

AdamT wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

AdamT wrote:Tophat is covering his basis well. He says Floyd will win but secretly is praying for a Manny win.

Then he will be on here stating how overrated Floyd is if he is beat.

I make no secret of the facts that I think Floyd will win but wish Manny would.

Nothing Machiavellian going on here.

Fair enough mate. To be fair as far as I can mind you have always picked Floyd.

I pick Floyd and if Manny wins I will be happy to congratulate him.

There is a lot of damage limitation going on at the moment from both sets of fans..............

The half an article-idiot I alluded to earlier who will be first on here sunday should Manny win..........

"Murray (10/1) is a good win for GGG." .................."Mayweather and Manny isn't worth watching because Manny is (3/1)"

P**CK....

Thought that was the other way round? He could've scored the other night but tee'd up Chicharito for an easier chance instead of being greedy an Pea didn't celebrate with Ronaldo??

AdamT wrote:Ronaldo is a t..t, he can't even celebrate his team mates goals. It's a team game, not all about him.

Has anyone told Ronaldo this?

TopHat24/7 wrote:Thought that was the other way round? He could've scored the other night but tee'd up Chicharito for an easier chance instead of being greedy an Pea didn't celebrate with Ronaldo??

Last night Toppy he apparently looked glum when your man scored.

DAVE667 wrote:

AdamT wrote:Ronaldo is a t..t, he can't even celebrate his team mates goals. It's a team game, not all about him.

Has anyone told Ronaldo this?

Probably not as he is a diva.

I am a United fan but still think he is a c..k. Will never forget how good he was for us though.

TopHat24/7 wrote:Thought that was the other way round? He could've scored the other night but tee'd up Chicharito for an easier chance instead of being greedy an Pea didn't celebrate with Ronaldo??

He missed a chance the other month and was so busy tripping over his bottom lip, he failed to celebrate with the rest of the team when Bale scored from the rebound. Last night he didn't get the final touch on a ball that was given as an own goal so he decided to smash the ball back into the net just so people could see that it was really all down to him.....pr!ck!

When Gareth Bale joined Madrid he nutmegged Ronaldo in his first training session, Ronaldo responded by lunging in with a two footed tackle....pr!ck!

AdamT wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:Thought that was the other way round? He could've scored the other night but tee'd up Chicharito for an easier chance instead of being greedy an Pea didn't celebrate with Ronaldo??

Last night Toppy he apparently looked glum when your man scored.

I hated that stuff from Henry, "he should celebrate with Ronaldo, it's his goal" what rubbish. It's a last minute goal in a huge game, for a player who hasn't had much game time.

DAVE667 wrote:

AdamT wrote:Ronaldo is a t..t, he can't even celebrate his team mates goals. It's a team game, not all about him.

Has anyone told Ronaldo this?

He used to live in a place called Broadhill In Alderley edge............My Father-in-law did some work for one of his advisors......Went there a few times...

He liked him........Another reason I don't !!.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

AdamT wrote:Ronaldo is a t..t, he can't even celebrate his team mates goals. It's a team game, not all about him.

Has anyone told Ronaldo this?

He used to live in a place called Broadhill In Alderley edge............My Father-in-law did some work for one of his advisors......Went there a few times...

He liked him........Another reason I don't !!.

Good enough for me, TRUSSY.

My wife likes him, another reason I don't

You should be grateful, Ronaldo's money probably went into your pockets via your father in law.

DAVE667 wrote:

Pedro147 wrote:

Nico the gman wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:Mayweather is like Cristiano Ronaldo...widely admired for his undeniable ability yet possibly one of the most disliked people in his profession

Absolutely spot on.

Rubbish.


Cristiano Ronaldo may not be everybody’s cup of tea but you cannot fault that he is a giving soul.

Real Madrid star Ronaldo is seen by many as an arrogant, self-important primadonna.

His sublime football talents are often overshadowed by his apparent yearning for individuality and the fact he spends more time preening himself in front of the mirror than working with his teammates on the training pitch.

From my point of view, that is the pre-conceived perception of Ronaldo from a lot of football fans and the general public who do not take the time to look past the model features he possesses, the occasional tantrum he throws when in the heat of battle or the ease in which he sometimes falls to the ground when under pressure from a defender.

What many do not know about the Portuguese ace is that he is a genuinely generous role model who donates money as well as endless time to a number of charities around the world.

Sure, Ronaldo may have an estimated wealth of over £120million, a plethora of sports cars and a museum named after him but his philanthropic nature is almost impossible to deny.

There have been a string of cases throughout his career where Ronaldo has given to the needy, helped the sick and kind-heartedly assisted those less fortunate in a time where footballers appear to be happy with their lot and out of touch with society.

Ronaldo raised funds for the reconstruction of Aceh, Indonesia following the 2004 earthquake and tsunami, donated the payout he received from a libel case to a charity in his home city of Madeira and has been involved in a number of other organisations on the Portuguese island and in other areas of this vast land.

Two of the most heart-warming acts performed by the FIFA Ballon d’Or winner has been to help the lives of two young boys battling life-threatening conditions.

In 2012, Ronaldo met a nine-year old Canaria native who was suffering from cancer of the spine and offered to pay for experimental drugs to aid his recovery.

The Real Madrid fan, Nuhazet Guillen, tragically lost his battle in 2013 but that does not change the fact that Ronaldo did what he could to support somebody he did not personally know previously.

Earlier in 2014, Ronaldo was contacted by the parents of a 10-month old Spanish boy named Erik Ortiz Cruz who required a brain operation in order to save his life.

Erik’s parents only asked for the former Manchester United ace to donate a football shirt and boots to a charity auction to raise funds for the surgery but he went one step further and told them he would pay for the procedure and accompanying treatment.

Ronaldo paid for the entire £50,000 operation and also copped the bill for further management of the youngster’s situation which cost £5,000 per session.

At the 2014 World Cup in Brazil, Ronaldo was seen sporting a zig-zag style haircut which also attracted negative criticism from many. Little did they know the gesture was to honour Erik who came out of his surgery with similar scars on the right side of his head.

Some may see Ronaldo’s actions as only a small tremor on his seismic financial Richter scale while others could blame him for performing PR stunts to improve his popularity but the simple thing is, the sublimely talented player does not need to offer his money or time for media attention. It is because of goodwill and a massive heart.

Ronaldo is also one of few modern day footballers who has refrained from being tattooed in the name of fashion.

The reason why: “I don’t have tattoos because I donate blood very often,” he once said, according to Diretta News.

Ronaldo gives blood twice a year and wants to avoid the cross-contamination and potential diseases that come with having your body inked. Another truly noble cause from the 29-year old winger.

The man never calls for his charity work to be in the public eye. Celebrity causes website Looktothestars.org lists Ronaldo as being involved in the following major charitable organisations:

- Aid Still Required – (‘A non-profit corporation, founded to champion forgotten issues and people left behind after natural disasters and other crises’)

- Cahonas Scotland – (‘A Male Cancer Awareness Charity in Scotland’)

- Save the Children – (‘Creating real and lasting change for children in need in the United States and around the world’)

- UNICEF – (‘To improve children’s lives, providing health care and immunizations, clean water and sanitation, nutrition, education, emergency relief and more.’)

- World Vision – (‘A relief and development organization dedicated to helping children and their communities worldwide reach their full potential by tackling the causes of poverty.’)

Not many people would know these facts nor would they be aware that Ronaldo has a long list of causes that he supports including abuse, adoption, AIDS & HIV, cancer, disaster relief, education, health, human rights, poverty, slavery & human trafficking. He doesn’t boast or ram it down the public’s throat that he is a part of these honorable foundations and causes.

In 2012, he sold the Golden Boot he won in 2011 for €1.5million to donate the funds to Palestinian school children in Gaza and is also involved in FIFA’s ’11 for Health’ which aims to raise awareness to children regarding drug addiction, HIV and obesity.

The ex-Sporting Lisbon young gun also sticks true to his word as evidenced when mentioning a group of leukemia patients during his acceptance speech for the 2013 Ballon d’Or award after promising to do so.

To top it all off, the Portugal captain donated £100,000 to the hospital in Madeira that saved his mother’s life in 2009 which led to the development of a cancer centre in the archipelago.

The CR7-detractors will forever continue to call him out for his sporadic petulance, the fact he may not be as good as Lionel Messi or his penchant to attract all the attention ahead of his teammates, but in my opinion, there is no denying the fact that Cristiano Ronaldo doubles as a world-class footballer and more importantly, a world-class human being.

A lovely knob sucking piece there Pedro but what does it have to do with my comment about how widely despised Ronaldo is by many fellow professionals and members of the public? Irrespective of his "great work for charideeee mate" he's still a tool who is disliked by his Madrid team mates. As for not having tattoos cos he's a blood donor....check this out....give blood in January, get a tattoo and you can still give blood in August...so don't give me this guff about how wonderful he is for not being inked...also, if he goes to a registered tattooist (and one would think he would if he was so inclined) the hygiene standards are probably greater there than in his local blood donor centre.

Just so you don't think I've got a downer on CR, my own personal favourite Steven Gerrard does a lot of charitable work but he's another one mocked and reviled by fans and players but many of them respect what he's done irrespective of the lurid headlines attached to him. Wayne Rooney is another.

Fair to say that neither Rooney or Gerrard have the same pure talent as Ronaldo (arguments about work ethic on the pitch are for another time) much like few if any have the boxing ability of Mayweather but, and this is my point, Ronaldo and Mayweather are disliked immensely despite the fact they are two of the top performers in their chosen profession.

Does Usain Bolt get the same amount of abuse, or Rory McIlroy or even Phil Taylor?

"possibly one of the most disliked people in his profession"

That is the only bit I dispute. Personally I think CR can be a prima-dona but most people who have played or managed him have only good things to say about him.

That is the only bit I dispute. Personally I think CR can be a prima-dona but most people who have played or managed him have only good things to say about him.

People are scared of him cos he wields too much power at RM...look at this story about the things he called Messi in the dressing room and how those who didn't follow suit were on his personal sh!tlist.

DAVE667 wrote:

That is the only bit I dispute. Personally I think CR can be a prima-dona but most people who have played or managed him have only good things to say about him.

People are scared of him cos he wields too much power at RM...look at this story about the things he called Messi in the dressing room and how those who didn't follow suit were on his personal sh!tlist.

Are Ronaldo and Floyd the same person??

It's like a school playground in here. Look at the nasty things that boy said!

Scotty's a red...

AdamT wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

That is the only bit I dispute. Personally I think CR can be a prima-dona but most people who have played or managed him have only good things to say about him.

People are scared of him cos he wields too much power at RM...look at this story about the things he called Messi in the dressing room and how those who didn't follow suit were on his personal sh!tlist.

Are Ronaldo and Floyd the same person??

One's 6'3" and the other's 3'6"....it's a possibility though, they've never been seen together in the same room.

Scottrf wrote:It's like a school playground in here. Look at the nasty things that boy said!

Shut up stinky Scotty with the snotty spotty botty HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

DAVE667 wrote:

AdamT wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

That is the only bit I dispute. Personally I think CR can be a prima-dona but most people who have played or managed him have only good things to say about him.

People are scared of him cos he wields too much power at RM...look at this story about the things he called Messi in the dressing room and how those who didn't follow suit were on his personal sh!tlist.

Are Ronaldo and Floyd the same person??

One's 6'3" and the other's 3'6"....it's a possibility though, they've never been seen together in the same room.

One goes down a bit easier than the other....................especially at the Oyster !!

Fair play to him for all he's done for charity. Still an extremeley selfish player on the pitch. Last seasons champions league final being an example. The way he celebrated after scoring a pen when they were already 3-1 up was all self.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

AdamT wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

That is the only bit I dispute. Personally I think CR can be a prima-dona but most people who have played or managed him have only good things to say about him.

People are scared of him cos he wields too much power at RM...look at this story about the things he called Messi in the dressing room and how those who didn't follow suit were on his personal sh!tlist.

Are Ronaldo and Floyd the same person??

One's 6'3" and the other's 3'6"....it's a possibility though, they've never been seen together in the same room.

One goes down a bit easier than the other....................especially at the Oyster !!

Thought Floyd would have to go up on you, TRUSSY

RanjitPatel wrote:Fair play to him for all he's done for charity. Still an extremeley selfish player on the pitch. Last seasons champions league final being an example. The way he celebrated after scoring a pen when they were already 3-1 up was all self.

I imagine Bernie Madoff gave to charity..

When your sponsored up to a 100 million a year and getting 300,000 a week on top................Not too hard is it..

Yep good luck to him............But it's good PR too !!