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Post by George Carlin Sun May 17, 2015 8:23 am

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Glasgow Warriors v Ulster Rugby
Friday 22 May 2015
KO: 19:45
Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow

Live on Sky Sports / BBC ALBA / BBC NI / TG4

Referee: George Clancy (IRFU, 73rd competition game)
Assistant Referees: John Lacey, Dudley Phillips (both IRFU)
Citing Commissioner: Gwyn Bowden (WRU)
TMO: Seamus Flannery (IRFU)

A. Head to Head - Aggregate

26 Played 26
12 Wins 13
13 Losses 12
1 Draws 1
44 Tries 47
31 Conversions 32
64 Penalties 66
6 Drop Goals 0
492 Points 497
25 Avg. Age 27

B. Head to Head - Recently

Sat 16 May 2015 - Glasgow 32 - 10 Ulster Rugby

Sat 11 Oct 2014 - Ulster Rugby 29 - 9 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 18 Apr 2014 - Glasgow Warriors 27 - 9 Ulster Rugby

Fri 13 Sep 2013 - Ulster Rugby 12 - 13 Glasgow Warriors

C. Run-In

Glasgow Warriors

16/05/15 Glasgow 32 - 10 Ulster

08/05/15 Ospreys 21 - 10 Glasgow

25/04/15 Connacht 13 - 31 Glasgow

Ulster Rugby

16/05/15 Glasgow 32 - 10 Ulster

09/05/15 Ulster 23 - 23 Munster

24/04/15 Ulster 26 - 10 Leinster

D. Teams

Glasgow Warriors
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15. Stuart Hogg
14. Tommy Seymour
13. Richie Vernon
12. Peter Horne
11. Niko Matawalu
10. Finn Russell
09. Henry Pyrgos
 
01. Ryan Grant  
02. Fraser Brown
03. Rossouw de Klerk
04. Jonny Gray
05. Al Kellock (Captain)
06. Josh Strauss
07. Chris Fusaro
08. Adam Ashe
 
16. Pat MacArthur
17. Gordon Reid
18. Mike Cusack
19. Leone Nakarawa
20. Ryan Wilson
21. Duncan Weir
22. Sean Lamont
23. DTH van der Merwe

Ulster Rugby
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15 L Ludik
14 T Bowe
13 J Payne
12 D Cave
11 C Gilroy
10 P Jackson
09 R Pienaar

01 C Black
02 R Best (C)
03 R Lutton
04 L Stevenson
05 D Tuohy
06 I Henderson
07 C Henry
08 R Wilson

16 R Herring
17 A Warwick
18 B Ross
19 R Diack
20 S Reidy
21P Marshall
22 S McCloskey
23 M Allen


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Post by toml Thu May 21, 2015 5:06 pm

Munchkin wrote:It's crazy that Lutton hasn't had more game time. I don't why he was dropped but it looks like a really poor decision now that he's starting ahead of Ross. It's a bit late now to be starting him against the top Pro12 team, but fingers crossed that he will at least hold his own, and that Stevenson doesn't do anything stupid. Or indeed that any of them don't do anything stupid.

Still, we have a chance, and I think we will come away with a win, just.

Crazy because he's a bloody good player who hasn't seen proper game time all season. I hope he is match hardened enough, but i have never seen him let us down. A shame he hasn't been playing more

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Post by Guest Thu May 21, 2015 5:26 pm

Lutton is good and I thought he was coming along nicely before the start of this season. And now even though Ross has been Herbst's back-up Lutton jumps ahead after just one appearance from the bench. Lack of foresight Mr Clarke?

Even with so little game time I think Lutton will do a job there. Not so sure against Munster if we get that far.
I think Stevenson to replace Van der Merwe with Henderson in the backrow is a good call. This will be a battle of attrition. Grind the weegie down and let loose the dogs of war. The final 20 minutes will belong to Ulster.

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Post by cakeordeath Thu May 21, 2015 8:09 pm

Entered a competition to win tickets, which closed at 4pm today. Have 2 missed calls from a Dublin number at 4 and 6. Gonna be gutted if I have missed out

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Post by Guest Thu May 21, 2015 8:13 pm

Try emailing them if you haven't already.

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Post by cakeordeath Thu May 21, 2015 8:17 pm

Munchkin wrote:Try emailing them if you haven't already.

Will call them back tomorrow, knowing my luck it is probably PPI

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Post by Guest Thu May 21, 2015 8:20 pm

PPI calls are a curse. I have never received one from Dublin though. If the tickets were still available at 6 I would think they will still be available tomorrow morning. Good luck with them anyway Fingers Crossed

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Post by cakeordeath Thu May 21, 2015 8:24 pm

cakeordeath wrote:
Munchkin wrote:Try emailing them if you haven't already.

Will call them back tomorrow, knowing my luck it is probably PPI

Yahoo I won 2 tickets

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Post by Guest Thu May 21, 2015 8:33 pm

Great Very Happy Always nice to have a bit of luck on your side.

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Post by The Great Aukster Fri May 22, 2015 12:27 am

cakeordeath wrote:
cakeordeath wrote:
Munchkin wrote:Try emailing them if you haven't already.

Will call them back tomorrow, knowing my luck it is probably PPI

Yahoo I won 2 tickets

So cake this time...

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Post by cakeordeath Fri May 22, 2015 10:48 am

The Great Aukster wrote:
cakeordeath wrote:
cakeordeath wrote:
Munchkin wrote:Try emailing them if you haven't already.

Will call them back tomorrow, knowing my luck it is probably PPI

Yahoo I won 2 tickets

So cake this time...

If by cake you mean beer and pies, then yeah

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Post by jimbopip Fri May 22, 2015 10:50 am

So Mr Cake, are these tickets for tonight's game or the final?
If it's the final who would you like to see playing Glasgow? Whistle

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Post by Totalflanker Fri May 22, 2015 11:16 am

Not seen a man for man for a while and utterly pointless but.....

01. Grant v Black. Glasgow
02. Brown v Best. Ulster
03. de Klerk v Lutton. No idea
04. Gray v Stevenson. Glasgow
05. Kellock v Tuohy. Ulster
06. Strauss v Henderson. Ulster
07. Fusaro v Henry. Ulster
08. Ashe v Wilson. Even
09. Pyrgos v Pienaar. Ulster
10. Russell v Jackson. Glasgow
11. Matawalu v Gilroy. Even
12. Horne v Cave. Glasgow
13. Vernon v Payne. Ulster
14. Seymour v Bowe. Definitely Tommy
15. Hogg v Ludik. Glasgow

Ulster by a nose?

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Post by Pete330v2 Fri May 22, 2015 11:21 am

jimbopip wrote:So Mr Cake, are these tickets for tonight's game or the final?
If it's the final who would you like to see playing Glasgow? Whistle

You beat me to it Jimbo.
I was going to suggest that Mr Cake pass those tickets onto someone who's side would be in the final Smile

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri May 22, 2015 11:24 am

Totalflanker wrote:Not seen a man for man for a while and utterly pointless but.....

01. Grant  v Black.                     Glasgow
02. Brown v Best.                      Ulster
03. de Klerk v Lutton.               No idea
04. Gray v Stevenson.              Glasgow
05. Kellock v Tuohy.                 Ulster
06. Strauss v Henderson.        Ulster
07. Fusaro v Henry.                  Ulster
08. Ashe v Wilson.                    Even
09. Pyrgos v Pienaar.               Ulster
10. Russell v Jackson.             Glasgow
11. Matawalu v Gilroy.             Even
12. Horne v Cave.                     Glasgow
13. Vernon v Payne.                 Ulster
14. Seymour v Bowe.               Definitely Tommy
15. Hogg v Ludik.                      Glasgow

Ulster by a nose?

I think Ashe is looking very good, I would put him ahead of Wilson. However, I think that Gilroy is better than Matawalu on the wing and I definitely think that Paddy Jackson is a better 10 than Russell. Two very good teams though, it is close.

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Post by Don Alfonso Fri May 22, 2015 11:25 am

Sweaty palms.

Can't wait.

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Post by highland_scot Fri May 22, 2015 11:35 am

I would put Henderson v Strauss as even, but Gilroy definitely better than Mata on the wing. Anyway, is Matawalu not opposite Bowe? In which case it has to be Bowe, with Gilroy and Seymour pretty even!

Kellock v Tuohy depends on whether we're talking playing ability, or production of a thesis titled:
"A critical evaluation of the psychological and physiological factors influencing the formation and structure of the Ruck, with particular focus on the effect of a non-participating party gesticulating and shouting the phrase 'come on boys'."

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Post by jimbopip Fri May 22, 2015 11:37 am

Gentleman, I need moral and spiritual guidance.
I am about to go on Feckless rogue's Stag weekend. I have done my homework and located an Oirish bar in Bournemouth which will have the game on BigScreen tv. Now Princess Daughter is accusing me of "hijacking" her intended's stag do. Apparently he and his friends may not want to watch rugby. Shocked
Now I am having flashbacks to the last time we tried to bond over sport. I took him and young Pipetto to Vicarage Road for Watford v Ipswich. Feckless Rogue is a Watford fan. 89 minutes gone, 0-0 and Ipswich score. I stand up, punch the air and embark on cries of, "Ya beauty! Gerrinthere. Easseee the Tractor Boys." and so on. Then I remember F R got us seats in the Watford end. He still hasn't seen the funny side of it.
So, the question is... how much should I pay to have him "disappeared" ? Permanently.

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Post by RDW Fri May 22, 2015 11:38 am

jimbopip wrote:Gentleman, I need moral and spiritual guidance.
I am about to go on Feckless rogue's Stag weekend. I have done my homework and located an Oirish bar in Bournemouth which will have the game on BigScreen tv. Now Princess Daughter is accusing me of "hijacking" her intended's stag do. Apparently he and his friends may not want to watch rugby. Shocked
Now I am having flashbacks to the last time we tried to bond over sport. I took him and young Pipetto to Vicarage Road for Watford v Ipswich. Feckless Rogue is a Watford fan. 89 minutes gone, 0-0 and Ipswich score. I stand up, punch the air and embark on cries of, "Ya beauty! Gerrinthere. Easseee the Tractor Boys." and so on. Then I remember F R got us seats in the Watford end. He still hasn't seen the funny side of it.
So, the question is... how much should I pay to have him "disappeared" ? Permanently.

I hear 21st schizoid knows a man...

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Post by Totalflanker Fri May 22, 2015 11:42 am

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

I think Ashe is looking very good, I would put him ahead of Wilson. However, I think that Gilroy is better than Matawalu on the wing and I definitely think that Paddy Jackson is a better 10 than Russell. Two very good teams though, it is close.

Rory agree to a degree. Jackson certainly a steadier 10, but have a feeling Russell can do things Jackson just can't. Same carries for Gilroy, better winger, but Matawalu does things nobody else would even think of (frequently not always good things granted).

Both potentially more likely to make a mistake, but likewise do something that could change the game.

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Post by neilthom7 Fri May 22, 2015 11:45 am

jimbopip wrote:Gentleman, I need moral and spiritual guidance.
I am about to go on Feckless rogue's Stag weekend. I have done my homework and located an Oirish bar in Bournemouth which will have the game on BigScreen tv. Now Princess Daughter is accusing me of "hijacking" her intended's stag do. Apparently he and his friends may not want to watch rugby. Shocked
Now I am having flashbacks to the last time we tried to bond over sport. I took him and young Pipetto to Vicarage Road for Watford v Ipswich. Feckless Rogue is a Watford fan. 89 minutes gone, 0-0 and Ipswich score. I stand up, punch the air and embark on cries of, "Ya beauty! Gerrinthere. Easseee the Tractor Boys." and so on. Then I remember F R got us seats in the Watford end. He still hasn't seen the funny side of it.
So, the question is... how much should I pay to have him "disappeared" ? Permanently.

Dissapeared? Why whatever do you mean, us Ulster folk would know nothing about violence we are such a loving bunch here Hug

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Post by jimbopip Fri May 22, 2015 11:50 am

Thank you Neil. Obviously, Belfast and Glasgow are twinned in their love of the arts and them finer things what culture can bring.
RDW, Schiz offered me a BOGOF but I don't know which of the numpties at SRU HQ to go for first!

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Post by Notch Fri May 22, 2015 12:20 pm

Jackson isn't just steady- on form he's one of the best attacking 10s in the league. It must be an absolute joy to play outside him with his pass selection and execution.
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Post by 21st Century Schizoid Man Fri May 22, 2015 12:24 pm

Jimbo,

easy my son.  Don't get carried away wi' that youth male bonding thing tonight.   Plenty of grannies in Bournemouth tbh Whistle

Someone from 'over the water' thinks Henderson is better that Strauss - laughing take it they think it is the similarly named diddy at the MFLs !   Bluto is on the mighty warpath !

GLASGOW WARRIORS -WHATEVER IT TAKES

PS Liked this which was put up on the big screen at the awards dinner over the Ws logo for the leavers - Tom Ryder appreciated it as did Thom Evans

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri May 22, 2015 12:30 pm

Totalflanker wrote:Not seen a man for man for a while and utterly pointless but.....

01. Grant  v Black.                     Glasgow
02. Brown v Best.                      Ulster
03. de Klerk v Lutton.               No idea
04. Gray v Stevenson.              Glasgow
05. Kellock v Tuohy.                 Ulster
06. Strauss v Henderson.        Ulster
07. Fusaro v Henry.                  Ulster
08. Ashe v Wilson.                    Even
09. Pyrgos v Pienaar.               Ulster
10. Russell v Jackson.             Glasgow
11. Matawalu v Gilroy.             Even
12. Horne v Cave.                     Glasgow
13. Vernon v Payne.                 Ulster
14. Seymour v Bowe.               Definitely Tommy
15. Hogg v Ludik.                      Glasgow

Ulster by a nose?

Doh

What on earth are you suggesting??

Agreed on the 14 jersey. Tommy is the best!

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Post by jimbopip Fri May 22, 2015 12:55 pm

Schiz, old bean... if I come home smelling of old lady wee Mrs Pip will have something to say about it.

Someone from Ulster thinks Tommy Bowe is better than Tennessee Tam, maybe once upon a time but not tonight. Our Tam is on fire.

It'll be tricky, but I think we'll do it.

When I phoned the Oirish sports bar the barman was very chatty and "Sure the rugby will be on . No problem at all." When I asked with his accent would he be supporting Ulster.... He went all taciturn and said , "No that's not the match I'll be interested in this weekend."
How to make friends and influence people. Doh

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri May 22, 2015 12:57 pm

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:

Someone from 'over the water' thinks Henderson is better that Strauss - laughing take it they think it is the similarly named diddy at the MFLs !   Bluto is on the mighty warpath !


One is going to be recognised as a very good player, one is going to be recognised as world class in the next few years.

I'll let you figure out which one is which. Wink

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Post by cakeordeath Fri May 22, 2015 3:26 pm

jimbopip wrote:So Mr Cake, are these tickets for tonight's game or the final?
If it's the final who would you like to see playing Glasgow? Whistle

You know, it doesn't matter which other team make it to the final to face Glasgow. Sadly my tickets are for tonight

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Post by Guest Fri May 22, 2015 3:34 pm

I wouldn't be sad about it. You should be delighted that you won tickets to see Glasgow play in their last game of the season Very Happy

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Post by tigertattie Fri May 22, 2015 3:52 pm

I can't beleive the Ulster boys are daring to suggest that Strauss and Kellock are not "world class"

Oooooo. The soap dodgers are going to be enraged by this!
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri May 22, 2015 4:52 pm

Soap dodgers? Laugh

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Post by RDW Fri May 22, 2015 4:54 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Soap dodgers? Laugh

'The great unwashed' is also an acceptable term for our western brethren.

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Post by 123456789 Fri May 22, 2015 4:59 pm

I'm starting to feel that Al Kellock may not be he right man for the next couple of matches, I know dropping him would be incredibly harsh and unimaginably ruthless however last year against Leinster in the final we were rather underpowered. I think in some games his leadership is enough to overcome his diminishing ability as a player, however against the like of Leinster, Ulster, Munster and the Ospreys we need to have 15 quality players out on the field and unfortunately I'm not sure Al fits the bill anymore. Don't get me wrong I have an enormous amount of respect for the work he has done for Glasgow and I highly doubt there would be a home semi-final tonight in front of 10,000 people without the captain but part of me feels that, especially in the professional game, there is no room for sentimentality and I hope the selection isn't based on that.

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Post by Notch Fri May 22, 2015 5:20 pm

Well if we had Van der Merwe fit you'd see how he measures up to two excellent second rows, but instead we have one international and Lewis Stevenson.
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Post by highland_scot Fri May 22, 2015 5:29 pm

FYI anyone going to the game - trains to Scotstoun from Queen St are currently phecked... Get the bus if there's no sign of things improving soon!

Working in the west end of Glasgow, trying to get back to embra is a pain!

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Post by tigertattie Fri May 22, 2015 5:34 pm

highland_scot wrote:FYI anyone going to the game - trains to Scotstoun from Queen St are currently phecked... Get the bus if there's no sign of things improving soon!

Working in the west end of Glasgow, trying to get back to embra is a pain!

You mean theres folk in Glasgow that actually do work?

or does standing in the queue for your Giro count as work over there?
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Post by highland_scot Fri May 22, 2015 5:42 pm

Ha, they don't. Hence people have to come through from Edinburgh to do the work for them...

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Post by clivemcl Fri May 22, 2015 5:44 pm

Anyone's tummies feeling a little wibbly wobbly yet??   vomit

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Post by IanBru Fri May 22, 2015 6:03 pm

Clive, I can only assume you've started on the Warrior Pies.
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Post by neilthom7 Fri May 22, 2015 6:23 pm

clivemcl wrote:Anyone's tummies feeling a little wibbly wobbly yet??   vomit


Yeah mate but in fairness that might be thecooked chicken I had for lunch though, I mean I say cooked chicken I really mean semi raw meat of unknown descent

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Post by George Carlin Fri May 22, 2015 6:35 pm

Totalflanker wrote:Not seen a man for man for a while and utterly pointless but.....

01. Grant  v Black.                     Glasgow
02. Brown v Best.                      Ulster
03. de Klerk v Lutton.               No idea
04. Gray v Stevenson.              Glasgow
05. Kellock v Tuohy.                 Ulster
06. Strauss v Henderson.        Ulster
07. Fusaro v Henry.                  Ulster
08. Ashe v Wilson.                    Even
09. Pyrgos v Pienaar.               Ulster
10. Russell v Jackson.             Glasgow
11. Matawalu v Gilroy.             Even
12. Horne v Cave.                     Glasgow
13. Vernon v Payne.                 Ulster
14. Seymour v Bowe.               Definitely Tommy
15. Hogg v Ludik.                      Glasgow

Ulster by a nose?
Good idea and I was liking this comparison a lot until you chose Henderson ahead of a Currie Cup winning captain and team talisman.
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Post by 123456789 Fri May 22, 2015 7:01 pm

When you say definitely Tommy, is that Tommy Seymour, Tommy Bowe or a pun? In which case which Tommy is better because I'd say that on this season's from it is debatable. Although I do accept that, when at their respective best, Tommy Bowe is almost certainly probably perhaps a bit better by a small margin.

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Post by Guest Fri May 22, 2015 7:03 pm

Strauss wants to be like Henderson when he grows up.

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Post by IanBru Fri May 22, 2015 7:04 pm

Exactly, GC. Henderson at Lock? Absolutely. In fact, I rate him so highly that I have him and young Jonny penciled in for the Lions berths in 2015 and 2019. An era-defining partnership.

Henderson at blindside? I have yet to be convinced.

Strauss at blindside? Makes King Leonidas look like a Tupperware saleswoman.
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Post by IanBru Fri May 22, 2015 7:07 pm

Or rather... 2017 and 2022. Ahem.
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Post by GLove39 Fri May 22, 2015 7:26 pm

Nerves are starting to kick in now!

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Post by toml Fri May 22, 2015 7:32 pm

Crap I just realised that useless t urd Clancy was refereeing. All my confidence has went down the drain. He is bound to whistle us out of the game, I'd rather a Scottish ref... or Patterson Wink

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Post by George Carlin Fri May 22, 2015 7:46 pm

Is there some sort of game on tonight, or something?
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Post by RDW Fri May 22, 2015 8:15 pm

All the best to my soap dodging, giro grabbing, knife wielding Yes voting brethren from the west! Hug

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Post by GLove39 Fri May 22, 2015 8:16 pm

George Carlin wrote:Is there some sort of game on tonight, or something?

Big match between Reading Women V Millwall Lionesses at 19:45 thumbsup

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Post by Pete330v2 Fri May 22, 2015 8:23 pm

For some reason my ass is squeaking, that means it's squeaky bum time.
I am officially brickin' it.

All the best to our Weegie friends and may the best side win as long as it's Ulster Smile

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