We Go Again! The Premier League thread

[Hero]

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[Ent]

Always thought mulumbu was a decent player at mid table level- any particular reason he has been released?

[NickisBHAFC]

I don't get why arsenal fans do these stupid poll hijacks. Really isn't funny in the slightest.

[Ent]

I don't get why arsenal fans do these stupid poll hijacks. Really isn't funny in the slightest.

Was the only way for them to win anything fr quite some time.

[Guest]

Agree, Ent. Surprised mulumbu has been released, but the word is that Pulis wants Jedinak, so something must be in the pipeline. Always thought mulumbu did a good, reliable job & will be a steal for someone in the PL.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Mulumbu will be absolutely fine. Can see Stoke, Palace, Leicester, Villa, Newcastle, Sunderland all being interested. Be good for us for some depth too. And all the promoted teams. Seems an odd one to me.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Was just gonna say he'd be a great signing to help bolster our midfield

[Nakatomi Plaza]

I don't get why arsenal fans do these stupid poll hijacks. Really isn't funny in the slightest.

Don't think its a hijack, more that Arsenal have a large following on Twitter/Facebook. Likewise, whenever there's a public vote on Sky Sports, Liverpool tend to do disproportionately well. Not sure why people are getting so upset about these glorified popularity contests.

[NickisBHAFC]

Advocatt leaves Sunderland. Knew that would happen, to old to take it over full time, Job well done and can leave with his head held high. 

Hopefully Sean Dyche can remain in the Prem with them.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Allardyce will 100% be approached. He says he wants a rest but they'll definitely go for him.

[compelling and rich]

well the football they have been playing these last few years has been worse than what big sam can do, at least he can get results doing it. depends if thats not the sunderland way

[wheelchair1991]

what is the West Ham way can anyone explain?

[Mat]

Mulumbu will be absolutely fine. Can see Stoke, Palace, Leicester, Villa, Newcastle, Sunderland all being interested. Be good for us for some depth too. And all the promoted teams. Seems an odd one to me.

Wages apparently. On 35k, one of our highest paid players, but would have been a back-up behind Yacob and Fletcher, and we can't really afford to carry that on our wage bill. And in fairness, got years of great service out of him for 150k fee, so if he wanted regular football, I'm glad we agreed to let him go.

Like you said, he should have plenty of options.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

what is the West Ham way can anyone explain?

I think I have some sort of explanation a page or so back.

[Guest]

what is the West Ham way can anyone explain?

I think I have some sort of explanation a page or so back.

@ Mon May 25, 2015 7:54 pm

[GSC]

Liverpool bid 10m for Clyne.

Guess the outcome

[Hero]

They come back later with a bid of £30m?

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Lets be fair, pot kettle RE Man U overpaying for players.

[Fernando]

Ryan Taylor & Jonas Gutierrez released by Newcastle

Survives cancer, scores the goal that keeps Newcastle in the premier league, Gets released

#StayClassyNewcastle

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Probably not good enough to play for them, especially if they are investing this summer. He also didn't seem desperate to stay.

[Guest]

To be honest, you immediately think it's a disgraceful act by the club to release Jonas & I see that point, however, him & Ryan were expected to leave anyway, so at least Jonas can now go out on a true high & be remembered as a hero, instead of slipping out the back door at the end of next season, seeing as he's not going to play, as we move forward. Prior to the WHU game, it's clear Jonas wasn't of a good enough standard anymore, so I can see where the club are coming from. As for Ryan, injuries have ruined him & again another decision that although difficult, needed to be done.

[Lowlandbrit]

The list of people out of jobs before Carver is considerably longer than I expected it to be. At what point do we just assume he's hanging on?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Jonas is frickin awful, can't keep just because he had cancer

[Guest]

Olly, you don't know what you're talking about

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/150236/Lionel-Messi-Gutierrez-is-as-good-as-Rooney-and-Fabregas

[Hammersmith harrier]

Rio has officially retired, was for me between 2006-2011 the best defender in England and one of the very best in the world, his partnership with Vidic will live long in the memories of Man United fans.

[Guest]

Yeah, top defender was Rio, probably should of gone after leaving United, instead of leaving kind of out the back door & amongst the shambles of QPR

Premier League (6): 2002–03, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09, 2010–11, 2012–13
FA Cup (1): 2003–04
Football League Cup (3): 2005–06, 2008–09, 2009–10
FA Community Shield (6): 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010,2011, 2013
UEFA Champions League (1): 2007–08
UEFA Super Cup (1): 2009 UEFA Super Cup
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008
England 81 caps

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Best Central Defender in the world for a period, the best player we produced of that famed group of the academy.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Villa 5-1 to be relegated next season

Printing money that #kerching

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Southampton in Europe thanks for Villa's showing today.

Champs League: Chelsea, City, Arsenal, (Qualifiers) United
Europa: Liverpool, Spunks, Saints, West Ham.

[GSC]

Newcastle talking to Viera about becoming their new manager

#Ashley

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Interesting. Think he might be an astute find.

[GSC]

If I were Viera, I wouldn't take it. Dont think its the right fit for either party

[Guest]

Not sure about PV, it's just a name & no proven record, other than working with youngsters.

[Guest]

Think Sky have just got excited because it's Vieira, sure Newcastle have had talks with McClaren & a the Guingamp manager. I don't think PV would settle for being a puppet under Ashley, doesn't fit with his character.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Interesting that Vieira is the bookies favourite. McClaren is just second, but I think hes the most likely. 5/4 is a good price compared to 1/2 for Vieira

[Hammersmith harrier]

Is Jack Wilshere some sort of complete moron.

[Hero]

The full sort.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I don't really see why anyone cares?

[Hero]

Because he's meant to be a role model?
Rooney gets dragged over hot coals when he publicly swears in the heat of the moment, Wilshere leads a crowd into singing an expletive riddled song with large numbers of kids in attendance.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Ok

1. If Jack Wilshere is your role model you need to assess your life
2. If you're taking your kid to football/football related things like a celebration you should probably be prepared for some swearing

[Hero]

1. Generally people that look to role models are children, not quite if children under the age of 10 need to assess their life quite yet.

2. Why should it be the norm to accept swearing at football? That it's considered okay as part of the lad culture, one of the things I utterly despise about the modern game, when you do go to other sporting events and the fans are singing offensive songs, but all a bit of banter so just tell your kids to put their hands over their ears.

[socal1976]

From my experience most kids by the age of ten know all the swear words to begin with. It is up to the parent to keep them from using it at understanding appropriate conduct. Wishere was probably still drunk from the night before. It is football if you take your kid to a match you are probably going to hear the same thing.

[Hero]

I never swore as a child, I never swore in front of my parents even when I became an adult, they never swore in front of me and neither my wife nor I swear in front of our children.
If you go to other sporting events you don't expect the crowd to start using offensive language yet it's part of the culture amongst football fans. It used to be part of the culture to have a fight after the game, it used to be part of the culture that it was okay to use sexist/racist abuse at a game, thankfully that for the most part has been dealt with, I just wish clubs would take more of a hardline with swearing being that they heavily promote football being a family event.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

You hear swearing all the time in all sports, just the way it is.

Ultimately the kids will pick it up at schools anyways

[Hero]

Can't recall the last time at snooker world finals when the crowd started the chant of 'the referee's a w**ker!', or at Wimbledon where the crowd join in unison telling Nadal to get a f**king move on with his intentional time delays between serves?

[GSC]

Its certainly immature. I'm not sure its a major outrage though

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I think there should be respect given to people's views on swearing in family enclosures. But that is where I draw the line. I will not spend my life bowing down to what people claim they are offended by. I've already had to do that today and I'm not happy about it. Swearing in football has been around long before "lad culture" as we know it existed. Before "lads" were having "banter" at the football I was taught about songs and swearing that go on there. It was made very apparent the line that was crossed when using those words in public.

You can try and hide from things if you want, but swearing is a part of the modern world. If they don't hear it at football they'll hear it at school, at the park, with friends. At the football with a parents there is a chance for some control, understanding and context.

Swearing itself is not offensive. It shows no lack of vocabulary. The high horse brigade can't win every battle.

[GSC]

So apparently Newcastle released Ryan Taylor by phone, then asked him to pass the phone to Guitierrez so he could be released too.

Classy

[Dolphin Ziggler]

"West Ham want to make an appointment in the next ten days"

Bilic, Bielsa, Emery and De Boer all having talks with West Ham. Dutch media claim De Boer is staying in Holland. Emery is wanted by us and Napoli, as well as Sevilla wanting to keep him.

[Nakatomi Plaza]

Bielsa would be superb entertainment. I believe he has another year on his contract at Marseille though.

[Guest]

So apparently Newcastle released Ryan Taylor by phone, then asked him to pass the phone to Guitierrez so he could be released too.

Classy

Been discussed already. The manner in which they did it was a disgrace, but it was the right decision. Media hyping it up because of Jonas' cancer & one goal vs WHU. Taylor can **** off acting all badly treated, the club backed & supported him through two blown knee injuries & couldn't afford to keep paying him millions for no game time. They knew they weren't being offered deals deep down, probably why they are already on the coaching courses in Ireland.

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