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Arsenal - Holymiky
Atletico Madrid - Nadeem
Barcelona - Trebs
Bayern Munich - Fernando
Borussia Dortmund - Viva
Chelsea - BamBam
Juventus - Hero
Man Citeh - Azzy the Fluffer
Paris St Germain - Enigma
Porto - Olly
Real Madrid - Marky


Week 4 Fixtures - Tactics due Monday 15th June by midnight
Voter Is Azzy & Man Citeh

Porto v Juventus
PSG v Dortmund
Real Madrid v Chelsea
Arsenal v Bayern Munich
Atletico Madrid v Barcelona

Afro wrote:

nadeem2099 wrote:5 on 2 is not fair on them tbh. They need at least one more player, he doesn't have to be world class. Tom Cleverley should join them to make it a fair match.

Don't start dissing Everton player

Its a compliment. How many times would you see Hazard and Cleverley in the same side together. With Cleverley's superb work ethic and Hazard's attacking ability, "Mourinho's Merseysiders" could be unstoppable.

Is it true that Jack Wilshere has been MOTM is 6 of England's last 7 games?

Afro wrote:Is it true that Jack Wilshere has been MOTM is 6 of England's last 7 games?

Yes its true.

Afro wrote:

Azzy wrote:

FIFA Diva wrote:Van der Sar; P.Neville, Johnsen, Stam, Silvestre; Park, Scholes, Fortune; Yorke, Saha, Cole

Van der Gouw, Irwin, Blackmore, Martin, Beardsmore, Poborsky, Thornley, Blomqvist, Ritchie, Dublin.

Butt; Jorginho, van Buyten, R.Kovac, Pflügler; van Bommel, Breitner, N.Kovac; Paulo Sergio, Makaay, Zickler.

On paper only van Bommel would get in your first half team. And you could probably have played RVP as he's not been seen in a red shirt since 2014

Breitner would walk into their first half team. He is arguably the best player (based on their primes) on the pitch

I was talking about now obviously

England's last 7 games

Slovenia
2-3
England

International Friendlies
R. of Ireland
0-0
England

International Friendlies
Italy
1-1
England

European Championship Qualifying - Group E
England
4-0
Lithuania

International Friendlies
Scotland
1-3
England

European Championship Qualifying - Group E
England
3-1
Slovenia

European Championship Qualifying - Group E
Estonia
0-1

Did Wilshere play in all these games? I don't think he did.

Marky wrote:Unless Olly plays. Hero's son needs to feature too, ahead of Hero.

We played a lads v dads end of season game on Saturday, I was marking Noah, he scored 5 goals. I scored 0.

Azzy wrote:

Afro wrote:

Azzy wrote:

FIFA Diva wrote:Van der Sar; P.Neville, Johnsen, Stam, Silvestre; Park, Scholes, Fortune; Yorke, Saha, Cole

Van der Gouw, Irwin, Blackmore, Martin, Beardsmore, Poborsky, Thornley, Blomqvist, Ritchie, Dublin.

Butt; Jorginho, van Buyten, R.Kovac, Pflügler; van Bommel, Breitner, N.Kovac; Paulo Sergio, Makaay, Zickler.

On paper only van Bommel would get in your first half team. And you could probably have played RVP as he's not been seen in a red shirt since 2014

Breitner would walk into their first half team. He is arguably the best player (based on their primes) on the pitch

I was talking about now obviously

Sorry. I think he is probably still better than Fortune even now.

I also like how they clearly ran out of "legends" so the second half team had Russell Beardsmore, Ben Thornley and Andy Ritchie in it.

Nad - that was why I had my doubts, but say Bellerin had tweeted it

Hero wrote:

Marky wrote:Unless Olly plays. Hero's son needs to feature too, ahead of Hero.

We played a lads v dads end of season game on Saturday, I was marking Noah, he scored 5 goals. I scored 0.

You should have got some tips from Maradona hero

It was pretty similar to that lad, just without the dog invasion and screaming witch.

Wilshere played against Slovenia, Ireland, Scotland, Slovenia, Estonia

He didn't play against Italy, Lithuania

So 5 of 7. And I do think it's true. He was MOM vs San Marino in the game before I believe, so 6/8.

So is this a sign that he is getting back towards his best and can achieve the potential he had 4 years ago.

Is that future Balloon Door still a possibility?

This is what Bellerin tweeted

- @JackWilshere 6 MOTM's in last 7 England games, but people (mostly from Birmingham) will still doubt him..

If he can stay fit, I do think he could do it. If Arsenal sign the players they need to make themselves a force, and Wilshere drives them onto CL success and a Prem title, then yes. But at the same time, he'd have to score tons to overcome the Messi-Ronaldo 300 goals a season conundrum. Or have some weird political movement to make him winner, explaining Ribery's bizarre nomination.

Playing well against Firemen and Lawyers dosen't really count does it?

FIFA Diva wrote:Playing well against Firemen and Lawyers dosen't really count does it?

What about the rest of the England team? It says that in 6/8 games he was better than all the other England players. None of them are firemen or lawyers (that I'm aware of anyway).

Azzy - I think you are right. We have two such dominant players that it is going to be difficult for anyone else to win it. Previous winners like Brazilian Ronaldo, Weah or Figo probably wouldn't get close these days.

nadeem2099 wrote:This is what Bellerin tweeted

- @JackWilshere 6 MOTM's in last 7 England games, but people (mostly from Birmingham) will still doubt him..

Sounds about right. Seems this league is a microcosm for the wider football community.

The year George Weah won it they could have skipped the year tbh, that was a political vote as he was making the soundings of running for Liberian President. Likely a Blatter award to shore up votes from Africa.

Bellerin, what a guy

Everyone seen the pic of Jack Grealish (supposedly) lying in the gutter in Tenerife? If it's him, I'd sign him to a long-term deal now then make him rot in the u14s for the next eight years.

Afro wrote:

FIFA Diva wrote:Playing well against Firemen and Lawyers dosen't really count does it?

What about the rest of the England team? It says that in 6/8 games he was better than all the other England players. None of them are firemen or lawyers (that I'm aware of anyway).

Azzy - I think you are right. We have two such dominant players that it is going to be difficult for anyone else to win it. Previous winners like Brazilian Ronaldo, Weah or Figo probably wouldn't get close these days.

The other English players have proved it where it really matters and at a higher level.

Azzy wrote:The year George Weah won it they could have skipped the year tbh, that was a political vote as he was making the soundings of running for Liberian President. Likely a Blatter award to shore up votes from Africa.

Bellerin, what a guy

Everyone seen the pic of Jack Grealish (supposedly) lying in the gutter in Tenerife? If it's him, I'd sign him to a long-term deal now then make him rot in the u14s for the next eight years.

Good job you're not manager, Giggs wouldn't have made it and countless others. His a 19 years old kid who's enjoying his time off, I'm angry at the person who took the picture of him.

He was wise to lay down the last time i were that hammered i threw up 6 times in 400m

FIFA Diva wrote:

Afro wrote:

FIFA Diva wrote:Playing well against Firemen and Lawyers dosen't really count does it?

What about the rest of the England team? It says that in 6/8 games he was better than all the other England players. None of them are firemen or lawyers (that I'm aware of anyway).

Azzy - I think you are right. We have two such dominant players that it is going to be difficult for anyone else to win it. Previous winners like Brazilian Ronaldo, Weah or Figo probably wouldn't get close these days.

The other English players have proved it where it really matters and at a higher level.

Where has Kieran Gibbs proven himself? Jordan Henderson? Fabian Delph? Andros Townsend? Phil Jones? Chris Smalling? Leighton Baines? Danny Welbeck? Theo Walcott? James Milner? None of them are big time performers. Cahill is a bottler who has only won trophies playing alongside one of the world's best ever CBs. Hart won the league behind Kompany and Zabaleta. Face it, Wilshere is one of England's best players and our only real game-changer. Barkley will never get there, the wingers are crud, Sterling is a mess, and Rooney is past it.

FIFA Diva wrote:

Afro wrote:

FIFA Diva wrote:Playing well against Firemen and Lawyers dosen't really count does it?

What about the rest of the England team? It says that in 6/8 games he was better than all the other England players. None of them are firemen or lawyers (that I'm aware of anyway).

Azzy - I think you are right. We have two such dominant players that it is going to be difficult for anyone else to win it. Previous winners like Brazilian Ronaldo, Weah or Figo probably wouldn't get close these days.

The other English players have proved it where it really matters and at a higher level.

So what your saying is that in 6/8 games he has outperformed players proven at a higher level. 6 games out of 8 isn't a flash in the pan

Azzy wrote:

FIFA Diva wrote:

Afro wrote:

FIFA Diva wrote:Playing well against Firemen and Lawyers dosen't really count does it?

What about the rest of the England team? It says that in 6/8 games he was better than all the other England players. None of them are firemen or lawyers (that I'm aware of anyway).

Azzy - I think you are right. We have two such dominant players that it is going to be difficult for anyone else to win it. Previous winners like Brazilian Ronaldo, Weah or Figo probably wouldn't get close these days.

The other English players have proved it where it really matters and at a higher level.

Where has Kieran Gibbs proven himself? Jordan Henderson? Fabian Delph? Andros Townsend? Phil Jones? Chris Smalling? Leighton Baines? Danny Welbeck? Theo Walcott? James Milner? None of them are big time performers. Cahill is a bottler who has only won trophies playing alongside one of the world's best ever CBs. Hart won the league behind Kompany and Zabaleta. Face it, Wilshere is one of England's best players and our only real game-changer. Barkley will never get there, the wingers are crud, Sterling is a mess, and Rooney is past it.

Good point (apart from the Baines and Bakley bits)

Fernando wrote:He was wise to lay down the last time i were that hammered i threw up 6 times in 400m

Running the 400m when you're bladdered isn't advisable.

Marky wrote:

Fernando wrote:He was wise to lay down the last time i were that hammered i threw up 6 times in 400m

Running the 400m when you're bladdered isn't advisable.

I was walking home at that point although more stumbling then walking...

England are crap and if you're comparing Jack against those shows how much you really rate. Wilshere was a prospect back in 2011 but since then he has gone backwards and I can't see him making the Arsenal first team ever again. Ozil, Cazorla, Sanchez, Giroud are light years ahead of him and thats not including the big signings Arsenal will sign yearly.. Oxo, Walcott, Ramsey, Gibbs, Welbeck are the players that he should be competing against but sadly he is below them and realistically he is on the Diaby/Flamini level.

Wilshere should drop down a couple of levels because its clear to see he isn't good enough anymore. Join a steady club like Everton/Stoke or even abroad and in a few years he may be on the level to play for a 5th club team.

Hi guys, just got back from holiday earlier today, will do my best to get tactics in and respond to transfers asap

Viva has gone into fail troll mode was alright til mentioned Diaby I bet he wishes United had a decent English midfielder

We did until the other day

Cleverley

I think they said that 17 out of the 23 England goals since the World Cup have been scored by Arsenal or United players.

Can you name the scorers of the other 6 (without googling it)?

Trebs wrote:We did until the other day

Cleverley

He's still your until 1st July.

Feel free to lay claim to him

Cahill? Townsend?

Id guess Sterling/Kane/Townsend at a minimum tbh.

Cahill - no
Sterling - yes (v Lithuania)
Kane - yes 9 (v Lithuania)
Townsend - yes (2 goals - 1 v San Marino, 1 v Italy)

Lallana,Chamberlain,Lambert?

Fernando wrote:Lallana,Chamberlain,Lambert?

Oxo has scored 1 v Scotland, but he counts as an Arsenal player, so isn't one of the two other

Bambinho how we're the hols

Afro wrote:

Fernando wrote:Lallana,Chamberlain,Lambert?

Oxo has scored 1 v Scotland, but he counts as an Arsenal player, so isn't one of the two other

Do own goals count cos then Henderson & I feel like Smalling or Jagielka botched one

Fernando wrote:

Afro wrote:

Fernando wrote:Lallana,Chamberlain,Lambert?

Oxo has scored 1 v Scotland, but he counts as an Arsenal player, so isn't one of the two other

Do own goals count cos then Henderson & I feel like Smalling or Jagielka botched one

I'll say own goals do count, but only we are only counting goals for England, not against them....[hint there!]

i.e. Della Valle scored an own goal when we played San Marino.

One left and it's not an own goal. it was the opening goal v San Marino

Being that hint & you only ever bring these things up with Everton players are involved id say Jagielka?

It was Jags.

Although in my defence, I posted the question of the back of a statistic and before I knew he was one of them. I only realised when I checked all the scorers just after I asked the question.

The other 17 scorers if you are interested are Rooney (8), Welbeck (6), Wilshere (2) and Oxo 1

Or Baines but I can't remember England scoring a free kick.

I can only remember Baines scoring one goal for England and that was a lucky free kick in the last qualifying campaign

FIFA Diva wrote:England are crap and if you're comparing Jack against those shows how much you really rate. Wilshere was a prospect back in 2011 but since then he has gone backwards and I can't see him making the Arsenal first team ever again. Ozil, Cazorla, Sanchez, Giroud are light years ahead of him and thats not including the big signings Arsenal will sign yearly.. Oxo, Walcott, Ramsey, Gibbs, Welbeck are the players that he should be competing against but sadly he is below them and realistically he is on the Diaby/Flamini level.

You're such a bad wum, honestly. You could even have gotten away with the Diaby comparison if it wasn't for stating that a CM should be competing for a place with strikers or left backs

Xbox is going to be backwards compability.

My dear sweet Azzy, I wasn't meaning direct competition with strikers but being on their level. Arsenal are moving forwards which means every player needs to be on the next level but sadly Wilshere is regressing.

Diaby compressions are fair.

Both players were talented, didn't know thier best position attacking or defensive and are injury prone.

Tactics sent to azzy.

Good luck trebs. Don't forget the deal we made. I go on your podcast and in return you can't play Messi and Suarez against me. I hope you are a man of your word and keep your promise. God bless you.

Yeah good luck in our game.

What i actually agreed was not to play pogba, james or gabi

Cheers for not playing them against me trebs. As a gesture of goodwill I will also not play Griezmann and Michael 'beast' Essien against you. Two of my most important players.