Brook vs ??

So it seems likely that the Rios fight isn't going to happen.
Hearn mentioned the other day that Top Rank have gone very quiet, Rios now less keen to travel.

Quite a few people weren't happy with that fight but at the very least Rios has fought at a decent level and is a "name".


Just watched a Khan interview and he suggested that two fighters are in the frame for Brook's next fight.

Van Heerden.... Or Bundu.

Some people have given Brook some leeway after being attacked but if his first three defences are:

Jo Jo Dan
Frankie Gavin
Van Heerden/Bundu

That's a pretty dire series of defences considering the fighters in the WW division.

Carson Jones 3.

Certainly won't be purchasing any of those fights...

Found it amusing last night when they said Gavin (2) in Britain was too accomplished to face Eggington (3) ....

Oh really ??

Khan (I wish)

Ashley Theopane ,

Anthony Mundine

Or

Michael Katsidis.

One thing that is guaranteed is it won't be a name, unless khan, mayweather or pacman give him a fight he'll continue fighting no bodies and this time they'll say "Rios backed out so we need to keep active.

I'm probably the only one, but very disappointed the Rios fight has fallen through over a rematch clause if that's what it was. Why not Thurman then? He must be available surely. This is disappointing to put it mildly.

Be a bit disappointed if he fights them mate.

I'd of though he would fight any of the following:

Rios
Thurman
Bradley
Khan
Guerrero
Berto
Garcia

Etc etc etc.

Just someone in the top ten please and I'll be happy

Brook v Eggington in September...........

"The British love an all British world title fight!!" - Eddie Hearn.

Lol yeh, it's such BS.

Brook has gone back to his pre-Hearn days practically....

I've got zero interest in Brook until he fights someone with a pulse. Had one fight against a decent level guy, ever.

Don't see why Khan gets lambasted for fighting perceived weak opposition, while chasing Mayweather and Brook gets away with doing the same thing chasing Khan. Must be the presence of Matchroom w*nkers on social media.

Yeh the latest matchbook garbage for the general public is that Frampton gets stopped in 5-6 rounds by Quigg which is the only reason Carl is looking at going up in weight....to avoid scott Quigg.

He then goes on to say he was knocked down by the 11th best in Mexico so what does that say?

Well Hearn, your boy Quigg got knocked down by an utter bum a while ago and he is now a fake champion.

Match room are becoming desperate idiots of the highest order along with Halling and the whole sky setup.

I do have a degree of sympathy with Hearn and Brook as they obviously wanted the Khan fight, and for as long as Floyd has Amir dangling on a string that is unlikely to happen. However the fact you cannot get your preferred fight does not excuse you to fight any old dross. It does amuse me slightly when people rupture a spleen over whether Khan deserves the shot at Floyd, but then suggest Brook should be getting the shot. Admired the Porter win greatly, good win and in his backyard, however there is only so much good will that buys him, and Dan and Gavin are going someway to undoing his good work.

Selling their men though MM8, you might not like how they do it but they do a very good job for their fighters.

Frampton left himself wide open for this by making up the weight excuse, as others have said, he should have just said he had an off night.

Quigg did really well but I do think they want to keep quiet until they announce his next opponent as every man and his dog knows he HAD to step up. My worry is that Bazza's ego won't be able to handle the crap that's going to be thrown about and that will scupper the fight we all want (again).

In short - Eddie, keep it schtum until after you've spoke to Cyclone again.

Why all the disappointment in Brooks potential next fight? He fights 1 name and his pre and post Porter CV is forgotten.

Fake champion is harsh, as I have said previously anyone other than Rigo calling themselves champion at that weight has to have an asterix against that. Should also point out the best name on Quigg's record is exactly the same name as it is for Frampton.

At the end of the day it was sloppy thirds for Quigg on Saturday and it was his hardest opponent
out of five defences..

Not a fake champion but I want to harder quarry than this before chucking too many compliments

Hearn has invested a lot into Brook. He wont fight anybody tough until its for big bucks

Hearn has said he's text Khan asking for an hour later this week to discuss a November fight with brook.

Who arranges khans fights? Haymon/goldenboy? Can never remember if Khan dropped goldenboy. Maybe Hearn should be talking Turkey with them. If the berto fight is made with floyd, Khan should take brook, unless pacquio is an option.

Brook needs to fight a decent opponent and stop calling out Khan as it's not going to happen straight away so move on

Shame about the Rios fight, Rios may be no world beater but he's never in a dull fight, has power, has good stamina and a iron chin. The closest Brook has come to losing is Jones who got him into a war and Rios has a superior inside game and superior chin than Jones. If it's going to be someone other than the big 2 or khan then why not a guy who'll bring the fire and make you look good. I get they would like a rematch clause but you'd think they are confident Brook would get past Brandon with a bit to spare.

The welterweight division is a tricky one, you got the ones protecting themselves just incase they get a shot at Mayweather which includes Thurman, Khan and now apparently Berto. Then you got the guys who look to be a bit past it and looking more likely to lose with each fight like Pacquiao, Bradley, JMM and Guerrero. The final lot are those that are good but not world class and have been exposed by now like Rios, Chaves, Collazo, Vargas, Provodnikov and Josesito Lopez.

My preference would be Maidana but he needs to stay away from the kitchen if he's going to fight again the mans massive. Based on form, youth, skill and availability the glaring choice is actually Porter, but there doesn't seem to be a market for a rematch.

Think Brooks a bit stuck, if i were him i'd bite the negotiation bullet and fight Rios or maybe look at Algieri and hope he can do what Khan and Pacquiao couldn't in stop him but again it isn't going to hold of the boo boys

Is Sadam Ali, not mandatory for the IBF Welterweight Title?

shenglong2015 wrote:Is Sadam Ali, not mandatory for the IBF Welterweight Title?

Maybe, but once again he's not going to win a lot of fans with that fight, Ali is unbeaten but hasn't really fought anyone except Abregu who likewise isn't anywhere near world level

Belts have rules, if you have worked your way up the IBF rankings, then you deserve your shot?

Otherewise its just anything goes. Which seems to be the way of it in boxing at the moment.

I know Dan Dan was mandatory don't know how long he has to have mandatory fights as that was only in march

Mandatory-voluntary-mandatory-voluntary etc.

Is generally the way it works, however mandatories can be paid to step aside, or alternatively a unification blocks any mandatory challenge.

Sometimes fighters (not mentioning any name (s)...ahem), have mulitiple belts so they are forvever fighting voluntaries and avoid dangerous mandatories by vacating belts etc.....

I doubt Brook will have to make a mandatory defence until at least next April.

If either of those 2 fighters are Brook's next opponent then it's embarrassing.

Hopefully they secure a bigger name and I heard Marquez is an option?

No reason for their not to be a big domestic showdown with Khan and ticks every box but Khan seems very much against it.

Your getting confused with boxers that care about what the fans want, and ones that want to ensure the make a mint first, before gambling.....

True Sheng, but Khan would earn probably £5m against Brook but at best £2m fighting anyone else (except Floyd or Manny and even then probably earn around £5m again).

If Brook does fight an another non-name/ranked opponent he'll be open to a lot of criticism and will deserve it.

He could be the Sven Ottke of his generation.

Valero's Conscience wrote:True Sheng, but Khan would earn probably £5m against Brook but at best £2m fighting anyone else (except Floyd or Manny and even then probably earn around £5m again).

If Brook does fight an another non-name/ranked opponent he'll be open to a lot of criticism and will deserve it.

He could be the Sven Ottke of his generation.

So instead of risking it all for one fight for £5m, just fight 2 bums in the year then. Same money earned, record in tact. Simple. This is what they do now. Thats why we continually see fighters avoiding eachother.

Disappointed in Brook, always liked his style and was frustrated by the bad luck which he seemed to get. Obviously Porter was a dangerous fighter and he came through good, but looks like the next time he faces a real challenge he will be 30 years old!
Although 30 is no longer what it was, he should be facing the big names whilst his youthful athleticism is maximum.

shenglong2015 wrote:

Valero's Conscience wrote:True Sheng, but Khan would earn probably £5m against Brook but at best £2m fighting anyone else (except Floyd or Manny and even then probably earn around £5m again).

If Brook does fight an another non-name/ranked opponent he'll be open to a lot of criticism and will deserve it.

He could be the Sven Ottke of his generation.

So instead of risking it all for one fight for £5m, just fight 2 bums in the year then. Same money earned, record in tact. Simple. This is what they do now. Thats why we continually see fighters avoiding eachother.

I know what you mean but Khan is begging for Floyd but won't get it, if he beats Brook he gets a legit belt, becomes a 2-weight champ and has much more to offer when negotiating big fights so seems counter productive to him.