Newcastle United News Thread!

by Young_Towzer Tue 31 May 2011, 21:49

First topic message reminder :

Toon fan in peace here, who would the fans like to see us buy and who are realistic targets for us?, i've made a few suggestions, opinions?.

Lewis McGugan - N.Forest
Shane Long - Reading
Daniel Sturridge - Chelsea - (Loan)
Jason Puncheon - Southampton
Kevin Doyle - Wolves
Demba Ba - West Ham
Mark Noble - West Ham
Nicky Maynard - Bristol City
Grant Holt - Norwich City
Roger Johnson - Birmingham City
Oba Martins - Whoever he's at !
Charles Nzogbia - Wigan
Hugo Rodallega - Wigan
Niko Kranjcar - Spurs
Giovanni - Spurs
Matthew Upson - West Ham
Taiwo - Marseille

Cheers
Steven.

by Guest Mon 25 Jul 2011, 09:59

I'm hoping some Spanish club will offer just close to £1m for him, just so we get a little bit of money.

Lovenkrands doesn't seem to be the quickest anymore, and his finishing leaves a lot to be desired.

by Beer Mon 25 Jul 2011, 10:08

Problem is, wherever he goes on loan he doesn't excel. He's just back up.

by Fernando Sat 30 Jul 2011, 15:11

for those with espn , erdinc is playing for psg in the emirates cup looks like a physical and quick player so far.

by Fernando Mon 01 Aug 2011, 14:32

Joey Barton on his Twitter feed today - "I will be making an announcement regarding my future, on here at 4pm today..."

by Beer Mon 01 Aug 2011, 15:05

Rumours now circulating that Joey Barton has been released.

by **Crimey** Mon 01 Aug 2011, 15:21

I can't imagine him doing that unless he had another club lined up, but if he did, why would he go to a club that wasn't even willing to stump up a transfer fee for him?

by Beer Mon 01 Aug 2011, 15:23

What do you mean 'him doing that'. 'Released' is just another way of saying 'sacked'.

by Fernando Mon 01 Aug 2011, 15:32

i don't get why newcastle would do that though could easily get 2-4m for him

by Beer Mon 01 Aug 2011, 15:32

Because they have had NO interest in him and he's constantly slagging the club off.

by **Crimey** Mon 01 Aug 2011, 15:33

I assumed he'd asked for his release and Newcastle had just given in because of the reason that fernando said.

by **Crimey** Mon 01 Aug 2011, 15:33

They could still have gotten some money out of him.

by Beer Mon 01 Aug 2011, 15:35

Club officials met him this morning and told him to leave.

How can you get money for someone if nobody wants to buy him?

by Fernando Mon 01 Aug 2011, 15:40

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_7076068,00.html

been confirmed

by **Crimey** Mon 01 Aug 2011, 15:59

King Beer wrote:Club officials met him this morning and told him to leave.

How can you get money for someone if nobody wants to buy him?

I just presumed, what with all the rumors about clubs being interested, at least one club would be willing to pay a small transfer fee to take him off your hands. If Marlon King can get signed, I would have thought Barton could be.

by Beer Mon 01 Aug 2011, 16:02

Marlon King isn't a gobshite. Joey's brought this on himself. Gutted to see him go out like this but at the same time it's his own fault.

by Guest Mon 01 Aug 2011, 16:05

Its a shame, Newcastle needed him next season.
Not sure on the whole story, but there were rumours he was offered a third of his current wages and he told them to stick it.

by Gregers Mon 01 Aug 2011, 16:56

Chelsea/Brighton fan in peace!

This is an awful bit of news, Barton was a great player for you last season. Would love him to come to Chelsea and give our midfield some steel Very Happy

by AberdeenSteve Mon 01 Aug 2011, 19:41

He shouldn't be signed by anyone, doesn't deserved to be paid what he is. He is a thug, and if the rumors about the contract are true then he is a bigger mug than first expected.

by Fernando Mon 01 Aug 2011, 19:49

Skysports.com understands that Arsenal, Tottenham and Stoke have made enquiries about Newcastle's Joey Barton.

by AberdeenSteve Mon 01 Aug 2011, 19:55

fernando wrote:Skysports.com understands that Arsenal, Tottenham and Stoke have made enquiries about Newcastle's Joey Barton.

Even bigger mugs than Barton himself. Fair play to Newcastle for actually standing up to the inbred.

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Tue 02 Aug 2011, 10:54

AberdeenSteve wrote:
fernando wrote:Skysports.com understands that Arsenal, Tottenham and Stoke have made enquiries about Newcastle's Joey Barton.

Even bigger mugs than Barton himself. Fair play to Newcastle for actually standing up to the inbred.

Newcastle are the ones who gave him the £60,000 per week contract in the first place! They should honour that contract. Its not like he is doing a Bullard and sitting on the injury table or in the stands. He is giving 100% week in week out and was probably Newcastle's best player last season.

And I think some Newcastle fans will agree that they will be worst off without him, unless the find a suitable replacement. Not placing him on the transfer list, even just for £2mill is just bizzare

by Guest Tue 02 Aug 2011, 11:47

Whilst I think we may be weaker in the midfield without him, I can see why the club want rid. He's badmouthed the club at talks and on twitter. I think Twitter has been the biggest downfall for him, he seems to think his tweets will get the fans on side, but only those with little to no brain cells will be on his side.

One part of me is sad to see him go because he was one of our best players last season, seemed quite likeable and was a force in the dressing room. But another part of me thinks that he has only had one good season since joining us, is on big wages and slags the club off quite frequently.

Signing up to Twitter stinks of McKay or a PR team to try and help Joey engineer a move away from the club or a better contract. With Nolan and Barton absent from the midfield this season we're a little light on numbers, but there's still a month of the window to go and I'm sure Pardew and Carr will hve something up their sleeves. Reserving judgement on how the board have dealt with all this until the end of the summer when all is done.

by Lumbering_Jack Tue 02 Aug 2011, 12:24

Churchill wrote:Whilst I think we may be weaker in the midfield without him, I can see why the club want rid. He's badmouthed the club at talks and on twitter. I think Twitter has been the biggest downfall for him, he seems to think his tweets will get the fans on side, but only those with little to no brain cells will be on his side.

One part of me is sad to see him go because he was one of our best players last season, seemed quite likeable and was a force in the dressing room. But another part of me thinks that he has only had one good season since joining us, is on big wages and slags the club off quite frequently.

Signing up to Twitter stinks of McKay or a PR team to try and help Joey engineer a move away from the club or a better contract. With Nolan and Barton absent from the midfield this season we're a little light on numbers, but there's still a month of the window to go and I'm sure Pardew and Carr will hve something up their sleeves. Reserving judgement on how the board have dealt with all this until the end of the summer when all is done.

Is what he said really that bad. Are you not allowed to be critical about your employer, it is not like thousands of other people dont do this week in, week out.

The fact that Jose, Nolan, Carroll etc.... all back up his stories speaks volumes.

by liverbnz Tue 02 Aug 2011, 12:57

I think the club are right to get shot. There are other more diplomatic ways of dealing with issues rather than spurting them all over twitter for the whole world to read. Also, I think it would be foolish to ignore what Barton is saying, especially as it's being backed up by others. From the sacking of Hughton to the selling of Carroll and Nolan, everything seems a little odd.

by Guest Tue 02 Aug 2011, 13:06

Jack there's a difference between talking about it between a few people and publishing it online for millions of people to read, and papers to publish the next morning. Carroll only went because it was a fantastic bid and we could do with money to spend, but Nolan/Barton/Jose all spoke out because the club wasn't prepared to pay them huge amounts of money per week. I think that speaks louder volumtes.

I understand the selling of Carroll, can sort of understand that the club wanted to cash in on Nolan rather than lose him- but Hughton going is still a mystery (Except MA wanted more of a yes man).

by liverbnz Tue 02 Aug 2011, 13:53

Churchill wrote:Jack there's a difference between talking about it between a few people and publishing it online for millions of people to read, and papers to publish the next morning. Carroll only went because it was a fantastic bid and we could do with money to spend, but Nolan/Barton/Jose all spoke out because the club wasn't prepared to pay them huge amounts of money per week. I think that speaks louder volumtes.

I understand the selling of Carroll, can sort of understand that the club wanted to cash in on Nolan rather than lose him- but Hughton going is still a mystery (Except MA wanted more of a yes man).

How much of Carroll's fee has been reinvested? Plus there'll now be savings on his, Nolan's and now Barton's wages. You could likely add Enrique to that at some point soon.

by Guest Tue 02 Aug 2011, 15:00

Around £7-8m has been put in to the club to improve the facilities. Nolan's fee covered Cabaye, and I'm guessing some of the money has gone in to be able to offer Ba and Marveaux decent wages. Rumours are that we've been after Erdinc and Neil Taylor (Close to £10m for both of them). So I'd say 2/3 of the money will have been spent by the end of the window. Then leave £10m in the coffers in case Pardew needs it at a later date. What would be the point on spending £30m straight away and not leave some for January or later?

by liverbnz Tue 02 Aug 2011, 16:12

Churchill wrote:Around £7-8m has been put in to the club to improve the facilities. Nolan's fee covered Cabaye, and I'm guessing some of the money has gone in to be able to offer Ba and Marveaux decent wages. Rumours are that we've been after Erdinc and Neil Taylor (Close to £10m for both of them). So I'd say 2/3 of the money will have been spent by the end of the window. Then leave £10m in the coffers in case Pardew needs it at a later date. What would be the point on spending £30m straight away and not leave some for January or later?

I was just being curious, that's all. No hidden agendas or anything, although I would have thought Newcastle would have a healthy turnover each year with their stadium capacity. And aren't they still receiving parachute payments following relegation, or do they stop once promoted again? Basically, what I'm saying is shouldn't their be a healthy profit there already to spend on players rather than having to sell Andy Carroll?

Edit: Just seen your wages/turnover ratio was 90% last season so that explains a lot.

by Small Time Tue 02 Aug 2011, 16:29

I really don't understand the "serves him right" attitude.......now he gets to sign for a club with ambition with the added bonus of a more than decent signing on fee with probably as good wages, it's not like he's lost his job and has to go on the dole is it? Yeah take that Barton, that'll teach you....LOL!

by Guest Tue 02 Aug 2011, 16:40

Liver, by my estimate, I come to us turning over a profit of around £5m or £6m for our first season back in the Premiership. I think Ashley would take that and try to get a bit more money back from the club before finally selling it on.

ST, by him not commanding a transfer fee you'd expect he'll probably be on wages equal, if not higher, to what he's on at the moment.

EDIT: Just saw he's been fined for his Twitter outburst, and he decides to announce it on Twitter.

by Kay Fabe Tue 02 Aug 2011, 19:44

I like Joey Barton, he should be in the England squad, Newcastle's loss will be a far more ambitious clubs gain

by Fernando Tue 02 Aug 2011, 19:49

2 of 4 clubs in the champions league and 4 other pl clubs + psg and malaga + a championship side are all looking at him

by Guest Tue 02 Aug 2011, 20:34

fernando wrote:2 of 4 clubs in the champions league and 4 other pl clubs + psg and malaga + a championship side are all looking at him

I wonder have accurate all this is- or have people just saw that PSG and Malaga have a Poopie load of money and could probably pay his wages.

Arsenal, Everton, Villa, Liverpool and Spurs to be 4/6 Prem clubs they mean, and Championship side would probably mean West Ham.

by **Crimey** Tue 02 Aug 2011, 20:35

I hope we're not interested in him! The last thing we need is another central midfielder.

by Fernando Tue 02 Aug 2011, 21:38

id thought id put this up seems to know what he's on about

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11979_7077518,00.html

by Guest Tue 02 Aug 2011, 21:40

the-gaffer wrote:I like Joey Barton, he should be in the England squad, Newcastle's loss will be a far more ambitious clubs gain

i wouldnt go that far..

with the midfielders that we have, barton wouldnt get in the squad, and isnt good enough to play for england

by Guest Tue 02 Aug 2011, 22:18

cricketfan90 wrote:
the-gaffer wrote:I like Joey Barton, he should be in the England squad, Newcastle's loss will be a far more ambitious clubs gain

i wouldnt go that far..

with the midfielders that we have, barton wouldnt get in the squad, and isnt good enough to play for england

Are we ignoring the fact he's had a better season than Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Carrick and possibly Parker. For me his passing is above all except Lampard on that list and he's not been afraid to stick a tackle in or run the line either.

by Guest Wed 03 Aug 2011, 12:05

Harper
Simpson
Enrique
Taylor
Coloccini

Jonas
Tiote
Cabaye
Marveaux

Ba
Ameobi

this really doesnt excite me at all this squad. ben arfa is a huge miss and take barton out = relegation struggle. If we los Ba to injury for a period we are in a mess. If we lose say the first 4 out of 6, the french will turn on pardew and he'll lose the dressing room. propa disappointed in whats happened.

by Guest Wed 03 Aug 2011, 12:08

Let's not forget there's still 25+ days left in the transfer market; with Barton leaving I'd like to see 1 centre midfielder, 1 winger and a couple of strikers join the club. Could possibly do with another fullback but we can manage without one if Jose stays.

by Beer Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:07

Apparently on Tuesday we opened talks with Barnetta again and The Sun (i know) are reporting that Ashley and Llambias are set to meet with Barton this week.

by Guest Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:16

Telegraph ran with the Barnetta story again today. It seems he's been a player we've been tracking for a long time. His agent says we've offered him £40k per week, less than his current wage. "As it stands there is not a hope in hell that he will be going to Newcastle. In fact I am angry at their attempts to do it, and behind my back also," Doesn't sound too promising.

In the space of a few days, the interest in Joey Barton has plummeted to just having Stoke interested. Think he'd do well there, a midfield of Pennant, Etherington, Barton and Delap with other players around it like Shawcross, Huth, Jones and Fuller.

Been reported Erdinc move might be dead. I have some faith in Ba and Best, but we need bodies upfront. Lee Ryder reporting we're looking at Obertan, I'd rather stay clear. Setanta reports the Enrique fee to be close to £10m, surely that could go on a striker. Can't think of many names, possibly Shane Long?

by Beer Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:22

No interest in Long apparently.

Express are reporting the Barton story now, could be an interesting few days.

by Guest Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:27

Struggling to think of strikers that might join the club. I think within the week we'll lose Barton and Enrique, I just hope we replace with people better than Bridge.

by Beer Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:30

I don't think Barton will go. Enrique can leave, it doesn't bother me.

Agree on Bridge, just depends what's out there, Warnock perhaps?

Striker wise, if it was me, i'd get Bellamy.

by Guest Thu 04 Aug 2011, 11:50

Always talk of Cheik M'Bengue when Enrique leaves. Warnock's getting quite old as well isn't he?

Bellamy would do the job; but it would be interesting to see how the rest of the fans took to him. Ba and Bellamy upfront would leave us strong.

George Caulkin makes a few good points on Twitter, an agent labelling a £40k wage 'ridiculous' is ridiclous in itself. Plus maybe trying to not go through an agent is a smart way of saving some money.

EDIT: Pardew always coems across as a really great person in press conferences I've found. No exception today. Was positive to hear him mention they have a plan if Jose goes, and wants to bring in a few new players as well.

by Guest Thu 04 Aug 2011, 14:44

pardew is usually well out of the loop in terms of whats going on at nufc. seriously pardew knows what ashley's thinkin - u must be joking! i'd expect enrique to liverpool early next week. wayne bridge is a shocker imo! seriously everyone we are linked to just makes me more depressed. crouch, bridge, erdinc, barnetta, obertan - i mean nothin special. doubt sturridge would come either!

by Guest Thu 04 Aug 2011, 14:58

I'm pretty sure Pardew works quite closely with Carr on who they want to sign. You can't expect him to come out and tell everyone they're planning on selling our best left back and probably won't be able to replace him with someone just as good.

Thing is, I'm pretty sure Crouch, Erdinc and Barnetta would improve on what we already have. I'm refusing to admit Bridge is a real target simply because he's too old, and Ashley only signs players if they have the potential of a resale value.

by **Crimey** Thu 04 Aug 2011, 15:09

I think Crouch would be a good signing for Newcastle, he's gor the experience, and I think is a decent player, as long as you have another striker he can play with.

Supposedly Warnock is being given another chance by McLeish so probably no chance of a deal. Can't think of any other decent young left backs that are up for grabs.

by Guest Thu 04 Aug 2011, 15:21

Don't think we'd put up enough to tempt Crouch, and he's over 26 as well. Left back wise after Enrique moves then I'd suspect we might see Jonas drop back there as he has before, or even Fergie. Both of them are more attacking players so we need to bring someone in.

Rumour doing the mill is a possible loan move for Obertan. He's done alright in pre-season and would give us some cover on the wings, but if Pardew wasn't manager I don't think Fergie would loan us anyone

by **Crimey** Thu 04 Aug 2011, 15:23

A possible move if Enrique does come to Liverpool is Insua (who's just come back from a loan move) moving in the opposite direction.

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