England vs Australia 4th Test, Trent Bridge

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As The Ashes thread has gone on a tangent arguing over who is SA's best fast bowler, let's get back on topic with a match thread.

Conditions for the 5 days look generally dry so there will be an almost certain result for either team. Also looking cloudy for large periods, so the loss of Anderson might be huge for England

England: Cook, Lyth, Bell, Root, Bairstow, Stokes, Buttler, Ali, Broad, Wood, Finn

Australia: Rogers, Warner, Smith, S Marsh, Clarke, Voges, Nevill, Johnson, Starc, Hazlewood, Lyon

Aussie commentator Jim Maxwell is seething:"This is one of the most embarrassing batting performances in Test history."

kpfan can suck my massive english d*ck.

thats all i have to say, thank you

Stokes drops one. Looks like the pressure got to him

GSC wrote:Stokes drops one. Looks like the pressure got to him

when your 300-5 at the end of day one it can hurt your confidence.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/62445.html

Quite similar? All the way back in 1896, though. Spirited comeback by Australia all to no avail.

Shot of the day so far that from Lyon.

I don't think KPF is coming back

GSC wrote:If I were an Aussie fan id be unresponsive by now

If you were an unresponsive Aussie you'd be in their top 6!

VTR wrote:

GSC wrote:If I were an Aussie fan id be unresponsive by now

If you were an unresponsive Aussie you'd be in their top 6!

This looks like their best partnership. Good classy batsmen.. you're not getting them out.

I miss the longer form of the game.... T20

trebellbobaggins wrote:This looks like their best partnership.  Good classy batsmen.. you're not getting them out.

Yup. I can see these two putting a century partnership together and really frustrating England.


*somebody pinch me...I'm sure I'm dreaming*

I don't mind this partnership lasting a while. Its brightening up, 40 mins at lunch will make a difference

Lyons playing himself in now, Aussie spinners batting 11 have previous here.

About time to get Ali on and build some pressure

dyrewolfe wrote:

trebellbobaggins wrote:This looks like their best partnership.  Good classy batsmen.. you're not getting them out.

Yup. I can see these two putting a century partnership together and really frustrating England.


*somebody pinch me...I'm sure I'm dreaming*

as low as that?

they're already laying down the deepest roots. I'd say a quickfire 300 once they get going.

CaledonianCraig wrote:Aussie commentator Jim Maxwell is seething:"This is one of the most embarrassing batting performances in Test history."

He's obviously not seen many England games over the years

the fours are flowing now.

3 notable absentees today: KP_Fan, Steffan (the Welsh Aussie), The Australian Cricket Team

Only added ten ; but these two have batted longer than any other pairing...

Need a Yorker ....nah , that'll do

Australia bowled out for 60. Twenty minutes before lunch on the first day with Broad with figures of 8 for 15.

the fanatics will be delighted, they exploded with delight at the 50 and then got 10 more.

we shall have to see though if eng can do anything here.

In a dream world i'd like them to get 350 but 150+ might be really hard.

8/15 for Broad!

What a morning. Australia clueless, inept, humiliated; England accurate, threatening.

Good fielding all round.

Ashes coming back home.

Broad 8 - 15

Extras top scored, and only two batsmen got into double figures. Carnage.

After all that, England ARE batting this morning.

Broad 8/15

Magic spell ...backed by brilliant catching

Up to the batsmen now...

Marky wrote:I agree it probably makes sense to bowl first, but if England without Anderson can't make inroads it will backfire in a big way.

Cracking prediction!

Oh no kpf was here earlier telling us how reliant England are on Anderson

To be fair noone could've confidently predicted this levels carnage, but it was always on the cards whichever team batted first.

The difference between this and lords can't just be down to a bit of grass and cloud though, it's pretty startling.

It should also put paid to the argument that England were demanding and cooking up dead pitches. Its seam movement that gives their bowlers the extra edge ( although again I can't believe that the absurd difference is solely down to that)

Duty281 wrote:

KP_fan wrote:England's seam bowling ability to be potent is reduced by 50% in the absence of anderson

Not every day is a sunday ...expect Aus to take advantage of missing....Anderson's.....show more resolve, greater depth of specialist batters.... and have a decent day....means around 300ish for 5

Cheers KP_fan.

After your initial foray of England won't even win a test in this series, this probably means Australia will struggle to hit three digits!

It did! And they didn't! Thank you KP_Fan.

Corporalhumblebucket wrote:

Marky wrote:I agree it probably makes sense to bowl first, but if England without Anderson can't make inroads it will backfire in a big way.

Cracking prediction!

To be fair I was right. If England couldn't make inroads it would have backfired.

Brilliant from Broad.

Corporalhumblebucket wrote:

Marky wrote:I agree it probably makes sense to bowl first, but if England without Anderson can't make inroads it will backfire in a big way.

Cracking prediction!

I think he was right though. He said IF England can't make inroads. Implying if they did, they would be ok

jbeadlesbigrighthand wrote:Extras top scored, and only two batsmen got into double figures. Carnage.

And a quick check of Cricinfo suggests that in innings where extra has top scored, the figure for extras has only been lower three times.

I'm not dreaming , am I ? Really did see all that ?

And there was I counseling "bat first , chaps " this morning

I suppose one should remember the old " wait until both teams have batted on it " ; but really...

I really don't think the pitch is doing that much. It is more to do with poor technique and the Aussies being mentally shot for me. I say this as the tail-enders actually showed that hanging around was far from impossible. England's task now is to pile on the runs, pile on the agony and pile on the pressure. If England can build a lead of 200 I'd say the urn is as good as won.

Like I said bebore though lets see how things stand after both teams have batted and then we'll get a far better idea of how things stand.

alfie wrote:I'm not dreaming , am I ?  Really did see all that ?

And there was I counseling "bat first , chaps " this morning  

I suppose one should remember the old " wait until both teams have batted on it " ; but really...

It was bowl first, even if we get toppled for 120.

Broad's 8-15 is the 21st Best bowling analysis of all time

Amazingly its only the third cheapest 8-for!

Unbelievable morning for England.

I'd like to say well done on a fantastic performance, but reading the BBC's text commentary it seems the Aussies were the architects of their own downfall.

Regardless, a great display by Broad...has to rank up there with his best, surely?

Lets just hope England don't emulate the Aussies' batting performance. Would like to see us get 250 at least. Ought to be enough to guarantee the win (providing the rain holds off)

Why does Cook not take the first ball?

Lyth 100 would be lovely

Lyth already outscored the Aussie top 3...

Stella wrote:

alfie wrote:I'm not dreaming , am I ?  Really did see all that ?

And there was I counseling "bat first , chaps " this morning  

I suppose one should remember the old " wait until both teams have batted on it " ; but really...

It was bowl first, even if we get toppled for 120.

Oh I think I'd agree with that

But I was a little apprehensive overnight about sending them in without Jimmy on duty...mind you , I hadn't seen the actual pitch and conditions then !
Though as Craig suggests , I'm not sure it is a monster - and surely not a 60 all out strip !

Australia were 3 down at this point

The aussies must have felt confident when Jimmy was out but then as soon As Broad hit form they were shot.

Mustn't get ahead of ourselves though. This rebuilding England side have a long way to go but it's always nice when they can perform like that with the ball.

alfie wrote:

Stella wrote:

alfie wrote:I'm not dreaming , am I ?  Really did see all that ?

And there was I counseling "bat first , chaps " this morning  

I suppose one should remember the old " wait until both teams have batted on it " ; but really...

It was bowl first, even if we get toppled for 120.

Oh I think I'd agree with that

But I was a little apprehensive overnight  about sending them in without Jimmy on duty...mind you , I hadn't seen the actual pitch and conditions then !
Though as Craig suggests , I'm not sure it is a monster - and surely not a 60 all out strip !

Well you just need to look who the top scorer for Australia was - Mitchell Johnson. Not a top order batsman by any means and lower order stuck around much longer too. That is not the characteristics of a minefield of a batting strip.

Beginning to think the record for fastest 5 wickets might be safe

No strip is a 60ao strip. Even that corrugated iron one in the Windies where the Test got abandoned.

Dreadful from the Aussies - England need to keep their heads now and trust it isn't the minefield it was made to look. 300 and its all over

but could aussie not then get 350+ and make it a game VTR?

trebellbobaggins wrote:but could aussie not then get 350+ and make it a game VTR?

They could. If they can win from here fair play to them, it would be the greatest comeback in the history of cricket and possibly all sport

England 9-0 at lunch. Bit of a slow scoring session for us, must've rained