Ireland v Scotland, 15 August

by **George Carlin** Sun Aug 09, 2015 1:04 pm

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IRELAND v SCOTLAND
15 August 2015
KO: 17:00 local
Aviva Stadium, Dublin

Live on Sky Sports at Notch's house

Referee: Pascal Gaüzère (France)
Assistant Referees: [TBC]
TMO: [TBC]

A. Head to Head

130 Played 130
59 Won 66
5 Drawn 5
66 Lost 59
1,416 Points 1,420

B. Recent Form

21 March 2015
BT Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
10 – 40 to Ireland

2 February 2014
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
28 – 6 to Ireland

24 February 2013
Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
12 – 8 to Scotland

10 March 2012
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
32 – 14 to Ireland

6 August 2011
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
10 – 6 to Scotland

27 February 2011
Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
18 – 21 to Ireland

20 March 2010
Croke Park, Dublin
20 – 23 to Scotland

C. Teams

IRELAND
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15. Simon Zebo (Cork Constitution/Munster)
14. Tommy Bowe (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)
13. Jared Payne (Ulster)
12. Gordon D'Arcy (Lansdowne/Leinster)
11. Luke Fitzgerald (Blackrock/Leinster)
10. Ian Madigan (Blackrock/Leinster)
09. Isaac Boss (Terenure/Leinster)

08. Sean O'Brien (UCD/Leinster) capt
07. Chris Henry (Malone/Ulster)
06. Jack Conan (Old Belvedere/Leinster)*
05. Dan Tuohy (Ballymena/Ulster)
04. Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster)
03. Mike Ross (Clontarf/Leinster)
02. Sean Cronin (St Mary's College/Leinster)
01. Dave Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster)

16. Richardt Strauss (Old Wesley/Leinster)
17. Michael Bent (Dublin University/Leinster)
18. Nathan White (Connacht)*
19. Paul O'Connell (Young Munster/Munster)
20. Jordi Murphy (Lansdowne/Leinster)
21. Eoin Reddan (Old Crescent/Leinster)
22. Paddy Jackson (Dungannon/Ulster)
23. Dave Kearney (Lansdowne/Leinster)

SCOTLAND
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15 Ruaridh Jackson (Wasps)
14 Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors)
13 Richie Vernon (Glasgow Warriors)
12 Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors)
11 Tim Visser (Harlequins)
10 Greig Tonks (Edinburgh Rugby)
09 Henry Pyrgos CAPTAIN (Glasgow Warriors)

01 Ryan Grant (Glasgow Warriors)
02 Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors)
03 Jon Welsh (Newcastle Falcons)
04 Jim Hamilton (Saracens)
05 Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh Rugby)
06 Blair Cowan (London Irish)
07 Hugh Blake (Glasgow Warriors)
08 David Denton (Edinburgh Rugby)

16 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby)
17 Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors)
18 Mike Cusack (Glasgow Warriors)
19 Rob Harley (Glasgow Warriors)
20 John Barclay (Scarlets)
21 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (Edinburgh Rugby)
22 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors)
23 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby)

by **rodders** Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:58 pm

Well looks as suspected that Zebo and Felix Jones are competing for one space.

Bowe starting at 14 is bad news for Trimble I think - if Joe was considering taking both I think he'd have tried one at 11.

O'Brien at 8 is interesting - could be that Schmidt is considering one less back row and maybe Murphy isn't as nailed on as thought.

Fantastic to see so much depth building and to be able to make so many changes and still put out such a strong side.

by **Notch** Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:00 pm

My first choice Ireland team would be;

1. Cian Healy
2. Rory Best
3. Mike Ross
4. Devin Toner
5. Paul O'Connell
6. Peter O'Mahony
7. Sean O'Brien
8. Jamie Heaslip
9. Conor Murray
10. Jonny Sexton
11. Keith Earls
12. Robbie Henshaw
13. Jared Payne
14. Andrew Trimble
15. Rob Kearney

So you can see the majority of our very best players have the weekend off completely. It's a real luxury being able to leave 10 first choice players out and still have such a strong looking XV.

by Prothero Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:20 pm

The Jackson Tonks interchange may be part of our plan for Russell and Hogg, ie Hogg/ Jackson Coming in at first receiver.
Jackson played a few times for Glasgow at 15, it shouldn't phase him to much?

by Sin é Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:28 pm

Artful_Dodger wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:That is a much stronger team than they put out last week.

Could be messy!

In some ways it is, more established first teamers starting. But its more experimental in that some of them are out of position (Zebo at 15, O'Brien at 8) and as you said come scrum time that tight 5 is not strong without Healy or McGrath at 1.

Not to mention Sean Cronin's inability to either hook or scrummage. Great carrier though!

by **NeilyBroon** Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:44 pm

I'm going to remain blindly optimistic. Jackson will surprise us by doing a Hogg and running from the Scottish to the Irish try-line, spinning and dancing around D'Arcy, flying past Tommy Bowe before doing a heel flick chip over Zebo's head catching the ball mid-swan dive before smashing the ball down in his mighty fist over the try line.

We'll do just fine lads.

On a serious note our team doesn't look too horrific. Admittedly the prospects of winning against Ireland are pretty slim but FB/FH swap aside, it's a fairly standard Scottish XV. I don't think Lamont is there to skin anyone, probably just to sure up the backs defence, which should be pretty solid with Vernon and Horne in midfield. As for Visser... well we better hope Jackson's got his tackling head on. I like Pyrgos, I think if anyone can manage this mishmash of players he can. He's supported Horne through several games at fly half for Glasgow, I think he'll do the same for Tonks, I'm hoping he can do a job at FH, it'd be good to have the extra cover.

Forwards don't look too horrific either. Hasn't Cowan played at 6 for LI a fair few times? Either way he can do less harm on the penalty count at 6 if we have an out and out 7 playing too. I'm not a huge fan of Denton but he has his moments, if he just knuckles in and does the basics well I'll be happy. Second row, again solid, can't really complain. Front row is probably what I'm most interested to see (apart from the FH/FB switch) as they all have a point to prove. Agree with above posters its a shame McInnally isn't involved but hopefully he'll be over his stomach bug soon. Maybe he saw the teamsheet and suddenly became 'very ill'.

In summary, we're likely to lose, but I don't think it'll be quite as dire as people are predicting. I'd say maybe by 10.

by Sin é Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:46 pm

Zebo is not a bench option if Luke Fitz starts. He either starts or is out of the 23 (all to do with left/right footed players with Luke Fitz, Rob Kearney and Zebo all left footed. Even with Jones being left footed, McFadden was moved to the right wing when Zebo came on for Andrew Trimble.

Schmidt would not chance having 3 left sided players on the pitch at the same time (he said this when he dropped Zebo for the Scotland game). Note, he had an unused Felix Jones on the bench.

by **Notch** Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:55 pm

rodders wrote:Well looks as suspected that Zebo and Felix Jones are competing for one space.

If so it leaves the possibility of four centres and four back three players- since if Payne and Earls travel as two of the centres they can cover fullback and wing respectively.

by **profitius** Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:11 pm

It'll be interesting to see how Conan goes. He is highly rated and is usually seen as a big ball carrying 8. Understandable that he has been moved to 6 to see how he goes. With TOD out as well as Ruddock, we're only another injury away from the backrow options being really stretched.

by Tattie Scones RRN Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:06 pm

NeilyBroon wrote:I'm going to remain blindly optimistic. Jackson will surprise us by doing a Hogg and running from the Scottish to the Irish try-line, spinning and dancing around D'Arcy, flying past Tommy Bowe before doing a heel flick chip over Zebo's head catching the ball mid-swan dive before smashing the ball down in his mighty fist over the try line.

We'll do just fine lads.

On a serious note our team doesn't look too horrific. Admittedly the prospects of winning against Ireland are pretty slim but FB/FH swap aside, it's a fairly standard Scottish XV. I don't think Lamont is there to skin anyone, probably just to sure up the backs defence, which should be pretty solid with Vernon and Horne in midfield. As for Visser... well we better hope Jackson's got his tackling head on. I like Pyrgos, I think if anyone can manage this mishmash of players he can. He's supported Horne through several games at fly half for Glasgow, I think he'll do the same for Tonks, I'm hoping he can do a job at FH, it'd be good to have the extra cover.

Forwards don't look too horrific either. Hasn't Cowan played at 6 for LI a fair few times? Either way he can do less harm on the penalty count at 6 if we have an out and out 7 playing too. I'm not a huge fan of Denton but he has his moments, if he just knuckles in and does the basics well I'll be happy. Second row, again solid, can't really complain. Front row is probably what I'm most interested to see (apart from the FH/FB switch) as they all have a point to prove. Agree with above posters its a shame McInnally isn't involved but hopefully he'll be over his stomach bug soon. Maybe he saw the teamsheet and suddenly became 'very ill'.

In summary, we're likely to lose, but I don't think it'll be quite as dire as people are predicting. I'd say maybe by 10.

Like your optimism Neily, but I can't see anything less than a severe 20 yard dry run up royal painful pumping.

Hopefully the Irish will lube up first.

by **NeilyBroon** Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:14 pm

Tattie Scones RRN wrote:
NeilyBroon wrote:I'm going to remain blindly optimistic. Jackson will surprise us by doing a Hogg and running from the Scottish to the Irish try-line, spinning and dancing around D'Arcy, flying past Tommy Bowe before doing a heel flick chip over Zebo's head catching the ball mid-swan dive before smashing the ball down in his mighty fist over the try line.

We'll do just fine lads.

On a serious note our team doesn't look too horrific. Admittedly the prospects of winning against Ireland are pretty slim but FB/FH swap aside, it's a fairly standard Scottish XV. I don't think Lamont is there to skin anyone, probably just to sure up the backs defence, which should be pretty solid with Vernon and Horne in midfield. As for Visser... well we better hope Jackson's got his tackling head on. I like Pyrgos, I think if anyone can manage this mishmash of players he can. He's supported Horne through several games at fly half for Glasgow, I think he'll do the same for Tonks, I'm hoping he can do a job at FH, it'd be good to have the extra cover.

Forwards don't look too horrific either. Hasn't Cowan played at 6 for LI a fair few times? Either way he can do less harm on the penalty count at 6 if we have an out and out 7 playing too. I'm not a huge fan of Denton but he has his moments, if he just knuckles in and does the basics well I'll be happy. Second row, again solid, can't really complain. Front row is probably what I'm most interested to see (apart from the FH/FB switch) as they all have a point to prove. Agree with above posters its a shame McInnally isn't involved but hopefully he'll be over his stomach bug soon. Maybe he saw the teamsheet and suddenly became 'very ill'.

In summary, we're likely to lose, but I don't think it'll be quite as dire as people are predicting. I'd say maybe by 10.

Like your optimism Neily, but I can't see anything less than a severe 20 yard dry run up royal painful pumping.

Hopefully the Irish will lube up first.

It's a sad state of affairs when optimism is predicting a 10 point loss! picard

by funnyExiledScot Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:30 pm

Well, not at all what I wanted or predicted from Cotter. The team selection looks a complete shambles to me, obviously hope to be proved wrong!

My prediction is so dire from a Scottish perspective I'm going to keep it to myself!

by Tattie Scones RRN Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:45 pm

TBH, there will be some competitive parts (front row and medical staff) but this selection is precisely why 4 warm up games is a total nonsense.

I really cannot think what the coaching staff are going to learn from this team.

Unless it's a plan to increase the bookies odds from 250/1 to 1000/1 for Scotland winning the tournament. I'd put 10p on E/W.

by Prothero Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:47 pm

If we assume that Tonks and Jackson are going to interchange and that Hugh Blake has impressed so much over the last month in camp that Cotter has had to pick him over the other options available to him then we might be ok?

Every single player in that starting Scottish 15 is playing for his World cup Jersey and knows will need to put on a show to stay in Big Verns Thoughts.

Lamont in place of Tommy Semore is a shame but Lamont never lets anyone down, adds Defensive nous and is still a big part of the Pro 12 winning backline.

by jimbopip Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:23 pm

My only question is; did the bufties at Murrayfield see this teamsheet before granting VC his new contract?

by **Notch** Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:27 pm

Guys, if Scotland lose- does it matter? Really matter?

No, the point of this game is to learn if certain player can fill in in other positions in an emergency and get guys on the fringes of the squad game time. As you get closer and closer to the start of the RWC you will stronger team selections and a more competitive selection policy.

I don't understand why the doom and gloom. It's very important to try and win every time you pull on a test jersey but almost any coach will be willing to sacrifice these warm-ups to prepare for the World Cup.

by **George Carlin** Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:57 pm

Notch - no, of course it doesn't matter if we lose (which is just as well, really). The disappointment comes from the fact that Cotter could have approached selection for these games in a number of different ways. We had to wait until this lunchtime to see how we would do it.

It was obvious that some experimentation was on the cards and once this series is over, we will doubtless be appreciative of how much we've learned about the players.

It's just that nobody really wanted a clear and unequivocal 'B' team selection with some genuinely off the wall choices. NOBODY saw Jackson getting selected at 15, for example.

Scotland fans have just got used to the idea that they will see players whom they don't often get a chance to see. But the utter lack of cohesion in the main units means that we will almost certainly lose fairly heavily. Like being offered half a cupcake. Nice, but nobody really wants it.

by **Notch** Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:04 pm

Aye it would be off the wall in a normal game, but say against Samoa the scores are tied, it's the last seven minutes, your fullback goes over on his ankle and the only unused replacement is Jackson... It's just contingency planning for when they pick the bench as far as I can see.

by **Notch** Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:05 pm

Btw, it's on Sky Sports so you can update that bit of the OP

by **George Carlin** Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:43 pm

OP updated, squire.

The other thing is that there are individual players there that we have waited to see for a while (Blake at 7, Tonks at 10, Barclay at 7/8) and hoped we would see in the 6N. Now we are going to get to see them, but in the context of what will be an unsettled and unfamiliar squad set-up, which is unlikely to let them play to their optimal level.

Again, annoying and hardly ideal.

by **Notch** Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:59 pm

You want to go to my house and watch its thats fine, cos I'm going to Dublin for the game Cool

by Pot Hale Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:32 am

Something tells me that this match is not going to go exactly as planned or foreseen in the winning and losing stakes.

There will be a lot of eager hands out there - on both sides - looking to make a showing.

I'm not sure how well equipped a half-back combo of Boss and Madigan is going to be in executing a JS game plan - I don't rate either of them for their pinpoint kicking.

Darcy and Payne haven't spent much time together in midfield. Zebo at FB is going to have work on his positioning an awful lot more. Fitzgerald and Bowe will need to light up the sidelines if they're going to score.

Good to see Kilcoyqne getting a run-out, - he'll be raring to go. Cronin throwing into an unfamiliar lineout will be interesting to watch. Do Tuohy and Toner know each other yet?

Conan at 6, and O'Brien at 8. Are we going to see an awful lot of SOB out in midfield? How good a bullocker is Conan going to be, and will Pyrgos keep him on his toes?

I think there'll be a fair few possible gaps for Scotland to make headway in.

Don't throw in the towel just yet, laddies.....

by **George Carlin** Fri Aug 14, 2015 9:54 am

Scotland fans should note Cotter's comments in the pre-match interviews yesterday saying that Bennett will be available for the next match, with Dunbar still only 50:50 on whether he will be fit enough in time to make the cut.

by **Notch** Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:33 am

Last time Tuohy and Toner played together was the last time we played Scotland in Dublin and they did just fine.

by **RDW** Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:43 am

A bit more on Bennett and Dunbar:

Big scary baldy wrote:“Mark has got another week to reinforce his shoulder,” said the coach. “He’s probably 1 per cent off getting on the paddock, so we didn’t risk it this week. He will be available, I think, as from next week.”

The situation surrounding fellow Warriors midfielder Alex Dunbar is more precarious. Cotter said: “At the moment it’s 50-50. We don’t know. I was never any good at gambling. The bets I put on the horses I lost every one.

“We’ll have to make a decision based on where he’s at, and I think over the next two weeks we’ll get an idea whether it’s positive, and we can hope, or whether it’s going to be we might have to think about other options now.”

by kilo-doug Fri Aug 14, 2015 3:19 pm

Anyone thinking that the SRU should be looking to send Alex Dunbar on the first flight to Fiji and have him booked into the same clinic that the All Blacks winger (Naholo was it?) was just at?

by 123456789 Fri Aug 14, 2015 3:32 pm

Based on the fact that Vern is on record as saying 4 is too many warm up games, it could be that this one is simply to establish some facts. I.e:
Whether Jackson can play in two positions and therefore bringing something Weir doesn't, or even opening up the possibility of 3 10s
Similar with Greig Tonks
Whether Hugh Blake can cut it at this level
Whether Lamont is still a viable option, it could be a Mike Phillips last chance kind of situation with Hoyland coming through

I think Vern has thrown this game in an attempt to establish some facts and if it works in the long run I see no issue, I expect we'll see a similar experimental selection for the next warm up before we start seeing the makings of the first XV. Remember last time when we had only two warm ups and so not only didn't get the chance to try out such combinations but also went into the tournament severely undercooked and came so close to losing to Romania as a result. We never know we might see a 20 point win and the emergence of Hugh Blake as a genuine international option, we probably won't but if he has a stormer and does well in the World Cup as a result then it'll be worth any defeat in my mind.

by nickj Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:23 pm

The big question is whether its worth a tenner day pass?

by **George Carlin** Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:52 pm

kilo-doug wrote:Anyone thinking that the SRU should be looking to send Alex Dunbar on the first flight to Fiji and have him booked into the same clinic that the All Blacks winger (Naholo was it?) was just at?

A broken bone would have been greatly preferable to the shredded ACL that Dunbar got. I think that the SRU spent a fortune sending Dunbar to that keyhole surgery specialist in Philadelphia so if he doesn't make it, it does seem like this is one of those rare occasions where the SRU is not to blame.

by RuggerRadge2611 Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:24 pm

George Carlin wrote:
kilo-doug wrote:Anyone thinking that the SRU should be looking to send Alex Dunbar on the first flight to Fiji and have him booked into the same clinic that the All Blacks winger (Naholo was it?) was just at?
A broken bone would have been greatly preferable to the shredded ACL that Dunbar got. I think that the SRU spent a fortune sending Dunbar to that keyhole surgery specialist in Philadelphia so if he doesn't make it, it does seem like this is one of those rare occasions where the SRU is not to blame.

The last thing I want is to rush Dunbar back, ala Sy Taylor. The ACL is a wretched injury to sustain. I'd rather he missed the RWC if that meant we would get more out of him for the rest of his career.

by Nematode Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:29 pm

Really looking forward to seeing how Hugh Blake goes. From the SRU's twitter feed he seems to be one of the fittest players in the squad but he's had next to no professional XV rugby in the past year.

by alive555 Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:36 pm

Nematode wrote:Really looking forward to seeing how Hugh Blake goes. From the SRU's twitter feed he seems to be one of the fittest players in the squad but he's had next to no professional XV rugby in the past year.

seems like a nice lad. best of luck tommorrow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLY41ni8c0k

by GLove39 Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:31 pm

nickj wrote:The big question is whether its worth a tenner day pass?

Morally no.

But it's a pretty tasty billing all the same. (edit) and day passes now seem to be going for only £6.99...

New Zealand 08:35 Australia - Sky Sports 3 HD

Ireland 17:00 Scotland - Sky Sports 1 HD

England 20:00 France - Sky Sports 1 HD

Argentina 20:40 South Africa - Sky Sports 2 HD

by Guest Fri Aug 14, 2015 9:05 pm

Ages since I've posted here but been ghosting all the while ... I'm taking father on a 50th hoohaw in London tomorrow and we'll finish in time for the 2nd half. Any advice on a pub that would be showing this near Westminster ? I know my way about so anywhere within 15m tube useful just don't know the rugby pubs!

by Guest Fri Aug 14, 2015 9:06 pm

That's 15 minutes not metres !

by TJ Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:39 am

Well I didn't see that coming!

Cotter clearly has a plan. We will see how good it is
Hopefully

by GLove39 Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:50 am

David Denton would be really beneficial at prop - Colin Deans

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/33942689

Let's just be thankfull that whilst BVC is having fun swapping his fullbacks & fly halfs around he hasn't gone totally bat Poopie crazy

by **RDW** Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:52 am

That is the worst idea I've read in a long time - what the hell??

by maestegmafia Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:06 am

Sin é wrote:Zebo is not a bench option if Luke Fitz starts. He either starts or is out of the 23 (all to do with left/right footed players with Luke Fitz, Rob Kearney and Zebo all left footed. Even with Jones being left footed, McFadden was moved to the right wing when Zebo came on for Andrew Trimble.

Schmidt would not chance having 3 left sided players on the pitch at the same time (he said this when he dropped Zebo for the Scotland game). Note, he had an unused Felix Jones on the bench.

Most left footers are far more ambidextrous than right footers

by Marshes Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:48 am

maestegmafia wrote:
Sin é wrote:Zebo is not a bench option if Luke Fitz starts. He either starts or is out of the 23 (all to do with left/right footed players with Luke Fitz, Rob Kearney and Zebo all left footed. Even with Jones being left footed, McFadden was moved to the right wing when Zebo came on for Andrew Trimble.

Schmidt would not chance having 3 left sided players on the pitch at the same time (he said this when he dropped Zebo for the Scotland game). Note, he had an unused Felix Jones on the bench.

Most left footers are far more ambidextrous than right footers

Slightly tangentially related, but why does Ireland have so many left footed options in sports? It seems higher compared to at least other home nations...

by Tattie Scones RRN Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:48 am

If anyone could send me a link to the game this afternoon, I'd be very grateful.

by alive555 Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:13 pm

Tattie Scones RRN wrote:If anyone could send me a link to the game this afternoon, I'd be very grateful.

check pm

by **RDW** Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:15 pm

Baws - having dinner at the in-laws tonight so will probably miss the game. Detailed updates on here would be appreciated!

by Tattie Scones RRN Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:00 pm

Cheers Alive555

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:42 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:That is the worst idea I've read in a long time - what the hell??

The reason Colin Deans made this statement was that he thought Denton was a poor and negative 8 who cannot/will not offload and constantly goes to ground in good attacking positions and therefore would be better at 1/3. He (Denton) i playing for a place today along with a few others- notably Hamilton and Gilchrist at 4/5. Battle to see who is least crap - my money would be on Hamilton.

by **RDW** Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:46 pm

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:That is the worst idea I've read in a long time - what the hell??

The reason Colin Deans made this statement was that he thought Denton was a poor and negative 8 who cannot/will not offload and constantly goes to ground in good attacking positions and therefore would be better at 1/3. He (Denton) i playing for a place today along with a few others- notably Hamilton and Gilchrist at 4/5. Battle to see who is least crap - my money would be on Hamilton.

Whether that is that truth or not, making a 6ft 5 number 8 a tighthead prop certainly won't fix it!

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:57 pm

That is precisely(!) what Peter Wright said reply.

by GLove39 Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:20 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Baws - having dinner at the in-laws tonight so will probably miss the game. Detailed updates on here would be appreciated!

Probably a blessing in disguise.

by tigertattie Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:43 pm

alive555 wrote:
Tattie Scones RRN wrote:If anyone could send me a link to the game this afternoon, I'd be very grateful.

check pm

Share the wealth please

by jimbopip Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:54 pm

Tigertattie, have pm'ed you.

Am I the only one looking forward to the game and thinking Scotland might actually win?

by Tattie Scones RRN Sat Aug 15, 2015 7:03 pm

jimbopip wrote:Tigertattie, have pm'ed you.

Am I the only one looking forward to the game and thinking Scotland might actually win?

Yes.

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