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Post by George Carlin Sun 09 Aug 2015, 10:04 am

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Ireland v Scotland, 15 August - Page 6 Irelan10    Ireland v Scotland, 15 August - Page 6 Scot_f10
IRELAND v SCOTLAND
15 August 2015
KO: 17:00 local
Aviva Stadium, Dublin

Live on Sky Sports at Notch's house

Referee: Pascal Gaüzère (France)
Assistant Referees: [TBC]
TMO: [TBC]

A. Head to Head

130 Played 130
59 Won 66
5 Drawn 5
66 Lost 59
1,416 Points 1,420

B. Recent Form

21 March 2015
BT Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
10 – 40 to Ireland

2 February 2014
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
28 – 6 to Ireland

24 February 2013
Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
12 – 8 to Scotland

10 March 2012
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
32 – 14 to Ireland

6 August 2011
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
10 – 6 to Scotland

27 February 2011
Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
18 – 21 to Ireland

20 March 2010
Croke Park, Dublin
20 – 23 to Scotland

C. Teams

IRELAND
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15. Simon Zebo (Cork Constitution/Munster)
14. Tommy Bowe (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)
13. Jared Payne (Ulster)
12. Gordon D'Arcy (Lansdowne/Leinster)
11. Luke Fitzgerald (Blackrock/Leinster)
10. Ian Madigan (Blackrock/Leinster)
09. Isaac Boss (Terenure/Leinster)

08. Sean O'Brien (UCD/Leinster) capt
07. Chris Henry (Malone/Ulster)
06. Jack Conan (Old Belvedere/Leinster)*
05. Dan Tuohy (Ballymena/Ulster)
04. Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster)
03. Mike Ross (Clontarf/Leinster)
02. Sean Cronin (St Mary's College/Leinster)
01. Dave Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster)

16. Richardt Strauss (Old Wesley/Leinster)
17. Michael Bent (Dublin University/Leinster)
18. Nathan White (Connacht)*
19. Paul O'Connell (Young Munster/Munster)
20. Jordi Murphy (Lansdowne/Leinster)
21. Eoin Reddan (Old Crescent/Leinster)
22. Paddy Jackson (Dungannon/Ulster)
23. Dave Kearney (Lansdowne/Leinster)

SCOTLAND
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15 Ruaridh Jackson  (Wasps)
14 Sean Lamont  (Glasgow  Warriors)  
13 Richie Vernon  (Glasgow  Warriors)  
12 Peter Horne  (Glasgow  Warriors)  
11 Tim Visser  (Harlequins)
10 Greig Tonks  (Edinburgh  Rugby)
09 Henry Pyrgos  CAPTAIN  (Glasgow  Warriors)

01 Ryan Grant  (Glasgow  Warriors)  
02 Fraser Brown  (Glasgow  Warriors)  
03 Jon Welsh  (Newcastle  Falcons)
04 Jim Hamilton  (Saracens)  
05 Grant Gilchrist  (Edinburgh  Rugby)
06 Blair Cowan  (London  Irish)
07 Hugh Blake  (Glasgow  Warriors)
08 David Denton  (Edinburgh  Rugby)  

16 Ross Ford  (Edinburgh  Rugby)
17 Gordon Reid  (Glasgow  Warriors)
18 Mike Cusack  (Glasgow  Warriors)
19 Rob Harley  (Glasgow  Warriors)
20 John Barclay  (Scarlets)  
21 Sam Hidalgo-­Clyne  (Edinburgh  Rugby)
22 Duncan Weir  (Glasgow  Warriors)  
23 Matt  Scott  (Edinburgh  Rugby)


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Post by sensisball Sat 15 Aug 2015, 4:13 pm

im also looking forward to it, but will be incredibly suprised if we win and happy if we lose by less than 10.
lots of interesting issues in the forwards: can Cowan play 6, can Denton survive without a head knock, can Gilchrist play for at least 15 minutes before his hands are on his hips at a break in play, will Blake look completely out of his depth or look at home at this level, will Hamilton stay out of the bin, will Barclay still look like a quality international 7  or is he now an 8, can Harley really cover 4 at this level? Also lots of issues for the backs but cant be bothered listing them!

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Post by jimbopip Sat 15 Aug 2015, 4:15 pm

Laugh Laugh Oh ye of little faith Mr Scones.

Just wait till Hagrid picks up from a ruck in our 22 and sprints under their posts (yes Hagrid and sprints in the same sentence).
Rhuaridh the beard will give an assured and calm exhibition of full back play and Dozer Denton will have the Irish back row chorusing "No Mas" and asking to be subbed before the half hour mark.
Oh yes and Sharon Stone will be on the phone soon telling me how her latest photo shoot was just for me and can she come round later.

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Post by Margin_Walker Sat 15 Aug 2015, 4:57 pm

sensisball wrote:im also looking forward to it, but will be incredibly suprised if we win and happy if we lose by less than 10.
lots of interesting issues in the forwards: can Cowan play 6, can Denton survive without a head knock, can Gilchrist play for at least 15 minutes before his hands are on his hips at a break in play, will Blake look completely out of his depth or look at home at this level, will Hamilton stay out of the bin, will Barclay still look like a quality international 7  or is he now an 8, can Harley really cover 4 at this level? Also lots of issues for the backs but cant be bothered listing them!

Plays there most weeks for London Irish and does okay.

Hopefully a good game to watch for a neutral.

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Post by Majestic83 Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:03 pm

Margin_Walker wrote:
sensisball wrote:im also looking forward to it, but will be incredibly suprised if we win and happy if we lose by less than 10.
lots of interesting issues in the forwards: can Cowan play 6, can Denton survive without a head knock, can Gilchrist play for at least 15 minutes before his hands are on his hips at a break in play, will Blake look completely out of his depth or look at home at this level, will Hamilton stay out of the bin, will Barclay still look like a quality international 7  or is he now an 8, can Harley really cover 4 at this level? Also lots of issues for the backs but cant be bothered listing them!

Plays there most weeks for London Irish and does okay.

Hopefully a good game to watch for a neutral.

Normally openside for London Irish.

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Post by Majestic83 Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:06 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:That is the worst idea I've read in a long time - what the hell??

The reason Colin Deans made this statement was that he thought Denton was a poor and negative 8 who cannot/will not offload and constantly goes to ground in good attacking positions and therefore would be better at 1/3.   He (Denton) i playing for a place today along with a few others- notably Hamilton and Gilchrist at 4/5.  Battle to see who is least crap - my money would be on Hamilton.

Whether that is that truth or not, making a 6ft 5 number 8 a tighthead prop certainly won't fix it!

Denton at prop is pretty laughable, his body size is all wrong to play prop.
If he is going to switch positions it should be to 2nd row where he would probably be pretty useful.

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Post by asoreleftshoulder Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:06 pm

Strong first scrum on Kilcoynes side.

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Post by highland_scot Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:10 pm

Fraser Brown seems to have learnt his hooking from Ross Ford!

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Post by highland_scot Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:11 pm

And wtf was that from the lineout? Stick the ball on Hamilton's back...

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:13 pm

Catching the ball seems to be optional today...

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Post by Margin_Walker Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:14 pm

Majestic83 wrote:
Margin_Walker wrote:
sensisball wrote:im also looking forward to it, but will be incredibly suprised if we win and happy if we lose by less than 10.
lots of interesting issues in the forwards: can Cowan play 6, can Denton survive without a head knock, can Gilchrist play for at least 15 minutes before his hands are on his hips at a break in play, will Blake look completely out of his depth or look at home at this level, will Hamilton stay out of the bin, will Barclay still look like a quality international 7  or is he now an 8, can Harley really cover 4 at this level? Also lots of issues for the backs but cant be bothered listing them!

Plays there most weeks for London Irish and does okay.

Hopefully a good game to watch for a neutral.

Normally openside for London Irish.

Usually plays 6 whenever Trevinanus is fit. Started last season at 6 and switched to 7 after Treviranus was unavailable with injury.

You're right though, played more 7 than 6 in fairness.

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:18 pm

Ireland are joining the ruck from everywhere

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:20 pm

Except the back foot

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Post by sensisball Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:28 pm

Hurrah 24.45 on the clock and Gilchrist actually forces a knock on from Conan, making amends for missing Zebo ( at kick off) and Fitzgerald ( at the restart after the Henry try)

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:29 pm

Going to be interesting to see the difference when Cusack comes one. Just now Ireland are destroying us

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Post by sensisball Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:30 pm

oh dear, Irish scrum just mashed us.

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Post by sensisball Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:33 pm

brilliant try !!!! Denton offloaded the ball !!!!!

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:34 pm

Denton is playing well, making yards and even offloading out the tackle. Good try.

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:37 pm

What a difference with Denton

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:40 pm

Just kick for the corner

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Post by profitius Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:49 pm

Well, a few Irish playign themselves off the plane. D'Arcy as expected and Boss. Cronin having a stinker. Toner looks miles off the pace.

Only for SOB it would be a lot worse.
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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:49 pm

Considering the doubts we all had about this Scotland team selection they've actually picked themselves up pretty well after a very nervy start. Some of the carries have been impressive. Lineout not so much, need to see improvement there in the second half.
Interesting to see how long they can stay in touch with Ireland for. Will the floodgates open in this second half? Or has Vern instilled a bit more grit into this group?

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Post by jimbopip Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:50 pm

Pass marks for; Denton, this is what he is capable of
Blake, has pace is getting to the breakdowns
Jackson, hitting the line, attacking space
Richie V, being Richie V
Henners, doing what he does making the right choices

Must do better; Front Five.

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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:51 pm

profitius wrote:Well, a few Irish playign themselves off the plane. D'Arcy as expected and Boss. Cronin having a stinker. Toner looks miles off the pace.

Only for SOB it would be a lot worse.

D'Arcy and Boss have been really poor. D'Arcy has been absolutely anonymous. Madigan is also poor, with scrum and lineout dominance we need to be in the right areas of the pitch but with Madigan and D'Arcy at 10 and 12 they aren't putting us in the right positions.

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Post by Prothero Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:51 pm

Playing well first half, wait to see what happens with the subs

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Post by RDW Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:57 pm

How is Tonks doing?

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Post by jimbopip Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:58 pm

Pretty anonymous. RDW.

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Post by Majestic83 Sat 15 Aug 2015, 5:58 pm

Scottish back row getting into the game and gelling. Impressed with work rate from Blake, looking like he could be a very good player. Denton carrying well and Cowan getting about as well. Front five need to impose themselves more. Backs looking ok, closing down the Irish attack well. A bit more possesion start of this second half to see what Tonks, Horne and vernon can create.

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Post by RDW Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:04 pm

Sounds like we're getting smashed in the set piece - very difficult the the Scottish backs to do much if that's the case

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Post by Chunky Norwich Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:05 pm

Just how bad were Wales last week?

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I'm on an apple for crying out loud!!!!
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Post by R!skysports Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:08 pm

Scrum looking pants again and losing props like mad

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:09 pm

Grant off on a stretcher and Welsh off for concussion test. Cusack on for his debut

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Post by Golden Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:10 pm

Is Payne even playing?

I'd like to see jackson come in and push Madigan out one. Might give us some more direction.

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Post by R!skysports Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:11 pm

Oh if Denton could pass....

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Post by R!skysports Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:11 pm

Zeno deliberately mtripped visser. Should be off

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Post by RDW Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:12 pm

tigertattie wrote:Why do all the free sites require bloody flash player????

I'm on an apple for crying out loud!!!!

Shouldn't have to - need to install ad block!

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Post by Chunky Norwich Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:15 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Why do all the free sites require bloody flash player????

I'm on an apple for crying out loud!!!!

Shouldn't have to - need to install ad block!

Or stop stealing and pay for it.

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Post by highland_scot Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:17 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Why do all the free sites require bloody flash player????

I'm on an apple for crying out loud!!!!

Shouldn't have to - need to install ad block!

Site I use refuses to work unless you disable adblock...

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Post by RDW Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:18 pm

Chunky Norwich wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Why do all the free sites require bloody flash player????

I'm on an apple for crying out loud!!!!

Shouldn't have to - need to install ad block!

Or stop stealing and pay for it.

It is not illegal to watch an online stream, and it is only a civil offence to broadcast an online stream! thumbsup

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Post by Chunky Norwich Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:20 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
Chunky Norwich wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Why do all the free sites require bloody flash player????

I'm on an apple for crying out loud!!!!

Shouldn't have to - need to install ad block!

Or stop stealing and pay for it.

It is not illegal to watch an online stream, and it is only a civil offence to broadcast an online stream! thumbsup

High court ruling last week changed any recording of copyright in the uk, which means it is illegal. iTunes is actually illegal under uk law as it features a copy function.

Anyway, I'm not judging.

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:21 pm

Time for half the Scottish posters on here to change their underwear, John Barclay just came on

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Post by Chunky Norwich Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:23 pm

TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:Time for half the Scottish posters on here to change their underwear, John Barclay just came on

What do you mean? Is he rubbish then?

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Post by R!skysports Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:26 pm

Good try by zebo. Although should not be on the pitch Very Happy Very Happy

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Post by Chunky Norwich Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:29 pm

Ireland all over the place defensively

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:29 pm

Chunky Norwich wrote:
TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:Time for half the Scottish posters on here to change their underwear, John Barclay just came on

What do you mean? Is he rubbish then?

No he's been hailed as the saviour of Scottish rugby for the last few years that he's spent in international exile

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Post by R!skysports Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:30 pm

Lamont pop pass. Well I never

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Post by R!skysports Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:30 pm

Next I will see mcmisser tackle lol

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Post by jimbopip Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:31 pm

Boys, boys...

What is the score? My illegal site has stopped working and I can't get it going. Mrs Pip recognises this sad state of affairs only too well.

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Post by Chunky Norwich Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:31 pm

TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:
Chunky Norwich wrote:
TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:Time for half the Scottish posters on here to change their underwear, John Barclay just came on

What do you mean? Is he rubbish then?

No he's been hailed as the saviour of Scottish rugby for the last few years that he's spent in international exile

I must have missed that. He's just a decent option for Scotland who should have been in the squad in the last few years.

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Post by Chunky Norwich Sat 15 Aug 2015, 6:33 pm

Madigan has serious skillz

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