Joshua, how far will he go?

Ok guys just for a bit of fun. Were do you all see Joshua in a few years? Will he be an undisputed champion? Do you think he might just win a portion of the title? Or will he fall along the way?

I think he will be the undisputed champion within 2 years. If he can hold a shot, (rumor has it he can) then I see no reason why he won't blow away the rest of the up and comers. I think he will be too much for Parker,Wilder etc.

Anyway, how do you see this young chaps career panning out?

All said Price was the real deal if his whiskers held up. Not sure there's such a thing as a pillow punching HW and as such once they get tagged there's a good chance they won't shrug it off if it was like being hit by Paulie.

Ifs buts maybes, but if he has a set of whiskers on him then he could reign for years - rate him that much. But again, he could quite easily do a Price.

My Brother sais he could go the same way as Price, hope not.

He is holding a hell of a lot of muscle. Wonder how he would hold up in a 12 round fight?

Think he'll be a champion for a long time..

Hope so, his over whelming muscle mass concerns me slightly.

There are still too many questions marks with Joshua to make a good prediction. Still needs to go through a chin test, a test of his technical ability, a test of his fitness and a blood test. I am a big AJ fan and I really hope he is clean but that physique just makes me suspicious.

I have my opinion on AJ physique but won't say it here.

If he takes a shot what is to stop him.............Will he need to take a shot for years ??

It's the year 2015.............We have a bunch of slobs and 39 year old Wlad..

Even some of the 'prospects' dont look too have much look at Joseph Parker

I'd pick Bruno to rule for years............

Look at the way Wilder fought against that chump in his first defence....

Awful......and he's the second best heavy around apparently..

Heavy weights are dire. Even if AJ has stamina issues with that mass, he is unlikely to go past 7 or 8 rounds with these guys.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I'd pick Bruno to rule for years............

Look at the way Wilder fought against that chump in his first defence....

Awful......and he's the second best heavy around apparently..

Provetkin will bash Wilder up

Could you imagine Page/Tubbs/Witherspoon/Weaver/Thomas vs The round bellied slob plodder Povetkin....

Enough to make you want to cry....

For once agreeing with you Truss that Wilder is total garbage. Give Joshua a few more fights, potentially one or two in America and then drag Wilder kicking and screaming in to the ring. That is assuming Wilder doesn't get walloped beforehand, which there is every chance of.

Haymon will keepWilder away from AJ for as long as he can

Who is Joshua going to fight to prepare him for Wilder or Klit ??? and why does he need two fights in America against chumps when he can help sell PPV cards over here for Hearn...

Because he hasn't done anything to earn a title shot and could do with a bit of exposure in the US

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Who is Joshua going to fight to prepare him for Wilder or Klit ??? and why does he need two fights in America against chumps when he can help sell PPV cards over here for Hearn...

Because he can sell PPV cards over here for Hearn whilst fighting in America on PPV there as well you dumbass. PPV in two destinations in a big fight or fight just in the UK on PPV where the event won't garner the same amount of revenue.

And my apologies, I wasn't aware a guy had to fight "lookalikes" in terms of styles to qualify him as ready for a particular style. I was saying he's more than ready for Wilder now, Wlad obviously not so much as he needs a test first. Wilder he simply blasts out of there.

(Again, that's under the assumption he's not a chinless wonder like Price).

Joshua looks the best heavyweight prospect since a young Wladimir Klitschko. If he can hold a shot he could be the next dominant heavyweight.

Michael Grant was being heralded as the next great heavyweight once before Lewis wrecked him - so there's always a note of caution (especially when a prospect isn't being hit back).

I like his next two fights - the other guys will be coming to win.

When Joshua gets tagged he will fall. To much hype around him he has to be 50% better then any opponent now as he is already a scalp.

Only Tyson went all the way with that kind of pressure on his shoulders and he was younger then Joshua by 5 years. Thats because Tyson was a special special fighter only ever defeated by himself. Joshua may look the part and appear as a beast out of Lord of the rings but he is from Watford and people should remember that NO hard men ever came out of Watford..........................................................EVER!

Tyson was running around the Bronx in the late 70's early 80's at 14 years of age.

Hard to say as he hasn't fought anyone yet - didn't think much of him in the Olympics possibly one of the luckiest gold medallists around - got an absolute gift against the cuban early doors after getting his ears boxed off.

Cheers, Rodders

That was with Olympic testing though, he's knocked everyone out since.

Kidding of course.

Scottrf wrote:That was with Olympic testing though, he's knocked everyone out since.

Kidding of course.

How dare you ! A man who is like Mother Teresa and Mary Poppins - wouldn't dream of doing anything untoward.

Cheers, Rodders

Coxy001 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Who is Joshua going to fight to prepare him for Wilder or Klit ??? and why does he need two fights in America against chumps when he can help sell PPV cards over here for Hearn...

Because he can sell PPV cards over here for Hearn whilst fighting in America on PPV there as well you dumbass. PPV in two destinations in a big fight or fight just in the UK on PPV where the event won't garner the same amount of revenue.

And my apologies, I wasn't aware a guy had to fight "lookalikes" in terms of styles to qualify him as ready for a particular style. I was saying he's more than ready for Wilder now, Wlad obviously not so much as he needs a test first. Wilder he simply blasts out of there.

(Again, that's under the assumption he's not a chinless wonder like Price).

He's not going to fight much more before he takes the plunge...

He can try America later...........

Rodney wrote:Hard to say as he hasn't fought anyone yet - didn't think much of him in the Olympics possibly one of the luckiest gold medallists around - got an absolute gift against the cuban early doors after getting his ears boxed off.

Cheers, Rodders

Final was a decent scrap though for an amateur fight though.

Agree he hasn't fought anyone, blasting Johnson out early did sound a couple of bells though. Be interesting to see what he does to Cornish who will (hopefully) come to fight.

Looking forwards to seeing how he progresses to be honest. Looking back he's a far better version of Price - more mobile, more power, better timing, quicker etc. Hopes and dreams will be dashed if he ends up getting shocked sooner rather than later though.

Also needs someone who'll take him past a few effing rounds and then see whether we've got another Haye and thus can't fight for more than 4 rounds without blowing hard.

Unfortunately need George Chuvalo to take him rounds. He can knock people out through walls.

Scottrf wrote:Unfortunately need George Chuvalo to take him rounds. He can knock people out through walls.

It's a hong kong pooey load of crap at Heavy for sure...

My guess is Hearn will let Wlad get older ....and look for Wilder in a stadium next spring/summer...Unless Fury wins...

Beat the crap out of a Whyte, Leapai and another stiff first...

I'd like to know where the "rumour" came from that he can take a punch?

From what I seen Dillian Whyte had him in all sorts of bother when he decked him (Twice).

So Adam T, where is the source of this "rumour"???

Just word of mouth from other fighters. Can't mind who was saying that.

shenglong2015 wrote:I'd like to know where the "rumour" came from that he can take a punch?

From what I seen Dillian Whyte had him in all sorts of bother when he decked him (Twice).

So Adam T, where is the source of this "rumour"???

Vitali once got knocked out in a kickboxing match, y'know?

pele reid

Coxy001 wrote:

shenglong2015 wrote:I'd like to know where the "rumour" came from that he can take a punch?

From what I seen Dillian Whyte had him in all sorts of bother when he decked him (Twice).

So Adam T, where is the source of this "rumour"???

Vitali once got knocked out in a kickboxing match, y'know?

And what? Whats that got to do with Joshua?

Sounds like a solid source.

AJ will be knocked out before the end of 2017.

shenglong2015 wrote:

Coxy001 wrote:

shenglong2015 wrote:I'd like to know where the "rumour" came from that he can take a punch?

From what I seen Dillian Whyte had him in all sorts of bother when he decked him (Twice).

So Adam T, where is the source of this "rumour"???

Vitali once got knocked out in a kickboxing match, y'know?

And what? Whats that got to do with Joshua?

That both were fecking ages ago and count for jackanory sh*t.

Coxy001 wrote:

shenglong2015 wrote:I'd like to know where the "rumour" came from that he can take a punch?

From what I seen Dillian Whyte had him in all sorts of bother when he decked him (Twice).

So Adam T, where is the source of this "rumour"???

Vitali once got knocked out in a kickboxing match, y'know?

And what a KO it was...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUDfVXeRjq0

Coxy001 wrote:

shenglong2015 wrote:

Coxy001 wrote:

shenglong2015 wrote:I'd like to know where the "rumour" came from that he can take a punch?

From what I seen Dillian Whyte had him in all sorts of bother when he decked him (Twice).

So Adam T, where is the source of this "rumour"???

Vitali once got knocked out in a kickboxing match, y'know?

And what? Whats that got to do with Joshua?

That both were fecking ages ago and count for jackanory sh*t.

So I mention a KO that happened to AJ with headgear on, in the same fighting discipline that he has turned Professional in, and potentially fighting the same opponent on down the line.

And you equate this to a Kickboxing match, with none of the aforemention parties in this thread by way of proving a pont.

I read earlier someone said to you "and you never talk s&*t coxy?"

But I didnt think your drivel had got this bad. Stinking.

Again Sheng, note the point about both being bloody ages ago and to somewhat sarcastically discredit yours by saying they were so long ago they hold almost no water with "oh but he got decked by Whyte" due to the lapse in time/Joshua being a complete novice and so forth.

It isn't hard to understand. You were the one who made the point, I sarcastically retorted but the point still stands you made the original point. Point over.

Coxy you're chucking Prescott at Khan on another thread..

Coxy001 wrote:Again Sheng, note the point about both being bloody ages ago and to somewhat sarcastically discredit yours by saying they were so long ago they hold almost no water with "oh but he got decked by Whyte" due to the lapse in time/Joshua being a complete novice and so forth.

It isn't hard to understand. You were the one who made the point, I sarcastically retorted but the point still stands you made the original point. Point over.

Nope dont think its over, just cus you say so.

The article in question states that according to "rumour" AJ has a solid chin, well on the contrary the evidence that I have seen suggests that he does not, the video is on youtube there to be seen he was all over the shop when hit on the chin.

I simply asked where was the evidence to suggest this rumour, for which I have yet to hear nothing but whimsical nonsense about "hear say" and "gym talk" .....bullcrap.

People living in hope more than fact.

Lewis had Bowe all over the place in the amateurs, he turned out to have a superb chin, it means sod all that Whyte knocked him down years ago.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Lewis had Bowe all over the place in the amateurs, he turned out to have a superb chin, it means sod all that Whyte knocked him down years ago.

Missing the point again.

I want to know where the suggested rumour came from tht AJ has a good chin???

I can provide a video evidence of him suffering in the amateurs that shows him being knocked all over the place, you guys on the other hand can only use evidence of what happened with other fighters?? As if this is some sort of proof that he has a chin?

So again, how do you know he has a good chin? What rumour is it, and where did the source of this rumour come from?

AdamT wrote:Ok guys just for a bit of fun. Were do you all see Joshua in a few years? Will he be an undisputed champion? Do you think he might just win a portion of the title? Or will he fall along the way?

I think he will be the undisputed champion within 2 years. If he can hold a shot, (rumor has it he can) then I see no reason why he won't blow away the rest of the up and comers. I think he will be too much for Parker,Wilder etc.

Anyway, how do you see this young chaps career panning out?

See above.

What rumour?

shenglong2015 wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Lewis had Bowe all over the place in the amateurs, he turned out to have a superb chin, it means sod all that Whyte knocked him down years ago.

Missing the point again.

I want to know where the suggested rumour came from tht AJ has a good chin???

I can provide a video evidence of him suffering in the amateurs that shows him being knocked all over the place, you guys on the other hand can only use evidence of what happened with other fighters?? As if this is some sort of proof that he has a chin?

So again, how do you know he has a good chin? What rumour is it, and where did the source of this rumour come from?

You write some exceptional prose. Very well done to you, I consider you one of the most readable posters on this forum

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

shenglong2015 wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Lewis had Bowe all over the place in the amateurs, he turned out to have a superb chin, it means sod all that Whyte knocked him down years ago.

Missing the point again.

I want to know where the suggested rumour came from tht AJ has a good chin???

I can provide a video evidence of him suffering in the amateurs that shows him being knocked all over the place, you guys on the other hand can only use evidence of what happened with other fighters?? As if this is some sort of proof that he has a chin?

So again, how do you know he has a good chin? What rumour is it, and where did the source of this rumour come from?

You write some rubbish

Cracker.

So your "rumour" is stronger than historical video evidence.....only on 606v2....

Love this place.

I think we'll see Joshua develop into a much more cautious fighter as he progresses; one far removed from wrecking ball you are all used to.

Strongy was Az and Shenglong was Strongy.

shenglong2015 wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Lewis had Bowe all over the place in the amateurs, he turned out to have a superb chin, it means sod all that Whyte knocked him down years ago.

Missing the point again.

I want to know where the suggested rumour came from tht AJ has a good chin???

I can provide a video evidence of him suffering in the amateurs that shows him being knocked all over the place, you guys on the other hand can only use evidence of what happened with other fighters?? As if this is some sort of proof that he has a chin?

So again, how do you know he has a good chin? What rumour is it, and where did the source of this rumour come from?

Bowe's chin wasn't superb but his ability to come back from being hurt was. Holyfield hurt him in the first half of their rematch, almost had him out with one shot in the rubber match and Golota had him on Queer Street time and again in both fights (without being able to put him away). Even Hide buzzed him. Rock Newman purposefully kept him away from punchers (Donald, Hide, Mathis, Holyfield etc.).

As for Joshua-Whyte, I'd say AJ was more tired than anything else. He'd barely boxed before and just had a playground-style free-swinging brawl. Whyte came off best on the night but Joshua has made gigantic strides since. I think he holds a shot.

3fingers wrote:Strongy was Az and Shenglong was Strongy.

And Truss is Einhorn? Einhorn is Truss? Einhorn is a lady!!

What a silly debate.

Does AJ being knocked over whilst a total novice prove he has a bad chin? No

Does his winning streak indicate he can hold a shot? No, he hasn't took a decent shot yet.

Truth is nobody knows the answers... Time will tell and I am looking forward to finding out.