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Post by LondonTiger Tue 18 Aug 2015, 10:10

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FRANCE v ENGLAND
22 August 2015
KO: 20:00 BST (21:00 Local)
Stade de France, Paris

Sky Sports

Referee: Jaco Peyper (South Africa)
Assistant Referees: John Lacey (Ireland) & Marius Mitrea (Italy)
Television match official: Simon McDowell (Ireland)

A. Head to Head

100 Played 100
38 Won 55
7 Drawn 7
55 Lost 38
1,244 Points 1,572

B. Recent Form

15 August 2015
Twickenham, London
19-14 to England

21 March 2015
Twickenham, London
55 – 35 to England

1 February 2014
Stade de France, Saint-Denis
26 – 24 to France

23 February 2013
Twickenham, London
23 – 13 to England

11 March 2012
Stade de France, Saint-Denis
22 – 24 to England


C. Teams

ENGLAND
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15. Mike Brown (Harlequins, 37 caps)
14. Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 8 caps)
13. Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby, 11 caps)
12. Luther Burrell (Northampton Saints, 12 caps)
11. Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby, 14 caps)
10. George Ford (Bath Rugby, 11 caps)
9. Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 47 caps)

1. Joe Marler (Harlequins, 31 caps)
2. Tom Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 22 caps)
3. Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 50 caps)
4. Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 22 caps)
5. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 38 caps)
6. James Haskell (Wasps, 59 caps)
7. Chris Robshaw (captain, Harlequins, 37 caps)
8. Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 13 caps)

Replacements

16. Jamie George (Saracens, uncapped)
17. Mako Vunipola (Saracens,21 caps)
18. David Wilson (Bath Rugby, 42 caps)
19. Dave Attwood (Bath Rugby, 21 caps)
20. Nick Easter (Harlequins, 51 caps)
21. Danny Care (Harlequins, 51 caps)
22. Danny Cipriani (Sale Sharks, 13 caps)
23. Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester Rugby, 21 caps)

FRANCE
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Spedding; Huget, Bastareaud, Fofana, Nakaitaci; Michalak, Tillous-Borde; Arous, Guirado, Slimani, Pape, Maestri, Chouly, Le Roux, Picamoles.

Replacements: Kayser, Debaty, Atonio, Flanquart, Nyanga, Kockott, Tales, Fickou.


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Post by HongKongCherry Sat 22 Aug 2015, 20:52

That's the poorest 40 minutes from England for many a year. Vunipola, Ford and Joseph have been atrocious. Marler, Lawes and Robshaw have been anonymous. The move from the scrum with the 3 behind the pack was not even school boy standard. How on Earth we're only 9 points down is an amazement. The gruelling fitness regime in Denver has shown no impact, in fact we looked knackered. Perhaps time spent on technique would have been far better. In short absolutely woeful.
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Post by TightHEAD Sat 22 Aug 2015, 20:53

nathan wrote:looking at the positive, at least this will give england the experience of being completely outplayed and needing to turn it around in the second half

Spot on, winning the game easily wouldn't tell us much.


Keep calm everyone we'll turn it around in the 2nd half if the forwards start playing.
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Post by nathan Sat 22 Aug 2015, 20:55

i think we also need to remember is that this is the first game in how many weeks for most of the players so they are not going to be match fit.

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Post by flankertye Sat 22 Aug 2015, 20:59

This has been the most painful England performance since THAT match against Argentina!

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Post by HongKongCherry Sat 22 Aug 2015, 20:59

nathan wrote:i think we also need to remember is that this is the first game in how many weeks for most of the players so they are not going to be match fit.

That would be valid if we were playing a SH side in the midst of their season. France are in the same situation as us yet look fitter and far more coherent.
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Post by nathan Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:01

HongKongCherry wrote:
nathan wrote:i think we also need to remember is that this is the first game in how many weeks for most of the players so they are not going to be match fit.

That would be valid if we were playing a SH side in the midst of their season. France are in the same situation as us yet look fitter and far more coherent.

we have players coming back from injury dont we?

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:05

The French are playing at home and know they need a performance
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Post by maestegmafia Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:06

What a try. Great running line by houget

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Post by nathan Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:06

lovely try

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Post by BamBam Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:07

Jheez that was electric

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Post by BamBam Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:08

Get George on asap

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Post by nathan Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:09

Frak sake Barnes, a lineout isn't just down to the hooker

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Post by BamBam Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:09

Glad he listens

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Post by No9 Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:09

Oops.... Did Lancaster take the squad away training or on a  jolly...


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Post by yappysnap Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:10

I don't think we'll win this...

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Post by nathan Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:10

yappysnap wrote:I don't think we'll win this...

nope!

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Post by Barney McGrew did it Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:10

Is there a hooker in the house? Until we find one we'll win nowt.
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Post by Barney McGrew did it Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:11

And a scrummaging prop might be nice
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Post by nathan Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:11

Barney McGrew did it wrote:Is there a hooker in the house? Until we find one we'll win nowt.

perhaps when the hooker doesn have to lead the tackle count....

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Post by No9 Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:12

Well we released Hibbard... He's back at Glaws... any time for him to claim residency Whistle

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Post by nathan Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:14

Frak off ref, he was clearly off his feet

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Post by nathan Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:15

hands clearly on the floor which we got penalised in the first half for

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Post by Barney McGrew did it Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:15

A hooker who thinks he's a 6. Lawes who thinks he's a winger. Is this more of Stewie's RL mentality?
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Post by sad_gimp Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:15

Dreadful performance from the forwards. Only one with any credit is Haskell.

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Post by No9 Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:15

Actually, all joking aside, I'm not happy about this. Normally I'd be jumping about seeing England get a thumping. But I would much rather see England thump everyone in the warm-ups and come to the RWC complacent. As it is now, Lancaster will work on them and most probably turn this around in the RWC. If not, its going to be Wales and Aus go through.


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Post by nathan Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:17

mid_gen wrote:Dreadful performance from the forwards. Only one with any credit is Haskell.

you must of been watching another game, they have all been crap including haskell

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Post by yappysnap Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:17

France have got very lucky with knock ons getting called knocked back this game

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Post by BamBam Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:18

I'd agree that Haskell was at least competent, which is more than I can say for the rest

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:20

yappysnap wrote:France have got very lucky with knock ons getting called knocked back this game

I would say it's more to do with the pack getting beaten in every facet and the backs looking clueless. The England back row have been dreadful. The halfbacks too.

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Post by SimonofSurrey Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:20

Nice try but dreadful defence. My worst fears are being confirmed: our alleged 'A' Team, ring rusty and given a very difficult away game to come back together, are getting trampled by limited but well motivated opposition.

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Post by nathan Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:21

how the hell can teams scrummage on this Poopie pitch

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Post by sad_gimp Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:21

He's the only one to compete physically...although we are improving, Lawes is starting to put himself out a bit more.

Lineout is pathetic.

The pitch is a disgrace as well mind.

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Post by Biltong Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:22

They should go to uncontested scrums
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Post by BamBam Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:22

Going to make sure my diary is clear for when the Welsh are getting tanked by Ireland next week, don't want to miss out on the opportunity of adding my helpful analysis

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Post by Barney McGrew did it Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:22

And I can see the pitch getting a YC soon.
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Post by nathan Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:23

mid_gen wrote:He's the only one to compete physically...although we are improving, Lawes is starting to put himself out a bit more.

Lineout is pathetic.

The pitch is a disgrace as well mind.

T. Youngs was way ahead in the tackle count

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:23

Cipriani is warming up

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Post by milkyboy Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:24

Phew. Electric storm takes out satellite signal and spares me from watching any more of this embarrassment. Shambolic all over the park.

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Post by nathan Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:24

i would laugh if 36 came on and scored a boat load of tries

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Post by nathan Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:25

they are not going to play well when are forwards are cack

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Post by Barney McGrew did it Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:25

And here comes 12T - will the mediocrity never end
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Post by whocares Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:26

Heard a gardener tried to commit suicide somewhere around st denis

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Post by nathan Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:27

should of been a turnover

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Post by nathan Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:28

we're constantly ball watching

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Post by sad_gimp Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:28

Tackle count is irrelevant when you're getting smashed backwards and you're tackling behind the gainline.

Feel for the backs, they've been served a giant poop sandwich.

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Post by nathan Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:28

i really hope this is just lancaster asking the players to play cack so to not give anything away

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Post by yappysnap Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:28

whocares wrote:Heard a gardener tried to commit suicide somewhere around st denis


Laugh

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Post by yappysnap Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:29

You get the sense fatty Barnes is loving this!!

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Post by No9 Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:29

BamBam wrote:Going to make sure my diary is clear for when the Welsh are getting tanked by Ireland next week, don't want to miss out on the opportunity of adding my helpful analysis

All assistance welcomed kiss

I'm taking interest in our opposition.. ... We could meet France in the final Whistle

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Post by nathan Sat 22 Aug 2015, 21:30

mid_gen wrote:Tackle count is irrelevant when you're getting smashed backwards and you're tackling behind the gainline.

Feel for the backs, they've been served a giant poop sandwich.

So you would prefer to have a forward that made 1 tackle against a forward that made 10?

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