Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

by PhilBB Fri 21 Aug 2015, 9:55 pm

First topic message reminder :

GavinDragon wrote:I don't need to address anything, I am one fan with an opinion the same as you and any other fan.

Sure, but here I am trying to understand your opinion yet, sadly, you won't address a key element of it.

Previously you wrote: "Only sad, narrow minded parochial people stuck in the amateur era mindset would see gwent as something in direct competition to newport." so I wrote a detailed, honest and clear answer as to why that insult is misplaced.

It's misplaced because one club is carrying all of the risk but with only 50% ownership.

Do you think it fair that one club carries all of the financial risk, without total ownership, for a "Gwent" team? Sure, you don't need to address the question but, in all fairness, it will speak volumes if you don't address it.

by Cardiff Dave Thu 28 Jan 2016, 7:35 pm

CHRIS KIRWAN: Investment the only solution in Dragons’ search for consistency

http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/sport/14236343.CHRIS_KIRWAN__Investment_the_only_solution_in_Dragons____search_for_consistency/

by mikey_dragon Thu 28 Jan 2016, 10:14 pm

Stating the obvious really, but it won't stop LD wading in and saying it's untrue.

by Cardiff Dave Sat 30 Jan 2016, 10:21 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Stating the obvious really, but it won't stop LD wading in and saying it's untrue.

All's well now with the defeat of the not so mighty Leinster. Hope Lyn knows how the Drags won that game. We both could catch the Os and the Turks during the 6Ns at this rate.

by GavinDragon Sun 31 Jan 2016, 9:03 pm

Davey tweeting that we have signed Sam Hobbs. More Blues' cast offs for us.

by mikey_dragon Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:28 pm

He is a greatly improved player and scrummager this season though Gav, a definite upgrade on Phil Price. I hope this doesn't mean Stankovich is off though, otherwise I'd want us to go for another LH as well as Hobbs.

by dragon4life Sun 31 Jan 2016, 11:29 pm

I personally would like us too see us play Garret at LH, strong scrummager as shown with u20 and we need to see if he can make step up. He cant be any worse than Price at scrummaging. Plus if he does come through it could save another signing and spend money else where. He held his own at judgmemt day last year when he came on.

by Luckless Pedestrian Mon 01 Feb 2016, 10:19 am

mikey_dragon wrote:He is a greatly improved player and scrummager this season though Gav, a definite upgrade on Phil Price.

Agreed, especially the last bit. I would like to see Luke Garret given more game time though.

by Cardiff Dave Mon 01 Feb 2016, 7:18 pm

GavinDragon wrote:Davey tweeting that we have signed Sam Hobbs. More Blues' cast offs for us.

Merthyr or Drags, Miles?
Ummm....

"Blues second row Miles Normandale has signed for Merthyr RFC"
http://merthyr.rfc.wales/news/22a24be1-bfbd-42c5-925a-967fbe33a084/blues-second-row-signs-for-ironmen

by **RiscaGame** Mon 01 Feb 2016, 8:57 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:Davey tweeting that we have signed Sam Hobbs. More Blues' cast offs for us.

Merthyr or Drags, Miles?
Ummm....

"Blues second row Miles Normandale has signed for Merthyr RFC"
http://merthyr.rfc.wales/news/22a24be1-bfbd-42c5-925a-967fbe33a084/blues-second-row-signs-for-ironmen

What does that have to do with the Dragons?

by Cardiff Dave Mon 01 Feb 2016, 9:04 pm

RiscaGame wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:Davey tweeting that we have signed Sam Hobbs. More Blues' cast offs for us.

Merthyr or Drags, Miles?
Ummm....

"Blues second row Miles Normandale has signed for Merthyr RFC"
http://merthyr.rfc.wales/news/22a24be1-bfbd-42c5-925a-967fbe33a084/blues-second-row-signs-for-ironmen

What does that have to do with the Dragons?

I assumed Miles was given the choice and chose Merthyr, maybe?

by mikey_dragon Mon 01 Feb 2016, 9:56 pm

Why did we sign a back-row from Exeter on loan for ummmm, 3 weeks?

by Cardiff Dave Mon 01 Feb 2016, 10:05 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Why did we sign a back-row from Exeter on loan for ummmm, 3 weeks?

Played in the Tal Selley Cardiff winning try game v Munster btw, some years ago.

by **RiscaGame** Mon 01 Feb 2016, 10:33 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:Davey tweeting that we have signed Sam Hobbs. More Blues' cast offs for us.

Merthyr or Drags, Miles?
Ummm....

"Blues second row Miles Normandale has signed for Merthyr RFC"
http://merthyr.rfc.wales/news/22a24be1-bfbd-42c5-925a-967fbe33a084/blues-second-row-signs-for-ironmen

What does that have to do with the Dragons?

I assumed Miles was given the choice and chose Merthyr, maybe?

I assumed you were being daft like that. At least my assumption was correct. I'm sure it was worth your while anyway.

by Cardiff Dave Mon 01 Feb 2016, 10:54 pm

RiscaGame wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:Davey tweeting that we have signed Sam Hobbs. More Blues' cast offs for us.

Merthyr or Drags, Miles?
Ummm....

"Blues second row Miles Normandale has signed for Merthyr RFC"
http://merthyr.rfc.wales/news/22a24be1-bfbd-42c5-925a-967fbe33a084/blues-second-row-signs-for-ironmen

What does that have to do with the Dragons?

I assumed Miles was given the choice and chose Merthyr, maybe?

I assumed you were being daft like that. At least my assumption was correct. I'm sure it was worth your while anyway.

I admit, I am a bit daft. I say the C word and the N word and everything. For sure i'll never get invited to join the BBC ChumV lot.

by Guest Tue 02 Feb 2016, 9:26 am

Cardiff Dave wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:Davey tweeting that we have signed Sam Hobbs. More Blues' cast offs for us.

Merthyr or Drags, Miles?
Ummm....

"Blues second row Miles Normandale has signed for Merthyr RFC"
http://merthyr.rfc.wales/news/22a24be1-bfbd-42c5-925a-967fbe33a084/blues-second-row-signs-for-ironmen

What does that have to do with the Dragons?

I assumed Miles was given the choice and chose Merthyr, maybe?

I assume he left the Blues because he wasn't good enough to get more game time. Therefore, Merthyr may be more his level. And if they're going to chuck money at him then he might think 'win, win'.

by Guest Tue 02 Feb 2016, 9:29 am

Griff wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:Davey tweeting that we have signed Sam Hobbs. More Blues' cast offs for us.

Merthyr or Drags, Miles?
Ummm....

"Blues second row Miles Normandale has signed for Merthyr RFC"
http://merthyr.rfc.wales/news/22a24be1-bfbd-42c5-925a-967fbe33a084/blues-second-row-signs-for-ironmen

What does that have to do with the Dragons?

I assumed Miles was given the choice and chose Merthyr, maybe?

I assume he left the Blues because he wasn't good enough to get more game time. Therefore, Merthyr may be more his level. And if they're going to chuck money at him then he might think 'win, win'.

Or, the Dragons are pretty well stocked with 2nd choice locks on the fringe of the squad already??? Do we really need another?!

by PhilBB Tue 02 Feb 2016, 4:51 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Why did we sign a back-row from Exeter on loan for ummmm, 3 weeks?

Because of the injury list.

by mikey_dragon Tue 02 Feb 2016, 10:24 pm

PhilBB wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Why did we sign a back-row from Exeter on loan for ummmm, 3 weeks?

Because of the injury list.

There were players available because as far as I know we're without Coombes, Griffiths and Cudd. No.7 is where we're light so Benjamin could have been brought in seeing as he's still on a contract. Waste of money.

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 03 Feb 2016, 10:08 am

Three weeks' wages won't be much money.

by mikey_dragon Wed 03 Feb 2016, 11:48 am

Well money wasn't my only point but never mind.

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 03 Feb 2016, 12:18 pm

We're missing more than three back-row players, too.

by **RiscaGame** Wed 03 Feb 2016, 1:14 pm

It does seem a bit of a waste now Ed Jackson and Nick Crosswell are seemingly fit. Found it a bit funny how the Lyp called the former by his first name and the latter by his surname mind. Guess Ed is in the clique.

But I like the sound of a combative seven, so hopefully he impresses in training (as he's unlikely to play now).

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 03 Feb 2016, 2:01 pm

Hallam Amos is being released to play for the Dragons at ~~Ravenhill~~ Kingspan Stadium on Friday.

Maybe if he plays well he'll take Cuthbert's place on the bench...

by mikey_dragon Wed 03 Feb 2016, 2:06 pm

Williams probably will, I can't see Amos coming in until after that. I've no idea why he would want Cuthbert on the bench.

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 03 Feb 2016, 2:06 pm

Some players are just in.

by LordDowlais Wed 03 Feb 2016, 2:09 pm

Picking Cuthbert instead of Amos in the Wales team is a real Doh

for Gatland. He should also have a few of these for choosing Cuthbert:-

picard

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 03 Feb 2016, 2:11 pm

You do talk sense sometimes then, Dowlais Wink

by LordDowlais Wed 03 Feb 2016, 2:15 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:You do talk sense ~~sometimes~~ always then, Dowlais

There you go, just corrected it for you. laughing

by **RiscaGame** Wed 03 Feb 2016, 3:03 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:Hallam Amos is being released to play for the Dragons at ~~Ravenhill~~ Kingspan Stadium on Friday.

Maybe if he plays well he'll take Cuthbert's place on the bench...

Oh lovely. However, I think it'll take something to shift Cuthbert. It's going to be a tricky choice for Gatland for the Scotland game, as to which favourite he drops for Williams. Priestland, Anscombe or Cuthbert. Or maybe Tom James will go from 11 to tackle bag holder

by **RiscaGame** Wed 03 Feb 2016, 3:04 pm

I did have a bit of a cold sweat when I read Nick Scott was going to start this weekend.

by PhilBB Wed 03 Feb 2016, 3:28 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Why did we sign a back-row from Exeter on loan for ummmm, 3 weeks?

Because of the injury list.

There were players available because as far as I know we're without Coombes, Griffiths and Cudd. No.7 is where we're light so Benjamin could have been brought in seeing as he's still on a contract. Waste of money.

They signed White as they had only 3 fit back row players.

by **RiscaGame** Thu 04 Feb 2016, 12:35 pm

Ulster: L Ludik, C Gilroy, D Cave, S Olding, J Stockdale, I Humphreys, R Pienaar, C Black, R Herring (captain), R Lutton, A O’Connor, P Browne, R Diack, S Reidy, R Wilson. Replacements: J Andrew, K McCall, B Ross, C Ross, N Williams, P Marshall, P Jackson, R Scholes.

Dragons: C Meyer, A Hewitt, A Hughes, A Warren, H Amos, A O’Brien, C Davies, P Price, E Dee, B Harris, M Screech, R Landman (captain), B White, N Cudd, E Jackson. Replacements: R Buckley, B Stankovich, S Knight, C Hill, J Benjamin, S Pretorius, GR Jones, N Scott

Have been worried that the tombola was rather redundant. Good to see it get a bit of a spin again.

Tovey injured apparently. Don't know why Sarel is benched, nor why Boris is swapped out. Don't really see why Ben White gets a game over James Benjamin really either. He is only meant to be injury cover.

by GavinDragon Fri 05 Feb 2016, 3:12 pm

Good to see Angus get a start.

by Cardiff Dave Fri 05 Feb 2016, 5:46 pm

Hi-de-hi Gwenters. Is the Ulster game this evening on the red button or online? Being televised live on BBC2 NI btw.

by Luckless Pedestrian Fri 05 Feb 2016, 5:50 pm

If it's on BBC2 Northern Ireland then there's no good reason why they shouldn't offer it on the red button, but it wouldn't surprise me if they don't.

by Cardiff Dave Fri 05 Feb 2016, 6:05 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:If it's on BBC2 Northern Ireland then there's no good reason why they shouldn't offer it on the red button, but it wouldn't surprise me if they don't.

Alternatively, the U20 game is on proper telly and there's even a Gwenter in the starting XV too. Marvelous!

by Steffan Fri 05 Feb 2016, 6:10 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
Luckless Pedestrian wrote:If it's on BBC2 Northern Ireland then there's no good reason why they shouldn't offer it on the red button, but it wouldn't surprise me if they don't.

Alternatively, the U20 game is on proper telly and there's even a Gwenter in the starting XV too. Marvelous!

Wales Under 20 v Ireland:

Rhun Williams (RGC); Elis-Wyn Benham (Cardiff Blues), Harri Millard (Cardiff Blues), Owen Watkin (Ospreys), Keelan Giles (Ospreys); Dan Jones (Scarlets), Declan Smith (Scarlets); Corey Domachowski (Cardiff Blues), Dafydd Hughes (Scarlets), Dillon Lewis (Cardiff Blues), Shane Lewis-Hughes (Cardiff Blues), Adam Beard (Ospreys), Tom Phillips (captain, Scarlets), Shaun Evans (Scarlets), Harrison Keddie (Newport Gwent Dragons)

What a name as well Very Happy

The Dregs have earned all their WRU funding on that alone

by Cardiff Dave Fri 05 Feb 2016, 6:23 pm

What's this I hear about some team out West attempting to entice players away from the far East?

by Cardiff Dave Fri 05 Feb 2016, 6:26 pm

Steffan wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
Luckless Pedestrian wrote:If it's on BBC2 Northern Ireland then there's no good reason why they shouldn't offer it on the red button, but it wouldn't surprise me if they don't.

Alternatively, the U20 game is on proper telly and there's even a Gwenter in the starting XV too. Marvelous!
Wales Under 20 v Ireland:

Rhun Williams (RGC); Elis-Wyn Benham (Cardiff Blues), Harri Millard (Cardiff Blues), Owen Watkin (Ospreys), Keelan Giles (Ospreys); Dan Jones (Scarlets), Declan Smith (Scarlets); Corey Domachowski (Cardiff Blues), Dafydd Hughes (Scarlets), Dillon Lewis (Cardiff Blues), Shane Lewis-Hughes (Cardiff Blues), Adam Beard (Ospreys), Tom Phillips (captain, Scarlets), Shaun Evans (Scarlets), Harrison Keddie (Newport Gwent Dragons)

What a name as well

The Dregs have earned all their WRU funding on that alone

No need for wind ups mun. Show some empathy FFS. Drags fans are human too you know.

by Steffan Fri 05 Feb 2016, 6:27 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:What's this I hear about some team out West attempting to entice players away from the far East?

Merthyr?

by Cardiff Dave Fri 05 Feb 2016, 7:03 pm

Steffan wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:What's this I hear about some team out West attempting to entice players away from the far East?
Merthyr?

Wrong side of the continental divide.

by Cardiff Dave Fri 05 Feb 2016, 7:40 pm

Game on Gwenters!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/rugby-union/35474318

by Cardiff Dave Fri 05 Feb 2016, 7:42 pm

Jiffy's mate reffing.

by Cardiff Dave Fri 05 Feb 2016, 7:43 pm

Ulster 0-3 Gwenters

by Cardiff Dave Fri 05 Feb 2016, 7:53 pm

Try Drags!

by Cardiff Dave Fri 05 Feb 2016, 7:54 pm

Get in.
Ulster nowt-10 Drags.

by Cardiff Dave Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:08 pm

Ulster 7-10 Drags.
Looking like one way traffic now.

by Cardiff Dave Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:15 pm

Drags on the front foot in the 22. Drop goal on the cards.

by PhilBB Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:20 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:Drags on the front foot in the 22. Drop goal on the cards.

You should be watching our kids play the Irish.

by Cardiff Dave Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:20 pm

Got the feeling that Ulster thought they'd won this game before it kicked off. 7-10 HT to the Drags.

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