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Post by Pr4wn Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:24 pm

First topic message reminder :

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Post by Number-25 Sun 20 Sep 2015, 8:53 pm

Oh, and by the way, our defense has been very good in these first two games. Neither Miami nor St Louis are particularly good offensive teams but the defense has been a big improvement from what we've seen the last few years so far.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 20 Sep 2015, 8:54 pm

Number-25 wrote:Oh, and by the way, our defense has been very good in these first two games. Neither Miami nor St Louis are particularly good offensive teams but the defense has been a big improvement from what we've seen the last few years so far.

You got a sneaky good D line - much improved from last year. Back end isn't great, but serviceable. Promising signs at last eh!
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Post by Number-25 Sun 20 Sep 2015, 8:55 pm

I'd like to see us bag another TD here just to rub Jeff Fisher's face in it.

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Post by Number-25 Sun 20 Sep 2015, 8:59 pm

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Number-25 wrote:Oh, and by the way, our defense has been very good in these first two games. Neither Miami nor St Louis are particularly good offensive teams but the defense has been a big improvement from what we've seen the last few years so far.

You got a sneaky good D line - much improved from last year. Back end isn't great, but serviceable. Promising signs at last eh!

Yeah, the hope was that the D-Line could be a strength. Knighton and Paea were upgrades and if Hatcher's healthy they we can be strong up front. On the strength of the first two games, it looks like teams will find it hard to run on us at least.

Pats are looking good by the way.... never any doubt about that though.

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Post by Number-25 Sun 20 Sep 2015, 9:02 pm

Morris and Matt Jones ran for 177 yards combined tonight and Kirk Cousins went 23/27 and no INTs..... where is this tough Rams defense I was reading about this week???

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 20 Sep 2015, 9:09 pm

Number-25 wrote:Morris and Matt Jones ran for 177 yards combined tonight and Kirk Cousins went 23/27 and no INTs..... where is this tough Rams defense I was reading about this week???

Typical St Louis and Jeff Fisher. Essentially the Andy Dalton of teams/coaching. Soon as they're expected to do well they lay an egg
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Post by mikeygnfl Sun 20 Sep 2015, 10:29 pm

The Broncos, Patriots, Panthers, Cardinals, Bengals & Falcons are all on 2-0. The Dolphins, Cowboys & Packers could join them.
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Post by mikeygnfl Sun 20 Sep 2015, 10:56 pm

Johnny Manziel's passer rating was the highest by any Browns QB for eight years.

The Eagles currently have 21 total yards going to half time including a massive -3 rushing yards from DeMarco Murray and Ryan Matthews. Perhaps it is time to bring back Tebow?

Antonio Brown, Odell Beckham Jr and Julio Jones all had over 100 receiving yards. Amari Cooper has arrived in the NFL with nearly 100 yards and a TD in the first half against Baltimore. The Raiders along with the Buccaneers looked much better this week.
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Post by mikeygnfl Sun 20 Sep 2015, 11:25 pm

Ryan Matthews is leading the Eagles rushing today on 0 yards from 1 carry.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 20 Sep 2015, 11:31 pm

Hey look Sam Bradford is still a god awful QB
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 20 Sep 2015, 11:45 pm

Tony Romo broken collarbone they reckon - means Bill belichick gonna get a bye week to prepare for Brandon Weeden. Should be fun
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Post by mikeygnfl Sun 20 Sep 2015, 11:48 pm

Tony Romo is out of the game injured. Not a good opening two games for the Cowboys in term of injuries.

DeMarco Murray has rushed for -15 yards today.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 20 Sep 2015, 11:56 pm

Fractured left clavicle for Romo - out at least 8 weeks. Suddenly the Redskins have a shot at the NFC East....
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Post by Guest Sun 20 Sep 2015, 11:57 pm

Olly wrote:Hey look Sam Bradford is still a god awful QB

The whole offense is, dont think ive seen such a woeful performance, and thats coming from a Raiders fan

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Post by mikeygnfl Mon 21 Sep 2015, 12:30 am

Joe Philbin can't have much longer left as head coach in Miami.

Anyone else looking forward to Manziel and the Browns taking on Weeden's Cowboys in the Super Bowl 50?
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Post by Number-25 Mon 21 Sep 2015, 1:43 am

So, yeah, you know you've had a bad start to the season when the Redskins look like the team with the fewest issues in the division.

Hello, Philly, NY and Dallas....

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Post by Bull Mon 21 Sep 2015, 8:01 am

Is it safe to come out now??

Good grief, the Bears are awful.

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Post by sodhat Mon 21 Sep 2015, 8:54 am

That was the performance offensively that we were hoping for after the draft in Oakland. Thank God they uncorked it and threw deep this week, it even gave us some room to run the ball.

Defense is still a bit crap. Mack and Smith got little pressure, starting to think Mack needs to go back to being a run-killing OLB rushing on obvious pass downs only.

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Post by sodhat Mon 21 Sep 2015, 8:56 am

Number-25 wrote:Morris and Matt Jones ran for 177 yards combined tonight and Kirk Cousins went 23/27 and no INTs..... where is this tough Rams defense I was reading about this week???

I hate Matt Jones and his filthy touch-stealing ways.

I have Morris as my lead back, and wouldn't you know I left 100 yards and a touchdown on the bench with Gio Bernard.

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Post by BamBam Mon 21 Sep 2015, 9:16 am

At least you didn't just drop Matt Jones last week

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Post by sodhat Mon 21 Sep 2015, 9:40 am

I didn't know who Matt Jones was last week

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 21 Sep 2015, 10:53 am

Guess who picked Keenan Allen over Julian Edelman this week ...
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Post by Pr4wn Mon 21 Sep 2015, 10:55 am

Our bust played pretty well.

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Post by GSC Mon 21 Sep 2015, 12:09 pm

Bull wrote:Is it safe to come out now??

Good grief, the Bears are awful.

It could be worse.
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Post by mikeygnfl Mon 21 Sep 2015, 2:20 pm

I wonder if the Eagles regret giving Chip Kelly more control over personnel now?
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Post by Forward Pass Mon 21 Sep 2015, 2:33 pm

mikeygnfl wrote:I wonder if the Eagles regret giving Chip Kelly more control over personnel now?
Yeah they look a mess at the minute
Still won't take much to win the NFC East though
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 21 Sep 2015, 3:33 pm

It's only week 2 folks. This time last year your super bowl champions were a mess....long way to go yet
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Post by sodhat Mon 21 Sep 2015, 3:37 pm

The Eagles rushing stats are hilarious though, 17 rushes for 7 yards. It's like Trent Richardson's career stat line.

Maybe God is smiting them for cutting Tebow?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 21 Sep 2015, 3:53 pm

Tebow genuinely would've moved the offence better than Bradford yesterday tbf
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Post by GSC Mon 21 Sep 2015, 4:33 pm

Id challenge most QBs to move the ball when the Guards and Center are in his face in a split second from a shotgun stance.
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Post by Number-25 Mon 21 Sep 2015, 10:59 pm

GSC wrote:Id challenge most QBs to move the ball when the Guards and Center are in his face in a split second from a shotgun stance.

Ah, so that's where last year's Redskins offensive line has gone??

You want RG3 as well to complete the look?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 22 Sep 2015, 5:02 am

Indy just cannot handle big boy football at all - and Andrew Luck is a turnover machine.

Maybe they'll raise a banner for being a participant in MNF or something
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Post by sodhat Tue 22 Sep 2015, 4:01 pm

RG3 to the Cowboys anyone?

Now that would be a hell of a midseason storyline.

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Post by Lowlandbrit Tue 22 Sep 2015, 4:06 pm

Tantalising prospect of Brandon Weeden vs Luke McCown on SNF in a couple of weeks.

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Sep 2015, 4:48 pm

Cant be any worse than Romo vs Bradford was.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 22 Sep 2015, 5:03 pm

sodhat wrote:RG3 to the Cowboys anyone?

Now that would be a hell of a midseason storyline.

Don't see why Dallas would trade away future picks for the now - this is why you have a backup. Yes Weeden isn't great, but he knows the system and has some chemistry with the players there. These other options don't and are also Poopie
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Post by skins4ever Tue 22 Sep 2015, 8:07 pm

Please Dallas trade for RG3. Even a bucket and mop will be fine. Then he can break his leg or something and sting the Cowboys for that injury clause. Ah, can but dream...

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Post by NYJ Tue 22 Sep 2015, 9:52 pm

Jets dominated the Colts everywhere. I'm so excited about our defense now being able to generate turnovers. It's what we were missing under Rex. Offense surprisingly effective too.
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Post by sodhat Wed 23 Sep 2015, 8:57 am

Olly wrote:
sodhat wrote:RG3 to the Cowboys anyone?

Now that would be a hell of a midseason storyline.

Don't see why Dallas would trade away future picks for the now - this is why you have a backup. Yes Weeden isn't great, but he knows the system and has some chemistry with the players there. These other options don't and are also Poopie

Doesn't matter now anyways, they've traded for Matt 'The Saviour' Cassell.

Weeden won't last long with Cassell behind him, give him a couple of weeks of multi-turnover games and he's backing up the back up.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 23 Sep 2015, 9:18 am

It'll be the most buffalo thing ever for Tyrod Taylor to get injured next week and EJ Manuel will have to play
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Post by sodhat Wed 23 Sep 2015, 4:47 pm

McCown starting over Manziel this weekend.

Rewarding a win with a benching is the Brownsiest Browns move of all the Browns moves.

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Post by GSC Wed 23 Sep 2015, 4:55 pm

I dont get it. Manziel shows signs of life for the first time and you can back to a career nothingman in Josh McCown
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Post by Pr4wn Wed 23 Sep 2015, 4:58 pm

Have to agree. Manziel's chemistry with Benjamin was looking pretty fruitful, too.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 23 Sep 2015, 5:11 pm

The most browns thing you could do really
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Post by Skyforger Wed 23 Sep 2015, 8:27 pm

NYJ wrote:Jets dominated the Colts everywhere. I'm so excited about our defense now being able to generate turnovers. It's what we were missing under Rex. Offense surprisingly effective too.

I thought the D was good too, genuine pressure and the big names made big plays.

But with that many turnovers forced I'm not sure the score line, against a banged up Colts D, reflects a "surprisingly effective" O

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Post by mikeygnfl Wed 23 Sep 2015, 10:10 pm

Josh McCown is 36. He has zero upside and is not going future of the franchise at QB. Manziel has shown enough in the two games this season to deserve a chance as starter. He was unlucky against the Jets of a couple of 3rd downs after nice plays were brought back for penalties and lead the Browns to a win last weekend against the Titans.

If you have Manziel, you might as well see what you've got this season, rather than fumble through with McCown and be back in this situation again next season.
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Post by Lowlandbrit Wed 23 Sep 2015, 11:05 pm

mikeygnfl wrote:If you have Manziel, you might as well see what you've got this season, rather than fumble through with McCown
Speaking of which, Manziel has four fumbles already.

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Post by NYJ Thu 24 Sep 2015, 3:31 pm

Skyforger wrote:
NYJ wrote:Jets dominated the Colts everywhere. I'm so excited about our defense now being able to generate turnovers. It's what we were missing under Rex. Offense surprisingly effective too.

I thought the D was good too, genuine pressure and the big names made big plays.

But with that many turnovers forced I'm not sure the score line, against a banged up Colts D, reflects a "surprisingly effective" O

Effective enough to win the game. When we needed a scoring drive, we got it. Agree that we need to be more clinical though. Starting drives at the 10 yard line must give us 7 points instead of 3.
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Post by Number-25 Thu 24 Sep 2015, 10:59 pm

So, who's all staying up to watch the Redskins/Giants game??

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 24 Sep 2015, 11:12 pm

Only if I'm awoken during the night......
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