Slamming Sam and the Destabalising Effect

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This is not a WUM so please lets have some considered responses here as well as the usual dross.


The inclusion of Sam Burgess divided opinion in many pundits minds with perhaps Carling being among the more vociferous (I have always been a fan of Carling by the way and think that he more than any other person pulled England away from a pompous amateur era to that of a winning mentality) - Now there is no doubting this players ability as an individual although he has yet to prove himself in rugby union and a lot is being asked of him. My question I guess is, has his inclusion and undoubted aura destabilised what has been a pretty consistent ship over the past 3 years. Has it upset the dynamics of the team. He is a natural leader but that can create confusion, particularly in a game where he has not earned the right to be a leader. I've always been a fan of Burrell and of course its about combinations and familiarity in the 10, 12 and 13 axis. I'm just thinking that by opting for 1 potentially precious Jewel Lancaster and Co have discarded a number of Diamonds that have previously shone and perhaps could have shone if given the opportunity. It would have also maintained the equilibrium that appears to be lacking at present.

Oh but you are deluded again. Why should a great player like him have to sit around learning the trade of a 6 when even you keep carping on about how he would be good in a couple of years time. I suspect you think George Ford would make a good hooker in 2 years if he put on a bit of weight. BTW have you seen the Doctor yet?

When did I say he could (only) be good in a couple of years. He'd be a bloody good 6 now. Not sure on Capaldi and feel my tv won't shine as bright without Jenna Coleman.

No 7&1/2 wrote:When did I say he could (only) be good in a couple of years. He'd be a bloody good 6 now. Not sure on Capaldi and feel my tv won't shine as bright without Jenna Coleman.

I like Capaldi when he is angry.

In a way glad Coleman has gone, as I felt like a dirty old man. She was stunningly gorgeous though.

You said he's no good in the line out. Ford, Mike as you call him, said he might be good enough to play 6 for England in a couple of years when he learnt his trade. Bet that went down well. Has George started to learn how to be good hooker yet? You really should make that appointment.

So I never said 2 years thanks. George is a good hooker many calling for him to start.

Jenna Coleman on a thread about Burgess? That is quite a stretch. But I do agree she is a cutie.
She probably has a lot more support across the country (and world?) than Burgess.

I'd appreciate as I'm sure others would if you didn't try to use mental illness in point scoring. Ford is a fly half, if you think he has a chance of being a hooker I think you're sadly mistaken.

No 7&1/2 wrote:I'd appreciate as I'm sure others would if you didn't try to use mental illness in point scoring. Ford is a fly half, if you think he has a chance of being a hooker I think you're sadly mistaken.

I agree and have removed the post.

Englandglory - no need for that.

Fancy seeing you here RDW! A pleasure.

He's been double teamed!

Jeez I was going to post in the biggest idiot competition, but as the Feds are here I think I'll just mosy on by (tips hat)...