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Post by spencerclarke Fri 06 Nov 2015, 12:59 pm

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Afternoon all,

Who's watching this at the weekend? Predictions anyone?

I actually think it's going to be a lot tighter fight than most are suggesting. I'm hoping for a fight of the year candidate.

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Post by hampo17 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:16 pm

The lad deserves one after that, can't see Eddie wanting to take the risk though.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:17 pm

Ricky Burns......is like sex with the wife....Tiresome..

"Oh hello honey"....


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Post by milkyboy Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:18 pm

Luckily for me the dinner party is cancelled. 

Great fight, terrible stoppage. The guy was badly hurt. But he was hit on the back of the head to put him down. For me it shouldn't have been a knockdown and he should have had chance to recover. At the very least he gets a standing count.

At least Eddie was honest about the stoppage... But that may have been a bit of 'I smell a froch groves style rematch'. Wembley anyone?

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Post by wheelchair1991 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:20 pm

Is Ricky Burns in an eliminator by any chance?

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Post by wheelchair1991 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:24 pm

Nick Halling is a fully paid up member of the Burns fan club "he is a modern British great" etc

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Post by AZZJ44 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:27 pm

British referees are a disgrace and that idiot is right up there with Ian John Lewis. I can't believe he stopped it then. No sense without a count. Inept.

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Post by AZZJ44 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:28 pm

British referees are a disgrace and that idiot is right up there with Ian John Lewis. I can't believe he stopped it then. No sense without a count. Inept.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:28 pm

To be honest milky It was a 10-8 round and Cardle wins...

But it did stink..

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:29 pm

wheelchair1991 wrote:Is Ricky Burns in an eliminator by any chance?

Where is left for Ricky to go ??


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Post by hampo17 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:30 pm

Why would Cardle have won if it was a 10-8 round Truss? Dodd was up by 4 on two of the cards.

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Post by milkyboy Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:31 pm

No arguments there truss... The lad deserved to lose a disputed split decision though! Maybe this result sells a few more rematch tickets!

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:32 pm

4 rounds on 1 card, 1 round on the other

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:32 pm

He was up one one card and one point down on another mate after 11..

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Post by milkyboy Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:33 pm

Thought he was up with 2 judges... 1 by 1 round and 1 by 4 rounds Hampo

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:34 pm

He was but cardle would have had a 10-8 with the count that should have been..

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Post by wheelchair1991 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:37 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
wheelchair1991 wrote:Is Ricky Burns in an eliminator by any chance?

Where is left for Ricky to go ??


Up the WBO rankings again apparently

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:37 pm

Why is Sims telling Burns to get inside? He's a 5'10 pure boxer against a 5'5 brawler. Why the hell is he forehead to forehead?!

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Post by hampo17 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:38 pm

milkyboy wrote:Thought he was up with 2 judges... 1 by 1 round and 1 by 4 rounds Hampo
 
Thought I heard by four on 2 and 1 on other, seen a few mention it on social media as well.

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Post by wheelchair1991 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:39 pm

Pound-for-Pound wrote:Why is Sims telling Burns to get inside? He's a 5'10 pure boxer against a 5'5 brawler. Why the hell is he forehead to forehead?!

I was confused by that myself

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:39 pm

Bit scrappy this one..

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Post by rob-glos Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:42 pm

PaulHv2 wrote:
milkyboy wrote:Thought he was up with 2 judges... 1 by 1 round and 1 by 4 rounds Hampo
 
Thought I heard by four on 2 and 1 on other, seen a few mention it on social media as well.


Just rewound and listened to it again.

He was up on 2 cards.
On one he was up by 4 rounds.
On the other he was up by 1.

With a 10-8 in the last Cardle would have won an SD.

This Burns fight is dire.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:44 pm

Maybe watching Mamma Mia for the 50th time wouldn't be so bad !!

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Post by hampo17 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:46 pm

I've gone to the shop, hopefully be finished by the time I get back, time to retire Ricky.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:47 pm

Burns' long range work, that took him to titles in two different weights, hasn't been the same since he left Nelson. He may not have beaten Crawford but I was extremely impressed by his jab in that fight; it made a very, very good fighter in Crawford look unimpressive at times.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:53 pm

For a short fighter King is very poor on the inside....

Problem is he isn't much better on the outside...

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:56 pm

"Unfortunately for King he isn't much of a banger"..

He wouldn't be over here If he was you donut..

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:00 pm

I can't see Burns beating Flanagan based on recent performances.

Just wondering, do you guys reckon Terry Flanagan is better than a peak Ricky Burns? Whenever I watch Flanagan something about his work reminds me of Burns when he was champ.

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Post by milkyboy Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:01 pm

I have the burns fight on the tv but my eye is being drawn to one of my floorboards which is just starting to warp slightly.

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Post by wheelchair1991 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:03 pm

Pound-for-Pound wrote:I can't see Burns beating Flanagan based on recent performances.

Just wondering, do you guys reckon Terry Flanagan is better than a peak Ricky Burns? Whenever I watch Flanagan something about his work reminds me of Burns when he was champ.

I think Flanagan beats Burns easily now, back at Burns peak i still think Terry would have edged it

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:04 pm

Wouldn't be surprised to see Eddie feed a fading Burns to Luke Campbell towards the back end of next year.

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Post by Pedro147 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:05 pm

I think Fielding beats Smith tonight. Something about Smith doesn’t add up for me. Fielding KO.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:08 pm

Got a similar feeling. Can't see what everybody is seeing in Smith to be calling him "the best prospect in the world", or something to that effect, as they were last year. Then again, haven't seen much in Fielding either, apart from the fact that he seems to be able to pull one punch KO power from nowhere.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:14 pm

Well what can I say....

The first fight was an absolute cracker. Dodd winning handily by 3 on my card gets stopped with just over a minute left......and have to say I didn't agree with that. Should have got an 8 count minimum there.

The Burns fight? He is so far passed it. Just retire buddy. What a dog awful scrap that was just there.

Never the less hoping for a cracker in the main. Feeling a smith stoppage late but wouldn't be surprised to see a fielding super uppercut end things randomly.

Who knows....who's kidding who?

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:15 pm

I don't think anybody has ever said anything of the sort about Smith.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:17 pm

Smith has class..Fielding doesn't.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:22 pm

Anybody know anything about their durability? Can't recall either of them having their chin tested.

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Post by hampo17 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:24 pm

Have to agree with HH, I remember people saying he was the best of the Smith brothers but certainly haven't see people say he's the best prospect in the world.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:24 pm

Fielding early or he can forget it...

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:25 pm

Think that's where the fight is won or lost.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:25 pm

I'm not the only one who remembers it:

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=492154

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:27 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:Think that's where the fight is won or lost.

Smith's excellent body punching will be the difference...Fielding always looks fleshy ..

I can see a body shot ending it !!

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:29 pm

Couldn't agree more. Said earlier I can smith winning this based on his body work. Fielding looks fleshy and always will hold his hands high and leaves that area for a good hook.....smith seems to have a great one......

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Post by Valero's Conscience Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:31 pm

Us Brits give Germany stick but we're hardly any better when it comes to dodgy refs and judges.

Dodd was denied what I'm sure would of been the pinnacle of his career.


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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:32 pm

Valero's Conscience wrote:Us Brits give Germany stick but we're hardly any better when it comes to dodgy refs and judges.

Dodd was denied what I'm sure would of been the pinnacle of his career.


Makes for a hard luck story but he wasn't denied anything, unless he came roaring back to drop/stop Cardle the knockdown itself cost him the fight.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:33 pm

I imagine he'll make more money from the rematch than he ever expected to make in his entire career when he first laced up the gloves.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:35 pm

Not sure hammer he was 4 up on 2 score cards and 1 up on another so even with the knockdown he would have definitely won a split decision.

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Post by Valero's Conscience Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:36 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Valero's Conscience wrote:Us Brits give Germany stick but we're hardly any better when it comes to dodgy refs and judges.

Dodd was denied what I'm sure would of been the pinnacle of his career.


Makes for a hard luck story but he wasn't denied anything, unless he came roaring back to drop/stop Cardle the knockdown itself cost him the fight.

I thought Dodd would of still won on the cards but if not, fair enough.

A joke from the ref though!

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:37 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:Not sure hammer he was 4 up on 2 score cards and 1 up on another so even with the knockdown he would have definitely won a split decision.

No he wasn't.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:38 pm

Wow

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 10:38 pm

That's what the commentators stated mate not me.

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