Wlad v Fury - predictions?

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Evening all,

What's everyone's thoughts on Saturdays fight? Wlad in round 9 for me.

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I think lack of experience at fighting at near to the level of Wladimir will eventually tell with Fury. I hope he does well, manages to cause Wlad a few difficulties and lasts to at least round 8. I hope he gives a good account of himself so that he can remain in the mix when Wlad finally retires which can't be too long now.

Even though Tyson Fury can be extremely nasty in some of his outbursts, he also can be very entertaining, mad cap but harmless. He is doing his part in selling the show.

I know muscles don't win fights, but the weigh-in looked like a 6ft 6 reenactment of Haye/Enzo.

Wlad looks an absolute ripped unit, whereas Fury just looks an absolute ripped duvet. In decent shape for him though, I guess; he's just not a natural athlete.

Also, as some have commented on, I really don't see the height difference. Am backing Wlad with even more confidence now, and I was only giving Fury a puncher's chance to begin with... which, for a non-puncher, wasn't much.

My guess is Fury will realise pretty soon he's out of his depth and get pancaked desperately pursuing his only winnable out, namely a lucky punch.

Think he'll have the balls to give it a go though, unlike some that have just boxed to survive.

There are only three scenarios in this one:

1) wade in and kod very early.

2) attempt to box cautiously using an amateurish style and get ko'd early ish because of bad habits.

2) box ultra cautiously and lose on points or stopped late.

He's never fought a top 20 heavyweight, and never looked a world beater while beating them. He is going to get exposed. I will be happy if I'm wrong, unfortunately I'm not.

Fury catches him right coming in...he goes.

So it's more than three scenarios..

It's 250 pound heavies we are talking about 3..

Qoxiivi wrote:Wlad looks an absolute ripped unit, whereas Fury just looks an absolute ripped duvet.

Quote of the year.

Are there really over 2 inches between these guys

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Fury catches him right coming in...he goes.

So it's more than three scenarios..

It's 250 pound heavies we are talking about 3..

And one of them punches like a light heavyweight

AdamT wrote:Are there really over 2 inches between these guys

I've just rewatched the weigh in and Wlad looks taller but they can't have got their heights wrong by that much surely?

Wlad's chin is dodgy....If it wasn't I wouldn't give Fury a prayer..

Are you watching it fingers ??

Hughie reckons Wlad is wearing padding. Even so I doubt there is more than an inch between them. Tyson is probably a similar height to Vitali.

Apparently Klitschko is 6ft6 and Fury is 6ft9

Klitschko looks either the same height or a shade taller.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:

AdamT wrote:Are there really over 2 inches between these guys

I've just rewatched the weigh in and Wlad looks taller but they can't have got their heights wrong by that much surely?

Probably playing with Fury's head and wearing lifts.....

Never seen anything to suggest Wlad is anything more than the 6'6 he's listed. His brother is 6'8 and he does look like he has two inches on him. Think Fury may have taken liberties regarding his height

Thing is it's not just been this weigh in. I've not seen any picture where there's three inches betwen them. Sure Fury has looked taller in some instances, but never has he seemed taller by a noteworthy difference

I've just looked at Chisora's weigh ins with Vitali and Fury; Vitali had a bigger height advantage than Fury did which sort of makes you question the reach aspect of it too, the sole advantage he had doesn't even exist.

You're right. Vitali definitely looks at least as tall as Fury. 6'9, my Wang hole.

Id planned to bu i'm not truss. Ive just bought a boxnation subscription. I'm not going to pay £25 + on boxing in a single month leading upto Christmas. I'd rather buy my daughter an elsa doll or something. In two minds whether to go out or just listen on the radio.

You aren't taking posture into account. .

Anyway the reach would have been measured....Fury has a bigger one

3fingers wrote:Id planned to bu i'm not truss. Ive just bought a boxnation subscription. I'm not going to pay £25 + on boxing in a single month leading upto Christmas. I'd rather buy my daughter an elsa doll or something. In two minds whether to go out or just listen on the radio.

Couldn't agree more....Get your daughter something nice..

Fury doesn't have poor posture. He doesn't slouch. His head doesn't poke forward which steals a few inches.

Even if it was a posture problem... his posture isnt gonna get better during a fight, especially if its taxing.

Just watched the 'stare-out'. Wlad's eye level and the top of his head are both higher. Even if it's a 'posture thing', Fury is, at most, the same height.

Anyway, it's kind of a moot point. They're both of a similar size but Fury's reach is longer, which evidently has its advantages at the buffet.

Does anyone think Fury will win the battle of the jab?

Pulev landed a few heavy jabs then Wlad went nuts. Probably same here.

No. He has an average jab at best. He's been able, when he's wanted, to keep people at bay with it because he's always been so much bigger that them. Jabbing is Wlad's game and he's stronger and has far more experience at it than Fury.

Look, anything can happen in HW boxing and Fury is a threat. He's game, large, has fast hands for a large fella (although not the power to go with it) and is a bit unorthodox. It's an intriguing match-up, but most of the attributes that matter are in Klitschko's favour, and heavily so.

Fury does have a chance though. I mean, one punch is all it took for Lewis to get flattened by Rahman, but he had one-punch KO power and I think Lewis underestimated him/got sloppy. None of these apply here.

Fury is well out of his modest depth, Wlad by KO inside 2 rounds. I dont think Fury will want to take too much punishment when the reality of the gap in class hits him along with Wlads right hand.

Hogey, wlad has had that gap in class against any recent opponent but KO inside 2 I can't see.

Most of Wlad's recent opponents had enough power to keep Wlad a little cautious and chins strong enough to endure a slow pummeling, unfortunately Fury has no power and a very suspect jaw my suspicion is the fight will be over the first time Wlad throws and lands any sort of clean right hand.

DuransHorse wrote:Marlonz, I see what your saying but as a man nearing 40 myself I have a six pack and look the sportsman now, when I was younger I carried a bit more wobbly timber despite being into exorcise. My younger self would beat me hands down these days. Muscles and a sixpack can disguise the deterioration of the engine and joints running the show.

I take your point Durans - aesthetics can be deceiving. But I don't think Fury has the footspeed of Jennings and for all the scrappiness of that fight, Wladimir was still able to display decent staying power going down the stretch. Between then and now (I could be wrong of course) - judging by the public workouts and training footage of Wlad for this fight, I'd be shocked if he gets out-manoeuvred and humbled in the athleticism department. I just feel he hasn't grown old enough, yet.

Klitschko has always had pretty suspect stamina despite looking chiselled. Fury wont win the fight if he stands of Klitschko and boxes him. Even if he did outjab Klitschko the chances of him getting a decision there are remote and it would foolish to rely on the judges. I think he has to attack Klitschko, make him work to a high pace and the cracks will appear. Fury has readily accepted that he hes got little chance of winning a decision so I think he will be going for a knockout. I hope so anyway.

If he stands in front of Wlad, it will be over before the final instructions have finished echoing around the Arena. Fury cant compete in any single attribute his only hope of lasting a few rounds is to get his running shoes on.

You were saying Chisora was going to whup him in their last fight as well though.

Klitschko is the favourite, rightly so. But there are ways to exploit his weaknesses and go for the upset.

Yes I thought Chisora would beat him, but that was a battle of bums Wlad would beat both of them on one night. Better boxer, much harder puncher, better defence, better footwork and even a better chin at least those that KOed Wlad years ago could punch based on Fury punch resistance to shots from non punchers like Pajkic and Cunningham he might get floored by a Wlad jab.

I dont think people are disputing that Klitschko holds most of the advantages. We are talking tactics and gameplan.

You stand off Klitschko, you fight to his pace then you play to Klitschkos strength. Even if you outbox him you probably dont win a decision.

Attack him, you make him work, you get up close where he is weak then Fury has a gives himself a shot.

You might want to re-evaluate Fury. He has fought his way up through the traditional route of British and European titles and world title eliminators, all the while consistently proving you wrong. Klitschko himself had been knocked out by a journeyman before achieving that.

Nah. He's Poopie and you're wrong.

Yup, coming from another guy that said Chosroa would knock him out

I thought Chisora would too but I was impressed how easy Fury made that for himself and was happy to be wrong as Chisora would have been less interesting to see in with Wlad.

If I were Tyson I would at least try to start behind the jab just because that's the tool that's started making his life easier and he might, although unlikely, have good success and get some good shots and openings off the back of it.

What I wouldn't do is go southpaw. He may be able to go southpaw by technical definition but he's cap at it and looks clumsy... or clumsier.

Read a report that says Fury may use lots of lateral movement to try and befuddle Wlad.

Heard it all now.

Fury, once he eats his first jab will simply resort to oaf like wading in and will get sparked out as he will have forgotten this isn't some bum he's up against

Wlad in 1-3 or 4-6 is what I've put my money on.

Fury will start sensibly, the only thing he can't afford is to be blown out early. Anything else and he can rebuild a reputation. Anybody who thinks Wlad will try and end it early obviously doesn't understand German boxing. Wlad will allow it to go a few rounds and possibly start cautiously anyway.

Wlad will win by KOI believe. But with two fairly defensive heavyweights I can't see it ending before the 6th

I don't think Wlad is daft enough to leave himself wide open to a sucker punch, so it will be jab,wait for the opening and win by TKO in the 6th.

Lance wrote:Fury will start sensibly, the only thing he can't afford is to be blown out early. Anything else and he can rebuild a reputation. Anybody who thinks Wlad will try and end it early obviously doesn't understand German boxing. Wlad will allow it to go a few rounds and possibly start cautiously anyway.

Wlad will win by KOI believe. But with two fairly defensive heavyweights I can't see it ending before the 6th

There's a history of guys thinking they're bigger, stronger etc and getting blown away. Hatton banging on about how Pacquiao hadn't fought anyone like him and then coming out all guns blazing etc.

Now, I'm not comparing Wlad to Pacquiao!! But I believe Fury and his ego simply won't let him fight cautiously, he'll force the pace and that'll be his undoing in my eyes.

I don't think it matters what tactics Fury has in mind, I believe Wlad will have all the answers, I hope I'm wrong but can't see anything other than a Klitschko win.

I don't believe for a second Fury thinks he's better than Wlad.

Lance wrote:I don't believe for a second Fury thinks he's better than Wlad.

The first part of your sentence was correct!

Breaking news on the Beeb, Fury threatens to pull out of fight over canvas being to soft, that's a new one.

Are there any quality controls regarding the canvass. I suppose a soft canvass will slow the speed down and could take some use to in terms of stability for those not used to it. It should favour the more technical, slower boxer

think he's just being a bitch lol. If Wlad calls his bluff Fury will never get his big payday no one will want to work with someone who cries at the last second not without stipulations at any rate.

K2 are saying it's not secured yet and have said once it's sorted fury can check it again

Coxy, Fury may have an ego but he's definitely learnt to fight cautiously. Watch chisora 2 and tell me why he continued to stay behind the jab even after he'd tenderised del boy for 10 solid rounds. He could have opened up and slaughtered him but didn't. That was a lesser opponent whose threat was extinguished by mid way through the fight yet still he played safe. He has learnt to fight cautiously.

Has anybody seen the video of Tyson trying out the ring earlier today? He's practically sinking in to it and they've had to make changes, so stupid.

That's to protect his head.