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Post by George Carlin Mon 30 Nov 2015, 6:12 am

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Ulster Rugby v
Edinburgh Rugby 
Friday 4 December 2015
KO: 19:35
Kingspan Stadium, Belfast

Live on BBC Heedrumhodrum & BBC NI

Referee: Ian Davies (WRU, 38th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Kieran Barry, Frank Murphy (both IRFU)
Citing Commissioner: John Cole (IRFU)
TMO: Alan Rogan (IRFU)

A. Head to Head

26 Played 26
17 Wins 9
9 Losses 17
0 Draws 0
631 Points 428

B. Form

Fri 3 October 2014
Ulster Rugby 30 - 0 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 20 February 2015
Edinburgh Rugby 17 - 20 Ulster Rugby

C. Teams

Ulster Rugby
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1. Kyle McCall
2. Rob Herring (c)
3. Ricky Lutton
4. Dan Tuohy
5. Franco van der Merwe
6. Iain Henderson
7. Chris Henry
8. Roger Wilson
9. Ruan Pienaar
10. Paddy Jackson
11. Rory Scholes
12. Luke Marshall
13. Darren Cave
14. Andrew Trimble
15. Peter Nelson

16. John Andrew 17. Andy Warwick 18. Wiehahn Herbst 19. Alan O'Connor 20. Nick Williams 21. Paul Marshall 22. Stuart McCloskey 23. Louis Ludik

Edinburgh Rugby
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15 Jack Cuthbert

14 Dougie Fife

13 Chris Dean

12 Matt Scott

11 Will Helu

10 Phil Burleigh

9 Sean Kennedy



1 Alasdair Dickinson

2 Ross Ford

3 WP Nel

4 Anton Bresler

5 Alex Toolis

6 Mike Coman (capt)

7 John Hardie

8 Cornell Du Preez



Substitutes

16 Neil Cochrane

17 Rory Sutherland

18 John Andress

19 Jamie Ritchie

20 Hamish Watson

21 Nathan Fowles

22 Michael Allen

23 Blair Kinghorn


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Post by RDW Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:07 pm

No way can you see a try there!

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Post by tigertattie Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:11 pm

I'm liking the Hardie/Watson combo

I'm not liking the Ulster obstruction every play
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Post by VinceWLB Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:12 pm

Reckon thats Matt Scott shoulder gone..

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Post by RDW Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:14 pm

Fair play to the touch judge - huge call, but correct

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Post by RDW Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:15 pm

Edinburgh'a defence truly has been outstanding!

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Post by BigGee Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:15 pm

Solly has discovered the art of substitutions at long last!

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Post by RDW Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:17 pm

Hamish Watson getting held up again - same thing happened several times last time we played Ulster

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Post by VinceWLB Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:19 pm

Lots of injury to Ulster players which shows how tough Edinburgh are to play against!

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Post by RDW Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:20 pm

Looked flat!

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Post by BigGee Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:21 pm

That is some injury list for Ulster now

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:22 pm

VinceWLB wrote:Lots of injury to Ulster players which shows how tough Edinburgh are to play against!

Unfortunately they have been freak injuries bar the Darren Cave one. I don't think that is relatable at all really.

I should add of course that Edinburgh have been extremely physical, especially in defence.


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Post by BigGee Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:23 pm

Very marginal!

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Post by RDW Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:24 pm

We've really not helped ourselves tonight messing up in the red zone

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:25 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:We've really not helped ourselves tonight messing up in the red zone

Both teams have been guilty of this. Frustrating!

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Post by RDW Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:26 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:We've really not helped ourselves tonight messing up in the red zone

Both teams have been guilty of this. Frustrating!

Ulster have had plenty opportunities!

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Post by VinceWLB Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:26 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
VinceWLB wrote:Lots of injury to Ulster players which shows how tough Edinburgh are to play against!

Unfortunately they have been freak injuries bar the Darren Cave one. I don't think that is relatable at all really.

I should add of course that Edinburgh have been extremely physical, especially in defence.

This has been an incredibly physical game.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:27 pm

It could cost us. We have been much better tonight but not nearly clinical enough.

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Post by BigGee Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:28 pm

Edinburgh need to play the territory now. Get down into their 22

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Post by neilthom7 Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:29 pm

Almost glad I was working late and couldn't get to the game tonight thats and awful night out there. The wind would take the head of you so it's not wonder kicking into it is so difficult for them. This is going to be an immensely tight last 11 minutes

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Post by RDW Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:30 pm

Inexperience from Kinghorn - we've not played the territory game well this half - too much rugby in our own half

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Post by neilthom7 Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:32 pm

yess Luke Marshall deserves that hes been very good tonight.

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Post by RDW Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:32 pm

Penalty!

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Post by neilthom7 Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:32 pm

oh hang on

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Post by neilthom7 Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:33 pm

Henry is definitely holding him

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Post by RDW Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:33 pm

Clear penalty - come on!

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Post by neilthom7 Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:34 pm

oh its ruled out. no try.

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Post by VinceWLB Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:34 pm

Some cheating from Mr Henry

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Post by RDW Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:34 pm

We've had so many get out of jails here - we've got to make the most of it!

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Post by neilthom7 Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:35 pm

Commentator arguing it happens all the time well I'm sorry but that doesn't make it right. Think the ref is spot on just a pity for Luke really. Silly by Henry

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Post by BigGee Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:37 pm

That was a fair call, caught in the act!

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Post by RDW Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:39 pm

Edinburgh will be completely gutted if they fail to get anything out of this game

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Post by RDW Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:42 pm

What was Fowles thinking?!!!

Such a stupid decision to kick!

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Post by VinceWLB Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:44 pm

Absolutely pathetic to kick that ball away from Fowles after a turnover

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Post by neilthom7 Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:45 pm

Well that was tight, Edinburgh extremely physical, you guys came and saw and very nearly conquered. Ulster injuries are once again mounting henderson and cave are important players we could do with them not being out long. Wind played havoc with the game but we looked better than previous games I'd say. slightly better at the breakdown and in defence and we offered a bit more in attack. Luke Marshall did well and Kyle McCall was excellant in the scrum. Think Lutton has probably moved ahead of Herbst. McCloskey looked good and Williams is definately a lot better this year. Toulouse next week will be an interesting test.

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Post by BigGee Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:45 pm

What on earth was that Fowles, gave the ball away. Silly silly kick

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Post by RDW Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:45 pm

Tell you what - that was a fantastic game given the conditions.

Gutted we didn't get more out of that - I think a draw would have been as fair result - but glad we at least got a point.

Herculean defensive effort but we just didn't play smart enough rugby over the 80.

Well done Ulster!


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Post by VinceWLB Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:46 pm

Well that was a ferocious game.

Well done Ulster, hope both teams can meet up again in the playoffs.

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Post by Pot Hale Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:46 pm

Good feisty match. Good officiating by the ref.

Well done Ulster and hard luck Edinburgh - they could have won that.
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Post by BigGee Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:48 pm

That was a cracking game, especially given the conditions.

Well done Ulster, a good second half and deserved the win. Edinburgh will be thinking what if, but at least took a point away.

Lack of composure again cost Edinburgh, but there was still a lot to be pleased about. They really do need a playmaker though!

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:49 pm

Fair outcome based on the teams. Thought the ref had a strong game - miles better than Mitrea.

Fowles is an idiot. So is Andy Nicol.

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Post by Pot Hale Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:49 pm

McCall a good choice for MOTM from Ulster's PoV. He's got a future playing like that.
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Post by RDW Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:52 pm

I though McLosky was MOTM - he caused absolute carnage when he came on.

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Post by BigGee Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:53 pm

Pinear and McCluscky were the stand out players for Ulster, a player who can control a game is invaluable on a night like this

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Post by RDW Fri 04 Dec 2015, 9:54 pm

I also agree the ref was good - amazing how few penalties there were in the game!

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Post by RDW Fri 04 Dec 2015, 10:03 pm

From an Edinburgh PoV I thought Scott, Du Preez and Hardie had very good games. Kennedy did pretty well given he had the half into the wind. The front row were disappointing - they desperately need a rest next week. The reserve front row did well when they came on.

We desperately need a 10 though, and the least said about Fowles' cameo the better!

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Post by justified sinner Fri 04 Dec 2015, 10:07 pm

Good game. Well done Ulster in an incredibly physical match. Ref good, but seemed to miss a few forward passes.

Enjoyed that despite the results.

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Post by Don Alfonso Fri 04 Dec 2015, 10:12 pm

Delighted with that. We lost Hendo, Nelson, Cave, Tuohy and just kept rocking. Kyle McCall is the front rower's front rower. He had Nel's number. I did laugh when they had Chris Henry there for his MOTM interview - McCall: "eh, yeah, no, great that we won... eh... I like scrummaging".

Thought we were comfortably better than Edinburgh - sorry Capital City fans. Really, really tough game - great watch, which given the weather, is a real testament to both teams' endeavour. That could have so easily turned into a slodge-fest, instead it was exciting and neither team gave an inch.

Finally - brilliant refereeing. Well done that man.

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Post by VinceWLB Fri 04 Dec 2015, 10:21 pm

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Thought we were comfortably better than Edinburgh

I obviously beg to differ, a draw wouldn't have been a travesty.

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Post by Don Alfonso Fri 04 Dec 2015, 10:25 pm

I'm going to reiterate that- brilliant reffing. There was an Edinburgh throw from a line-out that ended up outside the Ulster players' outside shoulders - he played on because it was thrown straight, and carried by the wind. And shouted that instantly to the players. He wanted a wide angle to see if Chris Henry chancing his arm for Marshall's non-try had actually affected play, rather than just disallowing the try automatically. He was right there for Clive Ross over the line and made his decision - he didn't need any TMO.

It is must certainly not a coincidence that that was a great game and he did a brilliant job. Was great with the scrums as well. If he could let play go, he did.

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Post by Don Alfonso Fri 04 Dec 2015, 10:30 pm

VinceWLB wrote:
Don Alfonso wrote:
Thought we were comfortably better than Edinburgh

I obviously beg to differ, a draw wouldn't have been a travesty.

Not a travesty, but a surprise, for me. Superb in defence, but I thought Edinburgh looked very short of ideas in attack. Great kick for the try, but I was much more worried about Ulster giving away our traditional stupid, needless penalties than Edinburgh scoring another.

Still, good game.

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