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Donald Trump blows the White House in Muslim row !!
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Everyone moans about why we have professional politicians (nobody more than me) But "front runner" Trump last night shows why we do have professional politicians..
"We should ban all Muslims coming to America...because we don't know what their attitude is !!"........
This naive banding of all Muslims together may work with the religious right-apple-pie republicans but it's highly inflammatory and won't play well with the floaters.... the sensible GOPers.... or any one with an ethnic background..
It's not nazi Germany.....
Shame is with Iowa coming up.... the guy was winning according to the the GOP polling..........
As with all non professional politicians...Trump talks too much...
Bye bye Mr Trump..
Everyone moans about why we have professional politicians (nobody more than me) But "front runner" Trump last night shows why we do have professional politicians..
"We should ban all Muslims coming to America...because we don't know what their attitude is !!"........
This naive banding of all Muslims together may work with the religious right-apple-pie republicans but it's highly inflammatory and won't play well with the floaters.... the sensible GOPers.... or any one with an ethnic background..
It's not nazi Germany.....
Shame is with Iowa coming up.... the guy was winning according to the the GOP polling..........
As with all non professional politicians...Trump talks too much...
Bye bye Mr Trump..
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He won't be hammered...Because America is scared right now...
These shootings coupled with 9/11 and other atrocities means there is a deep mistrust of anything Islam...We are an insular nation...
Hilary is also tainted...
Trump isn't xenophobic he's trying to secure a ride to the play offs..
Hilary will win but Trump will make it close because he can like Obama stir up the disillusioned -with-politicians types and republicans won't vote for Hilary..and higher taxes..
Rubio will get the nod anyway..
These shootings coupled with 9/11 and other atrocities means there is a deep mistrust of anything Islam...We are an insular nation...
Hilary is also tainted...
Trump isn't xenophobic he's trying to secure a ride to the play offs..
Hilary will win but Trump will make it close because he can like Obama stir up the disillusioned -with-politicians types and republicans won't vote for Hilary..and higher taxes..
Rubio will get the nod anyway..
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Possibly so, but he's damaged too many bridges re. hispanics, muslims etc to think they'll listen to him when he says, after getting the GOP nod, "Hey guys! I was just kidding so I could take on Hilary."TRUSSMAN66 wrote:...Trump isn't xenophobic he's trying to secure a ride to the play offs.....
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He doesn't have to say he was kidding......
I imagine non-muslim hispanics and blacks will be as worried as anyone else..
Republicans have always polled low with hispanics and blacks anyway.....
However he's not really a republican so he's bound to attract non voters who are sick of the Washington bubble....
He's also polling better in Florida with hispanics than the other candidates..
Obama only beat Romney by 51-49% in Pennsylvania and narrowly won Florida.....50.1 to 49.13......These are two of the three real bellwether states worth following...
Ohio will be a problem............But he wins the other two I imagine he wins the election..
I imagine non-muslim hispanics and blacks will be as worried as anyone else..
Republicans have always polled low with hispanics and blacks anyway.....
However he's not really a republican so he's bound to attract non voters who are sick of the Washington bubble....
He's also polling better in Florida with hispanics than the other candidates..
Obama only beat Romney by 51-49% in Pennsylvania and narrowly won Florida.....50.1 to 49.13......These are two of the three real bellwether states worth following...
Ohio will be a problem............But he wins the other two I imagine he wins the election..
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Sooo...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRfP_TEQ-g
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRfP_TEQ-g
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Scottrf wrote:Sooo...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRfP_TEQ-g
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Apple Pie avenue loves this sort of thing....
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That's the worry. If you changed the outfits and lyrics to those of the DPRK, it wouldn't look out of place!
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In fairness though it gives "It's raining Mccain" by the McCain girls are run for their money..
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I hear Pailin is backing Trump
That is quite the ticket!
Donald for Pres!!!!!!!
That is quite the ticket!
Donald for Pres!!!!!!!
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Gwlad wrote:I hear Pailin is backing Trump
That is quite the ticket!
Donald for Pres!!!!!!!
I've been watching that this morning. They were eating pancakes together. Very quaint.
She was addressing the audience and said something along the lines of
MILF Palin wrote: Do we want a Commander in Chief who will let our warriors (!) do their job and go kick ISIS's ass?
Cue lots of whooping and hollering. Trump standing there looking monged out in some strange Darth Vader style coat. I think the world is bright lights and colours to the Don.
I didn't think there was anyone in US politics madder than Donald but I forgot about her.
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Donald Trump for president is going to save the Emerging markets.
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Palin would give a considered blowie.
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Does she really still count as 'in politics' at this point? Also; interesting timing, considering her son just got arrested for beating up his girlfriend.Mind the windows Tino. wrote:I didn't think there was anyone in US politics madder than Donald but I forgot about her.
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Palin is useful for Trump....Ultra right wing retarded apple pie-ers still love her and it's a bracket Trump polls low in...You know the red neck types that live in expensive caves..
She won't get the VP nod as Trump isn't that stupid..
She won't get the VP nod as Trump isn't that stupid..
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Is it really possible Trump could become president?
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Palin is useful for Trump....Ultra right wing retarded apple pie-ers still love her and it's a bracket Trump polls low in...You know the red neck types that live in expensive caves..
She won't get the VP nod as Trump isn't that stupid..
and thats even funnier…she might just be the world's dullest person considering she curled out a large one on her own team by comparing Obama to a tea-making 'community organizer' the likes of which are ten a penny in Trump World
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Palintology:
'Squirmsihes'
Brilliant.
'Squirmsihes'
Brilliant.
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My favourite part of the rally was Donald Trump saying he'll fix [enter perceived Obama failure] and when the crowd asked how, he'd say something to the effect of "Don't worry I'll do it". They absolutely loved it. Talk about a cult of personality
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kingraf wrote:My favourite part of the rally was Donald Trump saying he'll fix [enter perceived Obama failure] and when the crowd asked how, he'd say something to the effect of "Don't worry I'll do it". They absolutely loved it. Talk about a cult of personality
My favourite Trumpism came when he was talking about Obamacare.
He was attempting to describe how some of the numbers didn't add up but ending saying:
Donald Trump wrote: It's gone bad. Really bigly.
Really bigly.
Beautiful stuff.
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Too many Americans are f*cking stupid though. They elected Bush twice and he was quasi-retarded. Don't be surprised if Trump is successful....
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Mind the windows Tino. wrote:kingraf wrote:My favourite part of the rally was Donald Trump saying he'll fix [enter perceived Obama failure] and when the crowd asked how, he'd say something to the effect of "Don't worry I'll do it". They absolutely loved it. Talk about a cult of personality
My favourite Trumpism came when he was talking about Obamacare.
He was attempting to describe how some of the numbers didn't add up but ending saying:Donald Trump wrote: It's gone bad. Really bigly.
Really bigly.
Beautiful stuff.
With Trump/Palin as the leaders of the free world the English language would see a revolution last seen with Shakespeare
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TopHat24/7 wrote:Too many Americans are f*cking stupid though. They elected Bush twice and he was quasi-retarded. Don't be surprised if Trump is successful....
Cognoscenti believe that the Republicans won't nominate him. Of course the republicans dont want to and are publicly disavowing him in some cases, but if they deduce he has popular support - i'd say he has - they might just have to.
If elected he can be controlled by his party and become a puppet like George.
Its a scary thought - i live in Nort America - but after Obama and his Liberal views on war, health care, guns and religion, a Republican President who is a liability is a better option than a Democratic apparently.
What worries me most is that i can guarantee you even before taking office, that trump will be a War President.
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The thing about Trump is that he probably doesn't beat anyone in the Republican field in a 1-on-1 contest, but the chances of a single opposing candidate emerging (quickly) are pretty minimal. The only one that's been able to create any sort of seperation is Cruz, and the party might actually like him less than Trump. By the time a winner emerges from the Bush/Rubio/Kasich/Christie fight, it might be too late for them.
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Lowlandbrit wrote:The thing about Trump is that he probably doesn't beat anyone in the Republican field in a 1-on-1 contest, but the chances of a single opposing candidate emerging (quickly) are pretty minimal. The only one that's been able to create any sort of seperation is Cruz, and the party might actually like him less than Trump. By the time a winner emerges from the Bush/Rubio/Kasich/Christie fight, it might be too late for them.
True. And as I say, the only person i see giving Hillary a run for her money is Trump.
The backlash may be that if they do nominate him, enough sensible Americans will come forward and do the right thing….but that is where I start to have real doubts.
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Candidates will drop out after SC..Iowa..and NH..
Their support will go the rank and file candidates...
Super Tuesday is where it's won and lost..
If Rubio promises Bush the VP slot....He'll be a formidable opponent if he's last in..
Think he'd rather have a chick though..
Bush and when/whether he drops out is pivotal..
Their support will go the rank and file candidates...
Super Tuesday is where it's won and lost..
If Rubio promises Bush the VP slot....He'll be a formidable opponent if he's last in..
Think he'd rather have a chick though..
Bush and when/whether he drops out is pivotal..
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If Donald Trump offered you a job what would you like ??
Palin - "Head of the "Department of energy"so I could dig up all this wonderful oil and gas and give it to the people and not have to buy from these Countries that don't like us..."
Thought most people knew that Oil and gas policy is drawn up by the "Department of the Interior"..
Geez....
Palin - "Head of the "Department of energy"so I could dig up all this wonderful oil and gas and give it to the people and not have to buy from these Countries that don't like us..."
Thought most people knew that Oil and gas policy is drawn up by the "Department of the Interior"..
Geez....
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seanmichaels wrote:Is it really possible Trump could become president?
Fingers crossed.
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Duty281 wrote:seanmichaels wrote:Is it really possible Trump could become president?
Fingers crossed.
I bet he doesn't like your sort, Doots.
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Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Duty281 wrote:seanmichaels wrote:Is it really possible Trump could become president?
Fingers crossed.
I bet he doesn't like your sort, Doots.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/12/18/donald_trump_is_obviously_the_most_pro_gay_gop_candidate.html
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Trump and Palin remind me of Alan Sugar and Karen Brady
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DAVE wrote:Trump and Palin remind me of Alan Sugar and Karen Brady
All vacuous C8ntlarks...
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Polls
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Fox news - Clinton 44 - 47 Trump
Rasmuss - Clinton 37 - 36 Trump
NBC - Clinton 51 - 41 Trump
CNN - Clinton 49 - 47 Trump
Real average of polls Clinton 45.3 - Trump 42.8...
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Fox news - Clinton 44 - 47 Trump
Rasmuss - Clinton 37 - 36 Trump
NBC - Clinton 51 - 41 Trump
CNN - Clinton 49 - 47 Trump
Real average of polls Clinton 45.3 - Trump 42.8...
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....and that's as of now, before Trump has been hauled over the coals for his track record and ludicrous recent pronouncements. Assuming Hilary has no real issues re. e-mailgate, there's no way Trump's winning anything accept the GOP nomination and that's simply embarrassing for the GOP.TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Polls
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Fox news - Clinton 44 - 47 Trump
Rasmuss - Clinton 37 - 36 Trump
NBC - Clinton 51 - 41 Trump
CNN - Clinton 49 - 47 Trump
Real average of polls Clinton 45.3 - Trump 42.8...
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Don't rule out the debates...Bush overtook Gore (Gore was accused of bullying the village idiot)....Clinton overtook Bush...Kennedy overtook Nixon and Reagan overtook Carter...By winning them..
Not forgetting Bubblegum Ford blowing 76 by claiming Russia didn't dominate Eastern Europe..
They can be very significant..
Debates can be game changers. .
Not forgetting Bubblegum Ford blowing 76 by claiming Russia didn't dominate Eastern Europe..
They can be very significant..
Debates can be game changers. .
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Don't rule out the debates...Bush overtook Gore (Gore was accused of bullying the village idiot)....Clinton overtook Bush...Kennedy overtook Nixon and Reagan overtook Carter...By winning them..
Not forgetting Bubblegum Ford blowing 76 by claiming Russia didn't dominate Eastern Europe..
They can be very significant..
Debates can be game changers. .
So can "I can see Russia from my back yard"
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Palin has no relevance to my post
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Palin has no relevance to my post
Whatever
Fact is Palin aligning with Trump might be inspired but may be enough for the GOP to draw the line; fool me once you can't fool me….uh….again
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Palin isn't going to be with Trump..
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Palin isn't going to be with Trump..
You heard it here first. Perhaps not but then who thought they would ever be even worried about trump as a president?
Pretty sure John McCain wasn't thinking of taking her either; i strongly suspect that as a team they will appeal to the bible hefting, gun clinging, bitter clinging mid west perhaps more than any other candidates ever have.
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Mccain agreed to her because there was a whole load of feminists who thought Hilary was robbed against Obama...(If Florida had counted she'd have beaten him... )
They mistakenly thought these women would vote for anyone one with a pair of melons...
But unfortunately for Mccain most of them had standards..
They mistakenly thought these women would vote for anyone one with a pair of melons...
But unfortunately for Mccain most of them had standards..
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I dunno. McCain might be a bit old but it probably went through his head...Gwlad wrote:TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Palin isn't going to be with Trump..
You heard it here first. Perhaps not but then who thought they would ever be even worried about trump as a president?
Pretty sure John McCain wasn't thinking of taking her either; i strongly suspect that as a team they will appeal to the bible hefting, gun clinging, bitter clinging mid west perhaps more than any other candidates ever have.
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navyblueshorts wrote:I dunno. McCain might be a bit old but it probably went through his head...Gwlad wrote:TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Palin isn't going to be with Trump..
You heard it here first. Perhaps not but then who thought they would ever be even worried about trump as a president?
Pretty sure John McCain wasn't thinking of taking her either; i strongly suspect that as a team they will appeal to the bible hefting, gun clinging, bitter clinging mid west perhaps more than any other candidates ever have.
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Duty281 wrote:Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Duty281 wrote:seanmichaels wrote:Is it really possible Trump could become president?
Fingers crossed.
I bet he doesn't like your sort, Doots.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/12/18/donald_trump_is_obviously_the_most_pro_gay_gop_candidate.html
Most gayer friendly GOP candidate.
That's like been the best nonce between Jimmy and Rolf.
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Jimmy everytime.
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Gay rights as with abortion is a huge problem for the GOP.....
Most of the republican card carriers are anti-gay marriage but swing voters and soft democrats tend to be in favor..
Bloomberg poll 55% - Yes to gay marriage........36% - No..
As a rule "usually" you have to oppose it to get the GOP nomination but you're swimming against public opinion.....
Most of the republican card carriers are anti-gay marriage but swing voters and soft democrats tend to be in favor..
Bloomberg poll 55% - Yes to gay marriage........36% - No..
As a rule "usually" you have to oppose it to get the GOP nomination but you're swimming against public opinion.....
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Iowa caucus is Feb 1...Trump has a tougher race there than NH and SC.
If he wins Iowa many commentator think he's unstoppable...
As anyone who's bagged all 3 has seldom lost..
If he wins Iowa many commentator think he's unstoppable...
As anyone who's bagged all 3 has seldom lost..
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Quite a big story....
Trump has pulled out of the Fox news debate tomorrow night... because Megyn Kelly is a moderator....
Don't know if you guys saw the first fox news debate or the aftermath but I suggest you type in Donald trump v megyn kelly on youtube sometime...
Trump has called her everything and more...
Bet he's there for the debate.....Front runners always show up or they open the door !!!!.
Trump has pulled out of the Fox news debate tomorrow night... because Megyn Kelly is a moderator....
Don't know if you guys saw the first fox news debate or the aftermath but I suggest you type in Donald trump v megyn kelly on youtube sometime...
Trump has called her everything and more...
Bet he's there for the debate.....Front runners always show up or they open the door !!!!.
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most of the policies Trump talks about are unenforceable...for example the Mexican wall. the Mexicans will just add tariffs on U.S. goods.
the Middle East countries will do something about the Muslim ban.
point is big business will suffer and I don't think big business will allow Trump to do whatever he says, now.
it is also possible that he is just spilling words without meaning them.
who's to say that he won't be a bad Prez!
the Middle East countries will do something about the Muslim ban.
point is big business will suffer and I don't think big business will allow Trump to do whatever he says, now.
it is also possible that he is just spilling words without meaning them.
who's to say that he won't be a bad Prez!
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The Muslim ban is unconstitutional.....
Mexico is part of NAFTA......and we are their third largest export market ...They won't take the p**s......
Trump does talk a lot of bull....But it goes down well with the audience he's playing in front of.....
All about the GOP nomination...............Then he can worry about the Hill...
Mexico is part of NAFTA......and we are their third largest export market ...They won't take the p**s......
Trump does talk a lot of bull....But it goes down well with the audience he's playing in front of.....
All about the GOP nomination...............Then he can worry about the Hill...
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Would surely be a mistake for Trump to actually pull out of the debate. As Truss says not being there will open the door to other candidates, and it also gives off the impression of him being unable to stand the heat from Mrs Kelly.
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