Aviva Premiership - Round 7

by **LondonTiger** Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:06 am

First topic message reminder :

Table

Team	--P--	--W--	--D--	--BP--	Points
Saracens	6	6	0	3	27
Exeter	6	5	0	4	24
Leicester	6	5	0	1	21
Harlequins	6	4	0	4	20
Northampton	6	3	0	4	16
Wasps	6	3	0	2	14
Gloucester	6	3	0	1	13
Sale Sharks	6	2	1	3	13
Bath	6	2	0	3	11
Worcester	6	2	0	2	10
Newcastle	6	0	1	0	2
London Irish	6	0	0	0	0

Fixtures

SATURDAY 26TH DECEMBER 2015
14:30 London Irish v Northampton
15:00 Exeter v Sale
15:00 Leicester v Newcastle

SUNDAY 27TH DECEMBER 2015
14:00 Wasps v Saracens
14:30 Bath v Worcester
16:30 Harlequins v Gloucester

by yappysnap Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:35 pm

Add in Hill and Sloan and there's a good crop there

by Sgt_Pooly Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:56 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:Williams has been excellent for us, but he is still a kid. I'd leave him in the U20's if I am honest, he still has a lot to work on.

I'm having an interesting discussion with a so called journalist on twitter who reckons Paul Hill is better than Ben Franks.

That's an interesting opinion.

I thought Hill was decent today but Ethan Waller had real issues with Franks.

by formerly known as Sam Sat Dec 26, 2015 11:35 pm

Yes Dave I heard that as well. I think it best to tie them both to England and have a look at a couple of centres who aren't just big or aren't just playmakers. These two have the passing, kicking, physical carrying and pace. Two all rounders getting game time in the AP at a young age.

by DaveM Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:08 am

yappysnap wrote:Add in Hill and Sloan and there's a good crop there

Glad to hear Sloan is progressing. Hill didn't get injured yesterday did he? Devoto vs Mills is an interesting sub-plot in the game today - I've had high hopes for both of them in the past.

by DaveM Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:11 am

formerly known as Sam wrote:Yes Dave I heard that as well. I think it best to tie them both to England and have a look at a couple of centres who aren't just big or aren't just playmakers. These two have the passing, kicking, physical carrying and pace. Two all rounders getting game time in the AP at a young age.

I agree. They seems to possess the sort of skill-sets we need. The England midfield will get there eventually, and it's good to see the AP giving chances to players I hadn't heard of last season.

by formerly known as Sam Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:31 am

Devoto frustrates me. Great one week anonymous the next. Has the skills and physical attributes but can't hold a starting berth at Bath. Mills is doing alright at Wuss though I can't see him getting a call up this season unless he starts setting the world on fire. Be interesting to see that midfield battle progress but I guess it's not on TV.

Sloan and Hill are good options for the Saxons as well. I like Hill's direct running for Exeter. Good footwork and offers the hard line tuner between two play makers, would like to see more to his game though. Sloan is doing well for Quins but I guess with the returning options from injury he won't get many opportunities between now and Feb.

by yappysnap Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:42 am

Roberts will be first choice, Sloan was very good though, for a youngster he just did all the basics well, gave our midfield some solidity while not trying anything silly, which in a Quins team is needed more then someone who can bring the x factor. I don't think we'll notice a massive difference when Roberts is away for England.

by formerly known as Sam Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:39 am

Will he start ahead of Stanley Yappy?

by lostinwales Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:49 am

yappysnap wrote:Roberts will be first choice, Sloan was very good though, for a youngster he just did all the basics well, gave our midfield some solidity while not trying anything silly, which in a Quins team is needed more then someone who can bring the x factor. I don't think we'll notice a massive difference when Roberts is away for ~~England.~~ somewhere else

by nathan Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:04 pm

Gopperth having a few errors so far

by nathan Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:08 pm

Miller should of jumped when attempting to catch that ball

by nathan Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:18 pm

Thought it would of been a penalty if you slapped the ball out of a players hands

by nathan Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:21 pm

20 minutes in and neither side has managed more than 3 phases. Oh dear

by king_carlos Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:28 pm

That was poor from Goode. He usually earns his wage in those situations but that was butchered.

by **Rugby Fan** Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:34 pm

Saracens are very good at throttling attacking teams. Having said that, they ought to be better than 3-6 ahead given their territory and ball advantage.

by **Rugby Fan** Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:45 pm

Wasps have a lineout which doesn't work, and a scrum going backwards but are only down by three points after 40 minutes. Curious match.

by king_carlos Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:05 pm

Daly really is some kicker!

Halfpenny started out as a guy who whacked them over from long range...

by **Rugby Fan** Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:11 pm

This is an annoying game to watch. Both sides are making so many mistakes that you don't want any of these players in an England shirt on this showing. Saracens seem to have Wasps' number but will only have themselves to blame if they can't make it count.

by king_carlos Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:16 pm

I thought Fraser was unfortunate in real time but looking at the replay there wasn't a clear release.

by king_carlos Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:20 pm

Cracking line from Taylor and good delayed ball from Barritt.

I'm no fan of the choke tackle but Billy V really is excellent at using his bulk to get underneath runners and hold them up.

by **Rugby Fan** Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:22 pm

Saracens now have a try, and a 9-16 lead, which is the least they deserve. Wasps need to find some kind of response or else they will soon be out of this match.

by **Rugby Fan** Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:23 pm

Well, now Wasps look out of it. Farrell goes over for a try and its 9-23

by king_carlos Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:23 pm

That's really unfortunate from Wasps perspective but ruthless as ever from Sarries when they got the chance.

by formerly known as Sam Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:30 pm

Wasps look toothless with Gopperth at ten. The missing back rowers are only exacerbating the problem.

by formerly known as Sam Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:35 pm

Why did Sarries kick that penalty? Five metres out and a couple of tries up on the scoreboard. That has to be a platform to attack and go for a third try surely.

by king_carlos Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:42 pm

That's a good line and off load by Haskell then Daly executing his basics to put Halai in. Nice try.

by **LondonTiger** Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:42 pm

Wasps needed to be at full strength to really challenge.

by **Rugby Fan** Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:43 pm

Itoje named man of the match.

by **LondonTiger** Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:45 pm

Rugby Fan wrote:Itoje named man of the match.

Thought Kruis was better.

by stub Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:54 pm

Wuss pick up a losing bonus point at Bath which I certainly would have taken before the match. Sounds like it was a reasonably tight match.

by stub Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:55 pm

Over 70000 in for the Quins Glaws match - pretty impressive.

by **LondonTiger** Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:59 pm

stub wrote:Wuss pick up a losing bonus point at Bath which I certainly would have taken before the match. Sounds like it was a reasonably tight match.

Was typical of Barf and Wuss this season. The home team had wave after wave of possession and attacks no no real effect. Worcester fought and scrapped all game long.

by stub Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:08 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
stub wrote:Wuss pick up a losing bonus point at Bath which I certainly would have taken before the match. Sounds like it was a reasonably tight match.

Was typical of Barf and Wuss this season. The home team had wave after wave of possession and attacks no no real effect. Worcester fought and scrapped all game long.

Hopefully that scrappy defiance will keep Wuss up this season. Things getting a bit tighter now after London Irish's impressive win yesterday.

by sad_gimp Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:08 pm

Bah, quins looking good but Glos taking every opportunity.

Kvesic making a proper nuisance of himself, Clifford playing well too.

Care is on top form too.

by stub Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:10 pm

Good match at Twickenham - I didn't realise Hook could run that fast for Glaws second try!!

by **LondonTiger** Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:38 pm

Awful luck for jonny may

by stub Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:43 pm

Yep, terrible shame for Jonny - what a pity.

by king_carlos Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:45 pm

I've only just tuned into the Quins-Gloucs game for the second half. How was the first?

A real shame for May.

Sharples is playing well if we want another flyer though!

Kvesic and Robshaw are both doing well too.

Lowe vs Trinder is the sort of EPQ centre battle I wish we saw more often.

by stub Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:50 pm

king_carlos wrote:I've only just tuned into the Quins-Gloucs game for the second half. How was the first?

A real shame for May.

Sharples is playing well if we want another flyer though!

Kvesic and Robshaw are both doing well too.

Lowe vs Trinder is the sort of EPQ centre battle I wish we saw more often.

Quins have been doing all the work whilst Gloucester keep punishing any error they make. An enjoyable battle to watch.

by ChequeredJersey Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:50 pm

Cracking match the Big Game

by king_carlos Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:51 pm

Oh how I've missed seeing Jamie Roberts playing like that instead of running the same short line every play!

Good break by Roberts, great offload from Brown and impressive pace from Chisholm to finish things off.

by king_carlos Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:52 pm

stub wrote:
king_carlos wrote:I've only just tuned into the Quins-Gloucs game for the second half. How was the first?

A real shame for May.

Sharples is playing well if we want another flyer though!

Kvesic and Robshaw are both doing well too.

Lowe vs Trinder is the sort of EPQ centre battle I wish we saw more often.

Quins have been doing all the work whilst Gloucester keep punishing any error they make. An enjoyable battle to watch.

Cheers stub. I'm certainly enjoying this much more than any other game this weekend.

by king_carlos Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:52 pm

That is heartbreaking to watch for Trinder. Sad

by stub Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:52 pm

Poor old Trinder now...

by sad_gimp Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:53 pm

Awful to see Trinder :/ Turning into a hell of a match though

by stub Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:06 pm

Yep - great match. 9 tries is that? Not a bad advert for the AP.

by king_carlos Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:06 pm

I didn't think Rob Cook had that in him! Erm

by formerly known as Sam Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:13 pm

Cook has had a fairly average game and the just came alive there. This is like an amateur boxing day exhibition game as opposed to a league game. Fantastic.

by ChequeredJersey Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:21 pm

Gutted. Gave Gloucester 4 tries on a plate.

by stub Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:22 pm

39 each seems a fair result to me! 3 points each isn't a bad haul for either side.

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