NWQ v NIQ

Done these a few times before

(2010) http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A71759514
(2012) https://www.606v2.com/t36783-niq-v-nwq

NWQ 2015

1) Salesi Ma'afu / Dmitri Arhip
2) ????
3) Ma'afu Fia / Taufa'ao Filise
4) Jarrad Hoeata
5) Maselino Paulino
6) Manoa Vosawai
7) John Barclay
8) Joe Bearman
9) Brendon Leonard
10) Josh Matavesi
11) Michael Tagicakibau / Hanno Dirksen
12) Rey Lee-Lo
13) Regan King
14) D. T. H. van der Merwe
15) Carl Meyer


NIQ 2015

1) Wiehahn Herbst
2) Tom McCartney
3) BJ Botha
4) Franco van der Merwe
5) Mark Chisholm
6) Jake Heenan
7) Nepia Fox-Matamua
8) Nick Williams
9) Ruan Pienaar
10) Tyler Bleyendaal
11) Louis Ludik
12) Bundee Aki
13) Francis Saili
14) Zane Kirchner
15) Isa Nacewa

Feel free to pick them apart, not sure about which way round the Welsh props should go, NIQ Herbst would have to move to loose head

also feel free to compare them to the NIQ/NWQ 2010 and 2012 teams

NWQ:

1) Stankovich
2) Arhip
3) Salesi Ma'afu
4) Landman
5) Earle
6) Vosawai
7) Barclay
8) Ardron
9) Leonard
10) Collins
11) Dirksen
12) Matavesi
13) Parkes
14) DTH
15) Meyer

As for the NIQ:

1) Black
2) McCartney
3) Herbst
4) Triggs
5) Muldowney
6) Heenan
7) Fox-Matamua
8) Williams
9) Pienaar
10) Bleyendaal
11) Nacewa
12) Aki
13) Te'o
14) Poolman
15) Gonzalez Amorosino

Close one!

VinceWLB wrote:NWQ:

1) Stankovich
2) Arhip
3) Salesi Ma'afu
4) Landman
5) Earle
6) Vosawai
7) Barclay
8) Ardron
9) Leonard
10) Collins
11) Dirksen
12) Matavesi
13) Parkes
14) DTH
15) Meyer

As for the NIQ:

1) Black
2) McCartney
3) Herbst
4) Triggs
5) Muldowney
6) Heenan
7) Fox-Matamua
8) Williams
9) Pienaar
10) Bleyendaal
11) Nacewa
12) Aki
13) Te'o
14) Poolman
15) Gonzalez Amorosino

Close one!

NWQ Dirksen is WQ now, and Hassler at the Os is better anyhow

Forgot about Hassler! Very strong runner and a more complete player than Dirksen.

Muldowney and Black are Irish qualified.

Really? Thought they got capped by USA and Scotland A.

Van der Merwe to 2nd row and Sagario the Munster prop to LH then.

Black also qualifies to play for the USA, and Muldowney qualifies to play for any of England, Scotland and Ireland. Nothing on Wiki about Muldowney being capped for Scotland, but Black has played for Ireland under 18/19/21.

Someone should do a team of players qualified on residency, per country.

VinceWLB wrote:NWQ:
As for the NIQ:

1) Black
2) McCartney
3) Herbst
4) Triggs
5) Muldowney
6) Heenan
7) Fox-Matamua
8) Williams
9) Pienaar
10) Bleyendaal
11) Nacewa
12) Aki
13) Te'o
14) Poolman
15) Gonzalez Amorosino

Close one!

You'd really have Triggs and Muldowney ahead of Franco van der Merwe ahead of Mark Chisholm? can see you changed out Muldowney when you realised he is IQ, but Triggs ahead of Chisholm?

Te'o ahead of Saili?

anyway I've prob made same mistakes with the NWQ one.

But the NIQ team does appear to be of a much higher quality.

Connacht have a good number of players in now where in years past they only had one or two

This could cause some fun 'discussion'! Merry Christmas!

Interestingly that the 2010 NWQ team is a lot stronger than anything we can put out now, but how weak is that 2012 team???

Kingshu wrote:

You'd really have Triggs and Muldowney ahead of Franco van der Merwe ahead of Mark Chisholm? can see you changed out Muldowney when you realised he is IQ, but Triggs ahead of Chisholm?

Te'o ahead of Saili?

anyway I've prob made same mistakes with the NWQ one.

But the NIQ team does appear to be of a much higher quality.

Connacht have a good number of players in now where in years past they only had one or two

Did you watch Chisholm at the weekend, he was terrible against Leicester. Triggs is the kind of unspectacular player who does the basics very well and adds a lot of grunt, every team needs one of those.

Same for Saili, must say he has been a disappointment and Te'o has been very impressive any time he played with Leinster, adding some much needed go forward. Although i reckon we haven't seen the best of Saili yet.

I think this is very close on paper and the result would depend on how well each team is coached.

Sailli looked skilful, but overweight and unfit to me.

NWQ:

1) Stankovich
2) Arhip
3) Harris
4) Landman
5) Hoeata
6) Ardron
7) Barclay
8) Vosawai
9) Pretorious
10) Matavesi
11) Hasler
12) Parkes
13) Lee-Lo
14) DTH
15) Meyer

Pretty hot team, though probably not as strong as the NFQ from the Top 14... We don't have a hooker either so I've agreed with shifting Arhip there.

VinceWLB wrote:NWQ:

1) Stankovich
2) Arhip
3) Salesi Ma'afu
4) Landman
5) Earle
6) Vosawai
7) Barclay
8) Ardron
9) Leonard
10) Collins
11) Dirksen
12) Matavesi
13) Parkes
14) DTH
15) Meyer

As for the NIQ:

1) Black
2) McCartney
3) Herbst
4) Triggs
5) Muldowney
6) Heenan
7) Fox-Matamua
8) Williams
9) Pienaar
10) Bleyendaal
11) Nacewa
12) Aki
13) Te'o
14) Poolman
15) Gonzalez Amorosino

Close one!

Black is Irish qualified as is Muldowney

NFQ hmmm....

1. Nariashvili (Montpellier)
2. Bismarck Du Plessis (Montpellier)
3. Kepu (Bordeaux)
4. Charteris (Racing)
5. Manoa (Toulon)
6. Alberts (Stade)
7. Armitage (Toulon)
8. Vermuelen (Toulon)

9. Genoa (Stade)
10. Carter (Racing)
11. Habana (Toulon)
12. Nonu (Toulon)
13. Smith (Pau)
14. Strettle (Clermont)
15. Abendanon (Clermont)

Tried to get as many different clubs involved, but the current back rows and centres they all have is incredible. I wonder if we'll see it have a knock on effect on the French team.

Muldowny did get a late call up to Scotland A back when he was at Glasgow. Think he trained, got all the kit, either didn't make the game day squad or was not used.
Either way he is still IQ

Think Mikey's team is what I would pick. Good choice