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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 12 Jan 2016, 9:23 pm

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Olly wrote:Would very much appreciate it if Utd stopped being poo thanks

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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jan 2016, 3:46 pm

Typical United, just keeps the LVG ball rolling though, when in reality, their terrible & going nowhere fast. Would be another waste of a spot in Europe, if United got it. Much rather see a young, energetic Spurs side play in the elite competition.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 17 Jan 2016, 3:46 pm

PaulHv2 wrote:It's a rebound, hardly a world class finish is it? Sorry, but when you score a rebound there is a huge amount of luck in it.

Or do you think he meant to head it against the bar so it then fell for Rooney? picard

You make excuses if you want but your teams inability to defend set pieces is what undid you not luck.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 17 Jan 2016, 3:47 pm

Not really a fluke, good header by fellaini and Rooney reacted quickest
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Post by hampo17 Sun 17 Jan 2016, 3:47 pm

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PaulHv2 wrote:It's a rebound, hardly a world class finish is it? Sorry, but when you score a rebound there is a huge amount of luck in it.

Or do you think he meant to head it against the bar so it then fell for Rooney? picard

You make excuses if you want but your teams inability to defend set pieces is what undid you not luck.

You don't think there is luck in the ball hitting the bar and falling to Rooney? Really? 

Sorry forgot, it was a United goal. Any other team in the league scores that you're calling it lucky.

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Post by Hero Sun 17 Jan 2016, 3:47 pm

The fact that Rooney didn't have a player anywhere near him was frankly Sunday league level defending.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 17 Jan 2016, 3:48 pm

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 17 Jan 2016, 3:51 pm

PaulHv2 wrote:
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PaulHv2 wrote:It's a rebound, hardly a world class finish is it? Sorry, but when you score a rebound there is a huge amount of luck in it.

Or do you think he meant to head it against the bar so it then fell for Rooney? picard

You make excuses if you want but your teams inability to defend set pieces is what undid you not luck.

You don't think there is luck in the ball hitting the bar and falling to Rooney? Really? 

Sorry forgot, it was a United goal. Any other team in the league scores that you're calling it lucky.

Rooney reacted to it quickest simple as that but I forgot because it's the mighty Liverpool there must be some reason they conceded rather than admitting you cannot defend.

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Post by Ent Sun 17 Jan 2016, 3:51 pm

It's hardly a fluke if a player hits the bar from a corner and another scored the rebound.

Preventable yes, Flukey no.

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Post by Hero Sun 17 Jan 2016, 3:52 pm

Oh and add to my comment that 4, yes 4 Liverpool players tried to beat Fellaini to the header (and all failed), which then left Rooney in acres of space.
That is not 'luck', that is amateur defending.

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Post by hampo17 Sun 17 Jan 2016, 3:53 pm

Ent wrote:It's hardly a fluke if a player hits the bar from a corner and another scored the rebound.

Preventable yes, Flukey no.

Lucky? Extremely.

Unless you're name is Hammersmith Harrier Rolling Eyes

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 17 Jan 2016, 3:56 pm

I should go back in time and complain about Newcastle's lucky equalizer which of course it wasn't.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 17 Jan 2016, 3:58 pm

It's not a fluke when Utd do it.. Cool Rolling Eyes

Fairplay though its all about the score..

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Post by Ent Sun 17 Jan 2016, 3:59 pm

To be fair it took a huge deflection so it sort of was...

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 17 Jan 2016, 3:59 pm

Bitterness from Liverpool fans everywhere.

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Post by hampo17 Sun 17 Jan 2016, 3:59 pm

What ever mate, it was a lucky goal unless you're telling me it was planned by Fellani?

Can't win if you don't score, and we desperately need a good striker. Benteke is fecking awful, and I'd rather see young Sinclair given a go even if it's off the bench than that useless waste of space.

Sums up our last two years.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:02 pm

Drop the bitterness it doesn't suit you.

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Post by Hero Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:02 pm

A fluke is an improbable occurrence that is unlikely to occur again.

A ball hitting a crossbar for a striker to then react quickest to is not a 'fluke'.

Utd playing to attack v Newcastle though could possibly be defined as a fluke.

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Post by hampo17 Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:05 pm

Not bitter at all, like I said can't win if you don't score. Both teams were pretty average, and without De Gea it could have been a very different story.

Have to wonder if Madrid will come back in for him and actually get it completed this time, be very interesting for United if they do.

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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:07 pm

Two embarrassingly poor sides in world football, it's really not worth a lengthy debate about.

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Post by Hero Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:10 pm

LiamB wrote:Two embarrassingly poor sides in world football, it's really not worth a lengthy debate about.

You're always happy to chip in your tuppence about them though.

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Post by Crimey Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:10 pm

Yeah Liverpool were the better side, United the more clinical. Not sure you can make any judgements of Benteke from that game and at least he's been consistently scoring. Jerome Sinclair is certainly not the answer Paul, he's much, much worse than Benteke, the same faults without any of the positives.

I think Van Gaal will keep going so long as he keeps winning, but didn't look comfortable at any point. All the players looked terrified of going off-script, it was constant of sideways to sideways, backwards and backwards. Have to keep hold of De Gea, so whoever comes after Van Gaal has a foundation to work on.

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Post by hampo17 Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:11 pm

Hero wrote:
LiamB wrote:Two embarrassingly poor sides in world football, it's really not worth a lengthy debate about.

You're always happy to chip in your tuppence about them though.

Be fair hero, WBA can't be much to talk about can they.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:12 pm

Hero wrote:
LiamB wrote:Two embarrassingly poor sides in world football, it's really not worth a lengthy debate about.

You're always happy to chip in your tuppence about them though.

He talks more about other teams than he does his own side, thankfully the foe list means I only see his crap when he's quoted.

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Post by hampo17 Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:13 pm

Crimey wrote:Yeah Liverpool were the better side, United the more clinical. Not sure you can make any judgements of Benteke from that game and at least he's been consistently scoring. Jerome Sinclair is certainly not the answer Paul, he's much, much worse than Benteke, the same faults without any of the positives.

I think Van Gaal will keep going so long as he keeps winning, but didn't look comfortable at any point. All the players looked terrified of going off-script, it was constant of sideways to sideways, backwards and backwards. Have to keep hold of De Gea, so whoever comes after Van Gaal has a foundation to work on.


Not saying Sinclair is the answer buddy, just that I'd rather anybody but Benteke as he offers about as much as a fart in a wet suit.

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Post by Ent Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:14 pm

He's just a wum, ignore him.

Always good to get a win at anfield, happy to ignore the performance on a one off.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:19 pm

Liverpool paying the price for buying a bunch of mid table players - you become a mid table team.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:20 pm

Stoke fans booing Ramsey is the most stupid thing in this league year in year out
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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:21 pm

One off Laugh try 3 years mate

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:24 pm

The way the premier has gone this year...Liverpool go on a run they're back in the mix...

Certainly the Degea guy for Utd is worth his weight in gold..

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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:26 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:He talks more about other teams than he does his own side, thankfully the foe list means I only see his crap when he's quoted.

Yes, that's cos you are using the foe list, so you don't see my WBA posts. Doh

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:26 pm

Olly wrote:Stoke fans booing Ramsey is the most stupid thing in this league year in year out

I'm not surprised the way Wenger reacted afterwards.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:30 pm

Shame to be down to 6th, although with City up next and Aguero back to life I'm expecting a defeat and a tumble down a few spaces anyway. Does keep the cushion on Liverpool and if Arsenal can beat Stoke it will be an OK weekend to have lost.

Not sure a player hitting the bar against you and a follow up from the rebound is flukey or lucky though

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:45 pm

Olly wrote:Stoke fans booing Ramsey is the most stupid thing in this league year in year out

I agree it's stupid however I can kind of understand there reason.

Wenger and Arsenal fans reaction to Shawcross after the tackle was disgraceful, as if a fellow professional goes out to breaks someone's leg. It's stokes reaction to the whole fiasco.

The whole thing is daft.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 17 Jan 2016, 4:52 pm

I'd be pretty p1ssed if someone broke a Norwich players leg like that, no matter if he meant it or not - would hope my manager was too
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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 17 Jan 2016, 5:01 pm

Yeah you wouldn't be happy about it, but if the player is continually apologetic, visiting the player in hospital etc, one must accept these things can happen in football.

If the player acts a complete tw*t about it, having no remorse, then that's a different story

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 17 Jan 2016, 5:05 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:Yeah you wouldn't be happy about it, but if the player is continually apologetic, visiting the player in hospital etc, one must accept these things can happen in football.

If the player acts a complete tw*t about it, having no remorse, then that's a different story

Quite honestly I couldn't give a hoot if he said he was sorry - I'd still be p1ssed - those tackles aren't things to accept in football at all - kinda why they're met with red cards and 3 game bans.....
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 17 Jan 2016, 5:09 pm

The tackle wasn't at all bad which is why I found the reaction pathetic, as it was after the Taylor/Eduardo incident.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 17 Jan 2016, 5:17 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:The tackle wasn't at all bad which is why I found the reaction pathetic, as it was after the Taylor/Eduardo incident.

Indeed. Like I say if you play football, these things can happen, if it's a bad tackle, good strong tackle, even if you just fall down awkwardly.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 17 Jan 2016, 5:24 pm

With each passing week I become more convinced Butland should start ahead of Hart in the euros
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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 17 Jan 2016, 5:30 pm

What a save by Cech.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 17 Jan 2016, 5:36 pm

Olly wrote:With each passing week I become more convinced Butland should start ahead of Hart in the euros

His decision to turn down Chelsea for a better chance of regular football has been well and truly vindicated.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 17 Jan 2016, 5:40 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Olly wrote:With each passing week I become more convinced Butland should start ahead of Hart in the euros

His decision to turn down Chelsea for a better chance of regular football has been well and truly vindicated.

I have to admit I didn't buy the hype from the little I had seen of him before this season - but he's proven me 100% wrong. He's the real deal - by far the best keeper in the league this season imo. On top top form
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Post by Ent Sun 17 Jan 2016, 6:07 pm

Good point for arsenal that.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 17 Jan 2016, 6:10 pm

It's two points dropped in the title race for me.

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Post by sirfredperry Sun 17 Jan 2016, 6:23 pm

Can't help thinking the Premier League standard is very poor this season. Poor players plus poor tactics have added up to some utterly unmemorable matches. I know some are saying that it's close at the top due to a rise in standards all round. I would say that it's close as there has been no outstanding team.
  Too many sides confuse possession with penetration. Some of the football has been pedestrian in the extreme. Some teams think it's five-a-side and you're not allowed to kick a ball more than 10 yards.
  To think we were bemoaning route one soccer a while back.  Now everyone seems to want, crablike, to pass sideways and backwards.


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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jan 2016, 6:24 pm

Arsenal's main rivals are Man City. City won, Arsenal didn't, so to say that's a good point is incorrect. Stoke were off it today too there for the taking & didn't have Shaqiri either.

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Post by Ent Sun 17 Jan 2016, 6:53 pm

Stoke have beaten city, United and Chelsea at home.

Arsenal were missing ozil.

It's a good point, Stoke had chances to win it.

38 game season remember.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 17 Jan 2016, 6:58 pm

And also Arsenal's last two visits to Stoke have both resulted in losses.

It's a point gained.

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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jan 2016, 7:31 pm

It's two points lost to Man City. Delusional to think that was a good point, in the overall picture of the title race.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 17 Jan 2016, 8:05 pm

Rather simple to think that its a game by game.

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