Viktor Kolelishvili could be in big trouble

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I was at this game and I could not believe what I had just seen, fair play to Wayne Barnes, he just gave him a telling off, but that player has serious issues, how he stayed on the pitch throughout the game is beggars belief. On top of this push on Barnes he was giving late tackles out, putting his hands into AWJ's face after some off the ball argy bargy. Clermont took him off the field before he was sent off in the end, but I swear Viktor Kolelishvili could have taken Wayne Barnes's wife right there in front of him on Friday night and I doubt he would have sent him off.

Anyway, the authorities have taken over now;-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/european-rugby/12103067/Rugby-referee-Wayne-Barnes-shoved-by-player.html

TightHEAD wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:No tantrum from me, go and take you anti Welsh agenda elsewhere, I want to talk about players respecting the refs and the game on here, I do not want to argue with you about Welsh and English or any other nation for that matter.

What's anti welsh about highlighting a real problem in the Welsh game at the lower levels, if you are talking about showing the game respect then that is showing the opposition and fans no respect whatsoever, not even respect for yourself.

Please stop trolling.

No 7&1/2 wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:Clear link in that comment to this discussion. Drugs have no place in here when you appear to be trying to score cheap digs.

In your opinion!  

To me there is clearly no link between a pumped up player making a poor call to push a ref out of his way in the heat of the moment and play acting asking for cards etc.

So you think performance enhancing drugs in the lower levels of the game aren't a problem. Interesting!

You seem to have trouble reading. Leave out the nationality bull.

But there is no link between play acting, milking it and a guy pushing a ref out the way, did you get any sleep last night or are you feeling tired and confused?

LordDowlais wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:No tantrum from me, go and take you anti Welsh agenda elsewhere, I want to talk about players respecting the refs and the game on here, I do not want to argue with you about Welsh and English or any other nation for that matter.

What's anti welsh about highlighting a real problem in the Welsh game at the lower levels, if you are talking about showing the game respect then that is showing the opposition and fans no respect whatsoever, not even respect for yourself.

Please stop trolling.

Again.

What's anti welsh about highlighting a real problem in the Welsh game at the lower levels?

TightHEAD wrote:But there is no link between play acting, milking it and a guy pushing a ref out the way, did you get any sleep last night or are you feeling tired and confused?

Yes there is, it is all about the football like antics that are creeping into rugby and spoiling it, so please stop spoiling the debate.

LordDowlais wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:But there is no link between play acting, milking it and a guy pushing a ref out the way, did you get any sleep last night or are you feeling tired and confused?

Yes there is, it is all about the football like antics that are creeping into rugby and spoiling it, so please stop spoiling the debate.

That was always going to happen the moment the game turned Pro and ££££££££s took over, nothing has changed.

TightHEAD wrote:
What's anti welsh about highlighting a real problem in the Welsh game at the lower levels?

Because it has NOTHING to do with this topic. If you want to talk about that go and start another thread.

Well at least the wum has put me on LDs side of an argument for a change!

LordDowlais wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:
What's anti welsh about highlighting a real problem in the Welsh game at the lower levels?

Because it has NOTHING to do with this topic. If you want to talk about that go and start another thread.

Nore has play acting or milking it for cards!

The guy made a mistake, the Ref handled it well seeing as there was a communication problem that should have been the end of it, but 14 weeks is pathetic.

LordDowlais wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:But there is no link between play acting, milking it and a guy pushing a ref out the way, did you get any sleep last night or are you feeling tired and confused?

Yes there is, it is all about the football like antics that are creeping into rugby and spoiling it, so please stop spoiling the debate.

Are grabbing balls in a scrum or tackling the eye area football antics? Or does respect for the officials have nothing to do with the vast majority of rugby incidents? The football comparisons get tiresome.

https://www.606v2.com/t61724-interesting-welsh-rugby-does-not-have-its-own-drugs-problem-the-issue-lies-in-the-entire-country-s-steroid-addiction

Here is the thread about the Steroid issues in Wales as a country as whole, and not just as a rugby issue. Saves having to go down that route here.

No 7&1/2 wrote:Well at least the wum has put me on LDs side of an argument for a change!

Yeah well there is always that.

Anyway, back on topic, as I highlighted earlier with the Sexton occurrence before the thread was spoiled, we need to stamp out these petulant acts before they become the norm in our game.

Scottrf wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:But there is no link between play acting, milking it and a guy pushing a ref out the way, did you get any sleep last night or are you feeling tired and confused?

Yes there is, it is all about the football like antics that are creeping into rugby and spoiling it, so please stop spoiling the debate.

Are grabbing balls in a scrum or tackling the eye area football antics? Or does respect for the officials have nothing to do with the vast majority of rugby incidents? The football comparisons get tiresome.

Testicle grabs have famously happened in football (Mr Jones anyone), as have stamps on the testicles too (again Mr Jones).

ScarletSpiderman wrote:Testicle grabs have famously happened in football (Mr Jones anyone), as have stamps on the testicles too (again Mr Jones).  

That doesn't make them football incidents. They are isolated incidents. Streakers have happened in football, that's not a football incident.

LordDowlais wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:Well at least the wum has put me on LDs side of an argument for a change!

Yeah well there is always that.

Anyway, back on topic, as I highlighted earlier with the Sexton occurrence before the thread was spoiled, we need to stamp out these petulant acts before they become the norm in our game.

They have always been in the game, only difference is now people are more precious about it as they are easily offended in these PC times.

Scottrf wrote:

ScarletSpiderman wrote:Testicle grabs have famously happened in football (Mr Jones anyone), as have stamps on the testicles too (again Mr Jones).  

That doesn't make them football incidents. They are isolated incidents. Streakers have happened in football, that's not a football incident.

True. I doubt the nut grab is really likely to catch on in cricket or tennis though.

Oh, and I have seen streaker at lawn bowls, probably the funniest sporting moment I have seen.

Ok this is an old news clipping (May 2013), and things have changed however

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2404036/Montgomery-faces-ban.html wrote:Referee Nigel Owens confirmed the former Stormers Super 12 star was sent off for pushing a match official as the Newport players stood in the in-goal area following the concession of a try.

The International Rugby Board's regulations state that the suspension for 'physical abuse of a match official' ranges between two years and life, with a five-year ban the norm.

You know how to kill a debate Scarlet!

TightHEAD wrote:You know how to kill a debate Scarlet!  

Yeah it happens quite often at work, I walk into a room and everyone stops talking.

ScarletSpiderman wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:You know how to kill a debate Scarlet!  

Yeah it happens quite often at work, I walk into a room and everyone stops talking.

LordDowlais wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:No tantrum from me, go and take you anti Welsh agenda elsewhere, I want to talk about players respecting the refs and the game on here, I do not want to argue with you about Welsh and English or any other nation for that matter.

What's anti welsh about highlighting a real problem in the Welsh game at the lower levels, if you are talking about showing the game respect then that is showing the opposition and fans no respect whatsoever, not even respect for yourself.

Please stop trolling.

Stop with this "antiwelsh agenda" paranoid nonsense

In this case he definitely has a point.

No 7&1/2 wrote:In this case he definitely has a point.

In your dull opinion!

Just come across this Lordowlais.

In November 2015, UKAD figures revealed Welsh rugby players from both league and union codes made up 34 per cent of all sportsmen and women serving drugs bans in the United Kingdom.

Shocking its so high.

TightHEAD wrote:Just come across this Lordowlais.

In November 2015, UKAD figures revealed Welsh rugby players from both league and union codes made up 34 per cent of all sportsmen and women serving drugs bans in the United Kingdom.

Shocking its so high.

It's a social problem in Wales, not just a rugby one.

But Wales is rugby.

Maybe the pressures to get big to play warrenball in amateur teams is the cause of the problem.