Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread V

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 17 Jan 2016 - 19:24

First topic message reminder :

Time for Carolina to pull out some starters me thinks

by Number-25 Sun 18 Sep 2016 - 22:42

skins4ever wrote:I'll argue the positives of that game if I ever find any.

One thing I will say, I saw that flag on Norman for the hands to the face. he err brushed Bryant's facemask. How can you be so picky about that and not flag the blatant hits to the helmet Newton suffered last week? Seems we are in for another inconsistent season from the refs again.

Yeah, don't look too hard skins... there are no positives. Unless you regard Dustin Hopkins still being a good Kicker and Tress Way still being a good Punter as positives??

by skins4ever Mon 19 Sep 2016 - 0:20

GSC wrote:The NFL has always been reactionary on stuff like that. Hits to the head became a talking point so they cut it down.

But that's my point. There are helmet hits going on and NOT getting flagged when they should, and the give a ticky tacky call for brushing the facemask with your open hand? If you are going to call everything, and if you are going to allow judgement, try to be consistent. Seems too random still.

by Lowlandbrit Mon 19 Sep 2016 - 20:26

Browns are down another QB, Cody Kessler will be starting Sunday. Kind of want to see them start a different QB every game.

by skins4ever Tue 20 Sep 2016 - 0:46

Odds are the Browns lose another QB during their bye week...

by skins4ever Wed 21 Sep 2016 - 23:29

Josh Gordon's now had an arrest warrant issued against him for failure to take a court mandated paternity test. Are the Borwns cursed or something?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 22 Sep 2016 - 7:13

Yes

Corey Coleman broke his hand as well

by **Pr4wn** Thu 22 Sep 2016 - 17:02

Poor Browns fans. Honestly, that is such a brutal start to the season for them.

by skins4ever Thu 22 Sep 2016 - 18:48

Things can't be all that bad for them though - they haven't signed Mark Sanchez...

by **Pr4wn** Thu 22 Sep 2016 - 18:49

Yet.

They could pay us a king's ransom for Mike Glennon though, if they want.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 22 Sep 2016 - 23:00

Julian Edelman backup QB

What a time to be alive

by GSC Fri 23 Sep 2016 - 9:07

Who knew giving 72m to a QB who got benched for a QB who throws as hard as I do was a bad idea.

by **Pr4wn** Fri 23 Sep 2016 - 14:36

It seems everyone except the Texans knew that Osweiler wasn't that good.

by GSC Fri 23 Sep 2016 - 14:48

Wondered at the time, what made Brock Osweiler a major improvement over Brian Hoyer.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 23 Sep 2016 - 15:21

He isn't good, but he wasn't helped by the most conservative gameplan/play calling I've seen in a long time

It's the Patriots defence - not the 85 Bears Bill O'B

Those 3rd and 7/8 runs were abhorrent when you have Hopkins pretty much catching everything within a five mile radius of him

by **Pr4wn** Fri 23 Sep 2016 - 15:21

Just shows a total lack of faith in a QB that you just paid $72m.

by GSC Fri 23 Sep 2016 - 15:39

Yeah they ran it because they flat out didn't want to put the ball in his hands.

by **Pr4wn** Sun 25 Sep 2016 - 18:55

Anyone for the chat box?

by Lowlandbrit Sun 25 Sep 2016 - 19:46

Vikings have nothing but punting and defense and are only two down to the Panthers. This is all set to be the most 'what if?' season any team's ever had.

by crazy_dave23 Sun 25 Sep 2016 - 20:03

Seems like everyone is missing XPs today

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 25 Sep 2016 - 20:21

Minnesota's defence is really bloomin good

by Number-25 Sun 25 Sep 2016 - 20:23

Is there any actual point anymore to the NFL's instant replay system? It just seems to be a system these days that is used to confirm the ruling on the field even if that ruling is wrong.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 25 Sep 2016 - 21:09

Just end the Jaguars and Titans already

by Lowlandbrit Sun 25 Sep 2016 - 21:18

Dolphins heading to OT with the Browns.

by crazy_dave23 Sun 25 Sep 2016 - 21:18

The Browns may still be the Browns...

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 25 Sep 2016 - 21:20

Just end both the Dolphins and Browns for the good of football

by Number-25 Sun 25 Sep 2016 - 21:35

Well I'm very pleased with that one... not least because the Redskins season was on the line tonight but also cos the Giants player's have been running their mouths off about us for 2 weeks now and it's always extra satisfying to shut any team up when they've been doing that.... especially when means winning in NY.

Defense came up huge in that 4th quarter... although you always fancy your chances of INT or 2 when Eli is around.

by Lowlandbrit Sun 25 Sep 2016 - 21:53

Full list of coaches that were in charge for at least 40 games and have a worse win% than Gus Bradley: Steve Spagnuolo, Rod Marinelli, Bert Bell (Eagles 1936-41).

by skins4ever Sun 25 Sep 2016 - 22:34

Number-25 wrote:Is there any actual point anymore to the NFL's instant replay system? It just seems to be a system these days that is used to confirm the ruling on the field even if that ruling is wrong.

If you are talking about the incomplete pass in the EZ that should have been a pick, definitely. Can't see what angel they had that ruled him OOB, but ball never hit the ground so he definitely had possession. Be nice if they explained why it was confirmed instead of just leaving us bemused. Rolling Eyes

At least it was a win, and barring the last play of the 1st half (and frankly, I'd have kicked the FG there as the Giants were always going to blitz), Cousins seemed to be much more in synch. No INT's.

Bit of a bitch about Hall though and hope Breeland isn't hurt bad. Sad

On another note, do the entire Browns team have money on them going 0-16, or is this the result of RGIII walking into the locker room and them deciding they need to draft a QB next year?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 25 Sep 2016 - 23:00

Carson Wentz is really good

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 25 Sep 2016 - 23:02

Russell Wilson refusing to slide finally catching up with him

by GSC Mon 26 Sep 2016 - 0:05

Wilsons one of the best at protecting himself to be honest.

by skins4ever Mon 26 Sep 2016 - 1:02

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Carson Wentz is really good

He's good, but they are giving him a scheme that works well for his lack of playbook knowledge, and the Steelers secondary should have been shredded by now. Not knocking him, but wait until he comes up against a D like the Hawks or Broncos. Then we'll see if he's the real deal. He definitely worries me when the Skins play them. We've got injuries in the secondary like the Steelers and Barner could have a field day against our run D.

I'd also say the Eagles D is playing well which is probably helping keep the pressure down on the rookie. Right now they have to be favourites for the NFC East.

by GSC Mon 26 Sep 2016 - 8:03

He's using the whole playbook Sam Bradford would've been using...

Personally I won't buy in until he beats the 07 Patriots left handed.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 26 Sep 2016 - 8:45

What team doesn't have a scheme that doesn't suit their QB?

by GSC Mon 26 Sep 2016 - 8:59

I'm loving the goal post moving. The Steelers were supposed to be his welcome to the NFL moment.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 26 Sep 2016 - 10:53

He's got it all - cannon arm, but can also throw touch passes and anticipate throws. Making pre snap adjustments in and out of plays, and the thing I've been most impressed by is his pocket presence. He just looks so at home there.

Early days obviously but he looks the real deal. Obviously the browns passing on him means he's destined for greatness too

by JDizzle Mon 26 Sep 2016 - 19:15

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:What team doesn't have a scheme that doesn't suit their QB?

The Tennessee Titans.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 26 Sep 2016 - 19:17

JDizzle wrote:
Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:What team doesn't have a scheme that doesn't suit their QB?

The Tennessee Titans.

I kinda admire the Titans - for 58 minutes a week they stubbornly play against their strengths to see if they can pull it back in the final two minutes playing to their strengths.

Mike Mularkey a step ahead of the curve on this one imo

by TM Moot Mon 26 Sep 2016 - 19:45

Side issue, but what's happened to red button option to watch Red Zone on Sky Sports? Erm

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 26 Sep 2016 - 20:31

It's on that Sky Sports Mix channel instead now

by Number-25 Mon 26 Sep 2016 - 20:38

Wasn't there a guy called Foles had a great season in Philly once? What's he up to these days??

Great result for the Eagles last night... NFC East has been everyone's favourite division to bash for a few years now so it's nice to see one of the team's dish out a beating to one of the "big" teams.

by GSC Mon 26 Sep 2016 - 21:16

Clearly Doug Pederson's scheme is too hot for the league to handle.

by GSC Tue 27 Sep 2016 - 10:28

Thought it was time for the Saints to move on from Payton this offseason and start grooming a serious successor behind Brees. Mickey Loomis is lucky he's in big with the Owner as he's been consistently one of the worst GMs in the league.

The magics gone in NO. There's just an awful defense and a lot of empty yards left. The Superdome used to be a fortress, nobody is scared to go there anymore.

by GSC Wed 28 Sep 2016 - 13:01

Warning to Romo about the dangers of rushing back from a back injury

by skins4ever Wed 28 Sep 2016 - 18:18

I'd warn Romo not to return at all, but he'd ignore good advice. That ever elusive SB ring...

by skins4ever Wed 28 Sep 2016 - 18:20

Kiss of death stat:

Wentz joins Mark Sanchez as the only rookies in NFL history to start and win each of his team’s first 3 games of a season. The 2009 Jets went 9-7 and lost in AFC Championship Game.

by Number-25 Wed 28 Sep 2016 - 19:33

I'm looking forward already to Wentz's first butt-fumble...

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 28 Sep 2016 - 19:36

GSC wrote:Thought it was time for the Saints to move on from Payton this offseason and start grooming a serious successor behind Brees. Mickey Loomis is lucky he's in big with the Owner as he's been consistently one of the worst GMs in the league.

The magics gone in NO. There's just an awful defense and a lot of empty yards left. The Superdome used to be a fortress, nobody is scared to go there anymore.

The problem for the Saints is now the super dome is a hinderance. It's great for their offence to play there cos it makes them faster, but it makes opposing offences pretty much impossible to face.

Then when they go on the road their offence is crap cos they can't play outdoors, yet the defence plays better outdoors

End the franchise already

by crazy_dave23 Wed 28 Sep 2016 - 19:41

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
End the franchise already

Somewhat of a draconian approach...

by GSC Wed 28 Sep 2016 - 21:37

The defense doesn't play well anywhere. They have crap players.

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