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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:24 pm

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Time for Carolina to pull out some starters me thinks
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Post by GSC Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:10 am

Defence took a half to show up. Allowed 3 long drives in the first half, pitched a shutout after half until Mathews fumbled. Poor throw and read by Wentz on the pick, first time all year he's made a really bad read. Shame too because he was fantastic before that and should've iced the game on a 3rd down throw before Mathews fumbled.
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Post by Lowlandbrit Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:28 pm

Ravens have fired Marc Trestman as their OC. Marty Mornhinweg doesn't seem like a massive upgrade, but who knows.

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Post by skins4ever Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:56 pm

GSC wrote:Defence took a half to show up. Allowed 3 long drives in the first half, pitched a shutout after half until Mathews fumbled. Poor throw and read by Wentz on the pick, first time all year he's made a really bad read. Shame too because he was fantastic before that and should've iced the game on a 3rd down throw before Mathews fumbled.

Yeah, that pick cost me the win in the East this week. Plus not playing Tyrell Williams. That may have had something to do with it...

Eagles still look hot though, while it's a bit messy in the NFC East, at this point its hard to argue it's not a 3 horse race with the Cowboys and Skins. Right now I have to say Dallas will edge it, and I think the Skins will find the recovery to 3-2 is short lived, but it would be great to see 3 NFC teams make the playoffs again. Hasn't happened in a while. At least the Giants suck - I used to hate the Pokes more, but since sulky Manning won the SB again, they just get my back up.

Whoever does win the East will stand a good chance in the playoffs. The Packers are still a little erratic and while Atlanta and Minnesota are getting it done, I have a feeling they will falter when the playoffs roll around.

Anyone think that if Prescott keeps wining, they'll bench him for Romo? I think Romo may have taken his last snap as a Cowboy...

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Post by GSC Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:49 pm

Jerry says otherwise.

I'm not worried yet. Mildly irritated but not worried. If we lose to the Skins I will be worried, they've needed some breaks to get past 3 bad teams. Must have before we enter the hard stretch.

Gonna hold off on Dallas for now. The hype machine is going into overload.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:20 pm

The Prescott hype has gone overboard

Romo is clearly the better QB, and obviously should come in whenever fully healthy
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Post by GSC Tue Oct 11, 2016 4:22 pm

Greg Hardy is taking up MMA

I would pay good money to see him get knocked out.
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Post by crazy_dave23 Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:46 pm

Cleveland have cut Clipboard Jesus aka Charlie Whitehurst... looking good for 6 QBs in 6 games...

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Post by skins4ever Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:57 pm

crazy_dave23 wrote:Cleveland have cut Clipboard Jesus aka Charlie Whitehurst... looking good for 6 QBs in 6 games...

This a joke? Can't find that confirmed on NFL.com etc.

Edit: Found it - Terminated, Vested Veteran, Injury Settlement. Not aware he got injured Sunday?


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Post by GSC Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:59 pm

Mainly because McCowns getting back to full health.
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Post by skins4ever Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:12 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:The Prescott hype has gone overboard

Romo is clearly the better QB, and obviously should come in whenever fully healthy

Is he the better QB? Prescott's certainly not as fragile and turnover prone as Romo. Yes they have played some 'easy' teams (and the Skins should have won their game), but he hasn't made any glaring mistakes. IN football you play the hot hand. Mess with a winning chemistry and you're liable for the sack.

FWIW Brett Favre agrees.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:54 pm

Since when was not making glaring mistakes "the hot hand"? The winning chemistry at the moment is controlling the ball and clock on the ground, and not giving up explosive plays on their defence and basically winning fairly close games (and yes, they've had a ridiculously easy schedule so far too). Prescott obviously has potential, and is playing well - but he's nowhere near the level of a fit Tony Romo
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Post by Number-25 Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:54 pm

Been a while though since we've seen a fit Tony Romo... will he ever be fully fit again???

Even if he makes it back on the field he will always just be one decent hit away from another broken bone somewhere in his body.

I do agree though, if the 2016 post-umpteenth injury Romo is the same Romo as 6 or 7 years ago, then you play him once he's ready to take the field.

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Post by skins4ever Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:48 pm

Few ballers want to hang up their boots before they have to, but the toll on the body never goes away, it only gets worse. He is one critical injury away from forced retirement, and he must have that at the back of his mind after the last few seasons. Subconsciously he's going to start getting wary of hits and that's going to affect his play. Maybe he has a good season or two left in him, but are Dallas really going to be in a position to deliver the SB that's always eluded him?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:15 pm

Send like the Raiders are all but confirmed to be the Las Vegas Raiders soon
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Post by GSC Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:47 pm

I wouldn't start printing the t shirts just yet.

Mark still needs approval which is probably unlikely from his fellow owners.
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Post by Lowlandbrit Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:19 pm

How are the Panthers this bad?

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Post by Number-25 Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:20 pm

That Philadelphia are still in this game is a travesty.

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Post by skins4ever Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:50 pm

Number-25 wrote:That Philadelphia are still in this game is a travesty.

That's exactly how dumb plays can turn a game. Stupid PF on the celebration and dumb to throw off back foot in that situation. BUT the Skins O has otherwise played pretty damn good including Cousins, and it looks like the D has finally shown up. Let's see if we can shut down the Eagles run game, as the pass rush may cause Wentz to throw his first pick.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:17 pm

Blake Bortles stinks
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Post by Number-25 Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:36 pm

This Redskins/Eagles game hasn't even been close and yet somehow it's a one score ballgame in the 4th!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:38 pm

In the biggest shock of the season Vontaze Burfict is losing it as his team is losing - and is going knee hunting.

Suspend the punk
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Post by Number-25 Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:50 pm

Pittsburgh are just a completely different proposition without Big Ben.

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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:03 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Blake Bortles stinks

Thanks for the inspiraton heart Jacksonville

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:04 pm

crazy_dave23 wrote:
Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Blake Bortles stinks

Thanks for the inspiraton heart Jacksonville

He still stinks
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Post by Lowlandbrit Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:06 pm

Rams in 'about to be .500' shocker.

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Post by Number-25 Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:25 pm

So the Philadelphia hype train has ground to a halt.

They were rank tonight.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:53 pm

Lowlandbrit wrote:How are the Panthers this bad?

Who knew having literally no CB's worth mentioning, then cutting your only semi good one after one bad game would end up in your secondary being really really bad?
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Post by Number-25 Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:32 pm

So answer me this.... Alfred Morris is allowed to mimic swinging a baseball bat and hitting a home run after scoring a TD.... Blake Bortles is allowed to punt the ball into the stand after scoring a TD.... why then is Vernon Davis flagged for "excessive celebration" for mimicking a fadeaway jump shot after scoring a TD??

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:53 pm

Aaron Rodgers is a dumpster fire right now
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Post by Number-25 Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:50 am

Lowlandbrit wrote:How are the Panthers this bad?

They let Josh Norman go

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Post by skins4ever Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:19 am

Number-25 wrote:So answer me this.... Alfred Morris is allowed to mimic swinging a baseball bat and hitting a home run after scoring a TD.... Blake Bortles is allowed to punt the ball into the stand after scoring a TD.... why then is Vernon Davis flagged for "excessive celebration" for mimicking a fadeaway jump shot after scoring a TD??

Because he used the ball as a prop in the celebration. I'd argue Bortles should be penalised too, but Morris just did something that's no worse that an endzone dance. I miss the good old days where, aside from taunting, any old celebration was OK.

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Post by GSC Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:47 am

Defence has abandoned all discipline during the bye, clearly trying to kill the Schwartz HC hype train.

Offense is more what was expected. The WRs are awful, the RBs uninspiring and without Lane it's a sub par OL. Suspect the rest of the season will be praying Wentz doesn't take another shot to the ribs.
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Post by skins4ever Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:57 pm

To be fair, if there was a time you'd expect him to throw a pick it was under that pressure, but he made a few really good throws. I'd agree your WR's aren't that great, but protection like that they would have to be outstanding!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:31 pm

John Mara is a spineless fraud
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Post by GSC Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:35 pm

Fortunately Goodells in his pocket.

Scummy organisation in every sense. Coughlin can't stand them.
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Post by GSC Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:38 pm

He's basically admitted they knew he beat his wife and re signed him from FA anyway
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Post by GSC Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:43 pm

If Jared Goff isn't starting after the bye go ahead and chalk him up as a bust.

The Giants offense put up 3 points off their own backs today.
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Post by Lowlandbrit Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:16 pm

Loss number 160 for Jeff Fisher. Just 2 more to tie Tom Landry for second all time losingest NFL HC.

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Post by GSC Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:35 pm

Safe to say a game featuring crappy OLs and kickass DLs is following the script
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Post by Lowlandbrit Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:16 pm

crazy_dave23 wrote:Cleveland have cut Clipboard Jesus aka Charlie Whitehurst... looking good for 6 QBs in 6 games...
Kevin Hogan is playing, can't wait to see who they sign to come in when he gets hurt next week.

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Post by Number-25 Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:09 pm

So after weeks of overcoming mistakes and finding ways to win, the Redskins finally lose. Shoulda won it - dominated time of possession, first downs and total yards.... but fumbling at the goal line and then again in fieldgoal range was too much to overcome in the end. A team that still as flawed as the Redskins is going to be playing too many close games to be able to overcome these turnovers every week.


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Post by GSC Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:15 pm

Woop woop
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Post by GSC Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:47 pm

At what point does Jameis' propensity to give the ball away become a serious issue?
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:57 pm

Classic, classic Buffalo/Rex today. Textbook
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:07 pm

GSC wrote:At what point does Jameis' propensity to give the ball away become a serious issue?

Same with Mariota (who fumbles all the time). Both need to tighten up, but I wouldn't be hugely worried yet. If they're still doing it at a similar rate in years 3/4 then its a real problem
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:09 pm

First time I've watched NFL on Sky all year

WHO ON EARTH THOUGHT EMPLOYING DARA KENNEDY WAS A GOOD IDEA?!?!

She literally just said,

"The thing about Gronk is he likes to catch it and go down and get back up"

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:49 pm

Brandon Bolden seems intent on single handedly losing this game himself
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Post by skins4ever Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:51 am

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:First time I've watched NFL on Sky all year

WHO ON EARTH THOUGHT EMPLOYING DARA KENNEDY WAS A GOOD IDEA?!?!

She literally just said,

"The thing about Gronk is he likes to catch it and go down and get back up"


You have to admit she's better looking than Cadle though? Whistle

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Post by GSC Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:17 am

I stopped watching on Sky a while ago tbh, it's fine for new viewers but it soon becomes a bit shallow.

Beebs doing well this season, Osi added a lot to their coverage yesterday.
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Post by GSC Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:24 am

Are the 49ers worse than the Browns?
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