Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread V

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

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Time for Carolina to pull out some starters me thinks

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I suppose it means they've avoided the shutout...

Because 41-3 is so much better than 41-0

[Lowlandbrit]

I suppose it means they've avoided the shutout...

Because 41-3 is so much better than 41-0

And at 41-7 the comeback would have been on?

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Too early in my book to consider canning Bowles and Maccagnan but certainly time for a full rebuild in NY. The way they've played down the stretch doesn't reflect well on Bowles.

Rex has to go surely. All he offers is coaching defense and that ain't working.

Doug Martin a healthy scratch. Not the first paid based on a contract year regret.

[Lowlandbrit]

BROWNS WIN

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Fire Mike McCoy today

[Number-25]

Redskins heading for a win that will secure back to back winning seasons... I can't remember the last time we did that!.

First time since 1996-97 apparently.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Too early in my book to consider canning Bowles and Maccagnan but certainly time for a full rebuild in NY. The way they've played down the stretch doesn't reflect well on Bowles.

Rex has to go surely. All he offers is coaching defense and that ain't working.

Doug Martin a healthy scratch. Not the first paid based on a contract year regret.

I think Bowles has to go - they've been utterly humiliated numerous times now - at least Cleveland has played hard all year, the Jets haven't cared since mid October. They're hot garbage.

Also see we've reached the "Sean Payton soliciting himself to other teams" phase of the year

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The Jets roster stinks, Bowles did well a year ago.

Grigson and Pagano are the luckiest pair of clowns in the league. I include working for an addicted manchild in that.

[Number-25]

Bizarre story about the Vikings DBs ignoring Mike Zimmer's gameplan and doing their own thing.

That went well!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Now Derek Carr appears to have broke his leg too - brutal loss for Oakland.

Also - Jameis Winston is just an emotional Jay Cutler

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David Carr breaks his leg.

The Bucs hype train died as quickly as it formed.

[Guest]

Gutted for Carr. What a sickener.

[Number-25]

So on Monday I'm a Dallas fan... which feels odd.

Thanks to NO's win over TB tonight, a Dallas win against Detroit would mean the Redskins would advance to the playoffs with a win against the Giants next week.

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I'd genuinely rather watch McGloin or Cassel play in January over the Texans.

[crazy_dave23]

Sad for David Carr... three leg breaks, with 2 QBS, in one day is pretty bad going for the NFL

[Pr4wn]

Now Derek Carr appears to have broke his leg too - brutal loss for Oakland.

Also - Jameis Winston is just an emotional Jay Cutler

Behave. He's a second year guy with a sieve offensive line. Way too emotional, I agree, but give me a break with the Cutler bullcrap.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Now Derek Carr appears to have broke his leg too - brutal loss for Oakland.

Also - Jameis Winston is just an emotional Jay Cutler

Behave. He's a second year guy with a sieve offensive line. Way too emotional, I agree, but give me a break with the Cutler bullcrap.

He needs to learn to look after the ball and give up on plays. Like Cutler trusts his arm too much. Cutler didn't learn, I think Winston will because he seems more plugged in (first in, last out type of kid) but I'd be slightly concerned

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Watching Joe Flacco play physically hurts my eyes

[skins4ever]

Flacco is like Eli, but doesn't pout as much.

I can see the Bills keeping Ryan if they finish 8-8 but it's unlikely. Bowles could well be gone, and a bad roster doesn't rescue him - they couldn't find a decent QB in a field full of them. McCoy is out because of consistency, not ability. He'll get another gig soon. Possible surprise sacking could come from Cincy. Injuries hurt them but they hurt themselves more. I can see Fox being ousted, but he may well get one more season. 6 firings seems the consensus but I can see 8 or maybe even 10 going just as easily.

I can see 3-4 of those fired getting another HC gig straight away, but the rest are headed for position/coordinator roles. There are some good coordinator candidates ready to step up. I reckon McDaniels will get another shot but he needs a good D already in place. Can't see him going to the Bills so Rams, Jax or SD maybe? Todd Haley also seems a candidate if the Steelers are willing to let him go, now he's clicking with Big Ben.

[Number-25]

Thank you Dallas.

Now Gruden and Cousins need to make sure they don't lay another egg this weekend against NY.

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Doug Martin suspended 4 games.

Between that, injury and generally being cack, that contract is going well.

[Pr4wn]

I can't figure Martin out. When he's on form he's almost unstoppable, as illustrated by him leading the league in YAC last season. But his head clearly isn't in the right place. With regard to the contract, at least this suspension will give him time to get his head in the right place and it'll also void his guaranteed money for next season.

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He's been on form his rookie year and his contract year. That alone should be a red flag.

[Pr4wn]

Agreed. Running backs are easy to come by, don't think the contract was a good idea at all.

[Pr4wn]

Not much hanging on week 17 this season. Looks like it's going to be a bit of a boring one.

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2017 started quietly then, 49ers to clean house and Kubiak stepping down

[skins4ever]

Not much hanging on week 17 this season. Looks like it's going to be a bit of a boring one.

I don't know. Skins v Giants and Packers v Lions both have prime slots and a lot riding on the results (at least for 3 of the 4 teams). Atlanta and Seattle want 1st round byes so will be going for the win, though Seattle could have an easy game against lame duck Kelly. Pats, Chiefs, Raiders and Phins all jockeying for position too.

Kubiak is the one surprise if he does hang up the clipboard. I get eth health reasons but I'm not sure he'll stay retired long at 55, unless there's more to his health he isn't revealing.

[Lowlandbrit]

Kubiak is the one surprise if he does hang up the clipboard. I get eth health reasons but I'm not sure he'll stay retired long at 55, unless there's more to his health he isn't revealing.

I'd imagine we just won't see him as a HC anymore.

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Mike Gillislee with the play of the year

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Mike Gillislee with the play of the year

Week 17 is the greatest

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Indy celebrating a meaningless week 17 comeback against Jacksonville like they won the super bowl

RAISE A BANNER

[Lowlandbrit]

The Browns might be about to have a winning streak. The future is a strange place indeed.

[Lowlandbrit]

The Browns might be about to have a winning streak. The future is a strange place indeed.

Aaand it's gone. Although I suppose they won't mind having the #1 pick instead.

[Number-25]

Somewhat predictably, seeing as it's a big game, the Redskins are laying an egg so far.

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Gonna be a lot of superior teams watching Houston host a play-off game this year

[Number-25]

The Redskins defense is the perfect cure for any struggling offense.

[Number-25]

Nice to see Gruden is sticking to his "we have to run the ball matra".... first sign of trouble, the run has been abandoned entirely and Cousins is all pass happy.

[Number-25]

I can't watch this...

[Number-25]

I mean I hope they end up making me look silly and somehow pull this out of the fire in the 2nd half but this is truly diabolical from the Redskins

[Number-25]

It's really starting to look like we're going to get shutout in a game we must win to get in the playoffs.... will that ever have happened in the history of the NFL before? Playoff teams are generally good enough to avoid getting shutout. Are the Redskins about add yet another ignominious page to their recent laughing stock history???

[Number-25]

There's 3 points... woohoo....it's a long way to victory if we're relying on not allowing the Giants to score again and kicking another 3 FGs. Pathetic offense... starting in Giants territory and only 3 points.

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This is the kind of game your 100m QB should be putting the team on his back.

[Number-25]

LOL! Couldn't agree more GSC... I hope when Cousins' agent walks in for contract negotiations, Scott McCloughan has this game and the Carolina game primed and ready to show them.

[Number-25]

In fairness though, Garçon is money and of all our free agents this upcoming offseason, he's the one we need to keep. Great pro, great route runner, great hands, tough as nails.... gotta keep him.

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NFL currently trying to work out if it can schedule a McGloin Osweiller playoff game for 3am.

[Number-25]

Redskinsnow back in laying an egg mode.... 3 and out from the offense and the defense giving up big plays again.

[Number-25]

2.12 left... down by 3.... playoffs on the line... what you got Kirk??

I would imagine the next 2 minutes will frame Cousins' upcoming contract negotiations.

[Number-25]

Cousins INT.... that's the contract up in smoke. If he gets one at all now then he better lower those demands by at least 5m a year. When we've needed him most this season, he's disappeared.

Can't wait for the post match presser.

[Number-25]

It's not like we were going to win the Superbowl anyway so this ending is prob the most fun thing that could have happened... what on earth do they do in the offseason with Cousins now??? How on earth can his agent come in demanding 20m+ now??? If he's lucky, he gets the franchise tag.... it's not ridiculous to think now that the Redskins let him walk.

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God I can't wait to see his deal

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