US presidential elections

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Morning all,

So after the win in Iowa for Ted Cruz last night where do we see this going?

I'm thinking Clinton v Rubio. Lots of twists and turns still to come though.

Hero wrote:He built a great train infrastructure into Poland as well, does Trump plan the same for Mexico?

Quite.

Moving on...

Ben Carson and Chris Christie have chucked their lot in with Trump......Plenty riding on the next few weeks for them....

Surprised at the Carson endorsement....After all Trump is supposed to be racist..

Christie is looking at the Attorney General slot I expect and Carson the Surgeon general slot.......They are obviously embarrassing themselves for some promise...

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Ben Carson and Chris Christie have chucked their lot in with Trump

I think Carson has literally said he wanted to endorse someone else, but they didn't offer him anything. As for Christie; that is the most abusive political relationship I've ever seen. I think Trump might actually be running his campaign on Christie's lunch money at this point.

Exit polling in Florida....Big number of voters with college degrees have voted in the GOP election in Florida..

Bad sign for Trump......He does better with the lesser educated..

Could be an upset..

HisTrumpness is going to stroll it in Florida.

Donald Trump may have written about the art of the deal but he still hasn't sealed it yet...

Good night for him but Cruz came worryingly close in NC, Illinois... and Missouri are still unsure....

Big win in Florida countered by Ohio.........Kasich won easy..

If Cruz can pick up some of Rubio's support then it's game on.....How he'd love Kasich to leave the race too !!..

Brokered convention for sure..

Bad night for Bernie lost all the States but came painfully close to winning two....

He'll carry on but all is lost...If he was ever in the game..

With under 30s Bernie is running away with it.......Hillary take note when considering the VP slot !!

Trump takes Florida by a landslide.  Rubio quits.

Clinton also clears house.

Hilarious reading some of the guff on here from people who think they know anything about the States (still) and keep calling it hopelessly wrong.

Along with some of the other hilarity this is genuinely one of the funniest threads left on OT.

Lowlandbrit wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Ben Carson and Chris Christie have chucked their lot in with Trump

I think Carson has literally said he wanted to endorse someone else, but they didn't offer him anything. As for Christie; that is the most abusive political relationship I've ever seen. I think Trump might actually be running his campaign on Christie's lunch money at this point.

Best ignore our pitiful troll.............

Carson is a strange one he seems to change his mind daily.......Says things any sensible politician would never say......

Completely unsuitable to the political game.....How he expected people to vote him in as President heaven only knows..

Christie throwing all of his weight behind Trump.

Duty281 wrote:HisTrumpness is going to stroll it in Florida.

You called it..........How it went wrong for Rubio in his home state one can only summise.......Guess being a first term Senator the electorate probably felt he needed to earn the right to become the GOP nominee......Missing votes in the senate and Christie's bodyslam in the NH debate probably didn't help either..

Pr4wn wrote:Christie throwing all of his weight behind Trump.

Plenty of it too !!

Christie has gone all in.......His career is shot if Trump doesn't win.....Shot his bolt in New Jersey..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

Lowlandbrit wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Ben Carson and Chris Christie have chucked their lot in with Trump

I think Carson has literally said he wanted to endorse someone else, but they didn't offer him anything. As for Christie; that is the most abusive political relationship I've ever seen. I think Trump might actually be running his campaign on Christie's lunch money at this point.

Best ignore our pitiful troll.............

Carson is a strange one he seems to change his mind daily.......Says things any sensible politician would never say......

Completely unsuitable to the political game.....How he expected people to vote him in as President heaven only knows..

Yep. I would think Trump is in two minds about having the only candidate more daft that him offering to endorse him.

You don't have much to offer this thread....Maybe you should let those that do get on with it.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You don't have much to offer this thread....Maybe you should let those that do get on with it.

Ah. The usual tiresome 'put down'. I'll offer what I please thank-you very much. Like it or lump it I'm afraid.

Make your little drive by pops..and then leave the rest of us to debate..

Cheers..

Come on ladies, handbags away please.

navyblueshorts wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You don't have much to offer this thread....Maybe you should let those that do get on with it.

Ah. The usual tiresome 'put down'. I'll offer what I please thank-you very much. Like it or lump it I'm afraid.

You should know by now it's actually a massive compliment, Navy. Means you've won the argument.

Not the resident troll...I'll need to use spurs ..

Alistair wrote:

Pr4wn wrote:Also, Bloomberg is a non-starter. Sanders would make mincemeat out of him in any debate.

Mind you, if there's one thing this election needs it's another billionaire. It takes a billionaire to know what America needs.

It's more about what Bloomberg's presence would do to Hillary's chances.

Bloomberg is out...Now Hillary has it done...No need for old moneybags...

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Make your little drive by pops..and then leave the rest of us to debate..

Cheers..

Annnddd again. Yawn. Typical act of someone who doesn't like challenge to his comments. Shame, as otherwise you post some interesting stuff. Still, we all have our flaws.

Moving on..

Trump 646
Cruz     397
Kasich 142

Can't see Trump getting over the line...1237

A lot of winner take all States left though..

Kasich wins Ohio, Trump wins Florida. It's jot a lock but now very much touch and go. Trying to look at map, I "think" Trump needs to run the table on the WTA states to get there.

Moving on to the 22nd we have Arizona (58 WTA) and Utah (40 Proportional, but WTA if winner has a majority). I think Cruz wins Utah (he does well in Mormon states or rather Trump doesnt) and I think Arizona goes Trump (anti immigration vote). But it's much easier to tactical vote now and I don't think Kasich is campaigning there. Cruz could sneak it. Remember Trump hasn't won a majority of votes in any state, not helped by the crowded field.

I see merit in backing Cruz in red states and Kasich in blue/purple states to lock Trump out. Either way if Trump locks it up it won't be to the June 7 primaries.

Is Donald Trump just politicking when he makes some of his more outlandish statements?  No one gave him a chance when he started out and now he is the leading "republican".  Some claim he is more liberal than republican and just throws out a few extreme seeming statements to persuade people he is more republican than democrat and to tap into the general disenchantment many have with Washington.  People that know him personally say he is a lot more liberal in his views, is generally a nice guy, that works hard and likes to sweet talk people onto his side.  Trump the showman.  I think he is going to have to soften his approach at some point.  Cruz is supposed to be more extreme than Trump, and Rubio in his bowing out speech talked about "gods plan".

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Like I said he dropped the unemployment rate from 6 million to 350,000...built a tremendous transport network and built more hospitals......

All factually correct......

Id look at how he did that. It wasnt a way you run a country.

Pretty sure Chairman Mao achieved something equally impressive......

Stalin was pretty good at getting unemployment down as well, brought in pre-natal care, industrialized many towns & cities and pushed through a lot of changes for equality of the sexes.
Just also butchered 43 million of his own people in the process but progress hey!

So basically, people Truss is a fan/supporter of:

Donald Trump
Adolf Hitler
Chairman Mao
Ali/Clay
Floyd Mayweather
Joseph Stalin

They all achieved 'great things' after all......

I know America has had some nutty candidates before but right now just takes the biscuit. In NI we have some real clowns (my local councillor said you could catch homosexuality) but this is like Willie Frazer becoming First Minister.

I mean catch in that you could get easily hooked. And yet he's a councillor with 30 years plus service. And not the only DUP to think that. It can be like the Deep South only cooler, so it can.

TopHat24/7 wrote:So basically, people Truss is a fan/supporter of:

Donald Trump
Adolf Hitler
Chairman Mao
Ali/Clay
Floyd Mayweather
Joseph Stalin

They all achieved 'great things' after all......

And Lance. Don't forget Lance.

Dave. wrote:I know America has had some nutty candidates before but right now just takes the biscuit. In NI we have some real clowns (my local councillor said you could catch homosexuality) but this is like Willie Frazer becoming First Minister.

Interesting post....

Of course gay rights and abortion are huge issues in both Ireland and the US....Irish American is the second most common ancestry in the US.....(I'm third generation.....German is the most common ancestry)....The most concentrated Irish population is from Boston where I'm from...20%...New York is second....which is no surprise.....As most of the Irish settlers docked at New York.....

My Great Grandfather came over from Queenstown in 1880's because there was no work......We think it was on a boat called the Arizona....But he's no longer around to ask him   .......Hearing stories about him I'm surprised he wasn't on the Titanic..

I've digressed...

You can't run for the GOP unless you're strictly anti-gay and anti abortion....I see Trump has come full circle now he's a republican..

Seven times more people with Irish heritage in the USA than in Ireland itself.....

Myself I happen to be pro gay rights and pro abortion.....

Forget your local councillor...When you have churches full of people trying to pray away the gay then you should start worrying.....

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-arizona-idUSKCN0WL0SD

Ah, the haters of free speech carry on.

Keep it up folks, Trump loves the attention!

Duty281 wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-arizona-idUSKCN0WL0SD

Ah, the haters of free speech carry on.

Keep it up folks, Trump loves the attention!

Certainly got that bit right.

Duty281 wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-arizona-idUSKCN0WL0SD

Ah, the haters of free speech carry on.

Keep it up folks, Trump loves the attention!

He is fairly hard headed but thats what is neded to take on the propagandists AKA the media. They're getting more desperate by the minute. The big news the other week was that David Duke told his followers to vote for Trump. Duke being a former KKK man (4 decades ago) got the media all excited because they could link Trump with the KKK. Its gone that bonkers!


Duke has responded with youtube video and said, even though he was all over the news, none of them asked him for an interview! You'd think they're all being controlled and have the same agenda.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

Dave. wrote:I know America has had some nutty candidates before but right now just takes the biscuit. In NI we have some real clowns (my local councillor said you could catch homosexuality) but this is like Willie Frazer becoming First Minister.

Interesting post....

Of course gay rights and abortion are huge issues in both Ireland and the US....Irish American is the second most common ancestry in the US.....(I'm third generation.....German is the most common ancestry)....The most concentrated Irish population is from Boston where I'm from...20%...New York is second....which is no surprise.....As most of the Irish settlers docked at New York.....

My Great Grandfather came over from Queenstown in 1880's because there was no work......We think it was on a boat called the Arizona....But he's no longer around to ask him   .......Hearing stories about him I'm surprised he wasn't on the Titanic..

I've digressed...

You can't run for the GOP unless you're strictly anti-gay and anti abortion....I see Trump has come full circle now he's a republican..

Seven times more people with Irish heritage in the USA than in Ireland itself.....

Myself I happen to be pro gay rights and pro abortion.....

Forget your local councillor...When you have churches full of people trying to pray away the gay then you should start worrying.....

Them Oirish be breedin' like rabbits, so they are...

(Well, the anti-contraception Catholics, anyway...)

profitius wrote:

Duty281 wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-arizona-idUSKCN0WL0SD

Ah, the haters of free speech carry on.

Keep it up folks, Trump loves the attention!

He is fairly hard headed but thats what is neded to take on the propagandists AKA the media. They're getting more desperate by the minute. The big news the other week was that David Duke told his followers to vote for Trump. Duke being a former KKK man (4 decades ago) got the media all excited because they could link Trump with the KKK. Its gone that bonkers!


Duke has responded with youtube video and said, even though he was all over the news, none of them asked him for an interview! You'd think they're all being controlled and have the same agenda.

Not to make too fine a point of it but the issue was that Trump wouldn't denounce Duke's supporters OR the KKK and instead feigned ignorance.

kingraf wrote:

profitius wrote:

Duty281 wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-arizona-idUSKCN0WL0SD

Ah, the haters of free speech carry on.

Keep it up folks, Trump loves the attention!

He is fairly hard headed but thats what is neded to take on the propagandists AKA the media. They're getting more desperate by the minute. The big news the other week was that David Duke told his followers to vote for Trump. Duke being a former KKK man (4 decades ago) got the media all excited because they could link Trump with the KKK. Its gone that bonkers!


Duke has responded with youtube video and said, even though he was all over the news, none of them asked him for an interview! You'd think they're all being controlled and have the same agenda.

Not to make too fine a point of it but the issue was that Trump wouldn't denounce Duke's supporters OR the KKK and instead feigned ignorance.

And whats wrong with that?

profitius wrote:

kingraf wrote:

profitius wrote:

Duty281 wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-arizona-idUSKCN0WL0SD

Ah, the haters of free speech carry on.

Keep it up folks, Trump loves the attention!

He is fairly hard headed but thats what is neded to take on the propagandists AKA the media. They're getting more desperate by the minute. The big news the other week was that David Duke told his followers to vote for Trump. Duke being a former KKK man (4 decades ago) got the media all excited because they could link Trump with the KKK. Its gone that bonkers!


Duke has responded with youtube video and said, even though he was all over the news, none of them asked him for an interview! You'd think they're all being controlled and have the same agenda.

Not to make too fine a point of it but the issue was that Trump wouldn't denounce Duke's supporters OR the KKK and instead feigned ignorance.

And whats wrong with that?

Which part? Not denouncing white supremacists or pretending you don't know who they are?

kingraf wrote:

profitius wrote:

kingraf wrote:

profitius wrote:

Duty281 wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-arizona-idUSKCN0WL0SD

Ah, the haters of free speech carry on.

Keep it up folks, Trump loves the attention!

He is fairly hard headed but thats what is neded to take on the propagandists AKA the media. They're getting more desperate by the minute. The big news the other week was that David Duke told his followers to vote for Trump. Duke being a former KKK man (4 decades ago) got the media all excited because they could link Trump with the KKK. Its gone that bonkers!


Duke has responded with youtube video and said, even though he was all over the news, none of them asked him for an interview! You'd think they're all being controlled and have the same agenda.

Not to make too fine a point of it but the issue was that Trump wouldn't denounce Duke's supporters OR the KKK and instead feigned ignorance.

And whats wrong with that?

Which part? Not denouncing white supremacists or pretending you don't know who they are?

Since when is David Duke a white supremacist?

profitius wrote:

kingraf wrote:

profitius wrote:

kingraf wrote:

profitius wrote:

Duty281 wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-arizona-idUSKCN0WL0SD

Ah, the haters of free speech carry on.

Keep it up folks, Trump loves the attention!

He is fairly hard headed but thats what is neded to take on the propagandists AKA the media. They're getting more desperate by the minute. The big news the other week was that David Duke told his followers to vote for Trump. Duke being a former KKK man (4 decades ago) got the media all excited because they could link Trump with the KKK. Its gone that bonkers!


Duke has responded with youtube video and said, even though he was all over the news, none of them asked him for an interview! You'd think they're all being controlled and have the same agenda.

Not to make too fine a point of it but the issue was that Trump wouldn't denounce Duke's supporters OR the KKK and instead feigned ignorance.

And whats wrong with that?

Which part? Not denouncing white supremacists or pretending you don't know who they are?

Since when is David Duke a white supremacist?

Since when is Nick Griffin one?

ShahenshahG wrote:

profitius wrote:

kingraf wrote:

profitius wrote:

kingraf wrote:

profitius wrote:

Duty281 wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-arizona-idUSKCN0WL0SD

Ah, the haters of free speech carry on.

Keep it up folks, Trump loves the attention!

He is fairly hard headed but thats what is neded to take on the propagandists AKA the media. They're getting more desperate by the minute. The big news the other week was that David Duke told his followers to vote for Trump. Duke being a former KKK man (4 decades ago) got the media all excited because they could link Trump with the KKK. Its gone that bonkers!


Duke has responded with youtube video and said, even though he was all over the news, none of them asked him for an interview! You'd think they're all being controlled and have the same agenda.

Not to make too fine a point of it but the issue was that Trump wouldn't denounce Duke's supporters OR the KKK and instead feigned ignorance.

And whats wrong with that?

Which part? Not denouncing white supremacists or pretending you don't know who they are?

Since when is David Duke a white supremacist?

Since when is Nick Griffin one?

I don't know about Nick Griffin but Duke is not a white supremacist. You're being brainwashed by the media.

I don't know about David Duke, but Nick Griffin isn't a white supremacist. An extreme nationalist, yes, but not an advocate of white supremacy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04QolIvfQEw&bpctr=1458989476

So it looks like one of three for the next US President.
Ted Cruz or Donald Trump
Hilary Clinton.

profitius wrote:

kingraf wrote:

profitius wrote:

kingraf wrote:

profitius wrote:

Duty281 wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-arizona-idUSKCN0WL0SD

Ah, the haters of free speech carry on.

Keep it up folks, Trump loves the attention!

He is fairly hard headed but thats what is neded to take on the propagandists AKA the media. They're getting more desperate by the minute. The big news the other week was that David Duke told his followers to vote for Trump. Duke being a former KKK man (4 decades ago) got the media all excited because they could link Trump with the KKK. Its gone that bonkers!


Duke has responded with youtube video and said, even though he was all over the news, none of them asked him for an interview! You'd think they're all being controlled and have the same agenda.

Not to make too fine a point of it but the issue was that Trump wouldn't denounce Duke's supporters OR the KKK and instead feigned ignorance.

And whats wrong with that?

Which part? Not denouncing white supremacists or pretending you don't know who they are?

Since when is David Duke a white supremacist?

I wad actually talking about the KKK but a person who wants separatism and opened a branch of the KKK is generally a white supremacist.

kingraf wrote:

profitius wrote:

kingraf wrote:

profitius wrote:

kingraf wrote:

profitius wrote:

Duty281 wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-arizona-idUSKCN0WL0SD

Ah, the haters of free speech carry on.

Keep it up folks, Trump loves the attention!

He is fairly hard headed but thats what is neded to take on the propagandists AKA the media. They're getting more desperate by the minute. The big news the other week was that David Duke told his followers to vote for Trump. Duke being a former KKK man (4 decades ago) got the media all excited because they could link Trump with the KKK. Its gone that bonkers!


Duke has responded with youtube video and said, even though he was all over the news, none of them asked him for an interview! You'd think they're all being controlled and have the same agenda.

Not to make too fine a point of it but the issue was that Trump wouldn't denounce Duke's supporters OR the KKK and instead feigned ignorance.

And whats wrong with that?

Which part? Not denouncing white supremacists or pretending you don't know who they are?

Since when is David Duke a white supremacist?

I wad actually talking about the KKK but a person who wants separatism and opened a branch of the KKK is generally a white supremacist.

Stop brainwashing him you media stooge

kingraf wrote:

profitius wrote:

Since when is David Duke a white supremacist?

I wad actually talking about the KKK but a person who wants separatism and opened a branch of the KKK is generally a white supremacist.

No a person who wants separatism for whites is..... a white separatist.


Look up the definitions of supremacism and separatism. You'll find they're actually different words.


Heres the man explaining it himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9gsMpDE3zU

ShahenshahG wrote:
Stop brainwashing him you media stooge

The irony.

profitius wrote:

kingraf wrote:

profitius wrote:

Since when is David Duke a white supremacist?

I wad actually talking about the KKK but a person who wants separatism and opened a branch of the KKK is generally a white supremacist.

No a person who wants separatism for whites is..... a white separatist.


Look up the definitions of supremacism and separatism. You'll find they're actually different words.


Heres the man explaining it himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9gsMpDE3zU

Oh well if he says he isn't then he mustn't be, case closed.
He refers to himself as a 'racial realist' (waiting for the day certain right wingers on here term themselves that), former Grand Wizard of the KKK, a felon who used donations to gamble with, thinks Jewish Supremists promote homosexuality, and is a holocaust denier amongst many other things.
I think his title should be 'Grade A Cockwomble'.