US presidential elections

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Morning all,

So after the win in Iowa for Ted Cruz last night where do we see this going?

I'm thinking Clinton v Rubio. Lots of twists and turns still to come though.

Dodgy deals....Whitewater...

Lies...Monica Lewisky....

Blackmail.... Bill Clinton's various bit on the sides..threatened if they came forward during their various runs..

All in the various documentaries...you can find on the net..

I suggest you watch some.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Dodgy deals....Whitewater...

Lies...Monica Lewisky....

Blackmail.... Bill Clinton's various bit on the sides..threatened if they came forward during their various runs..

All in the various documentaries...you can find on the net..

I suggest you watch some.

Ah. Obviously the truth and nothing but the truth then.

Pr4wn wrote:Truss you're hilarious sometimes. How is Bernie a loon?

Hillary has shown herself to be a duplicitous, untrustworthy turncoat who just says whatever she has to. Nobody truly knows what she believes.

She says she's anti-Wall Street but then takes over $3m as a "speaking fee" from Goldman Sachs.

Sanders, on the other hand, has an impeccable voting record, has never changed his stance on the important issues and, quite honestly, seems to be the only genuine person in this entire shower of candidates.

Yes, his ideas are different, but isn't that what America needs right now? All of the candidates bang on about the economy. What does is matter that the economy is growing when wages for the average American haven't risen since the 80s and have fallen in real terms? Executive pay has rocketed since then and ordinary, gullible Americans are far worse off now than they have been for decades.

But the economy is growing, so everything is alright.

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Bern sounds a lot like Corbs, that's working really well, isn't it......??!

navyblueshorts wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Dodgy deals....Whitewater...

Lies...Monica Lewisky....

Blackmail.... Bill Clinton's various bit on the sides..threatened if they came forward during their various runs..

All in the various documentaries...you can find on the net..

I suggest you watch some.

Ah. Obviously the truth and nothing but the truth then.

You're deriding Duty on another thread...

Physician heal thyself..

New Hampshire is made for Bernie......Plus anti-establishment is in vogue...Look at Trump.....

They have a record of going for the outsider..always have.

Hillary plays well with minorities.......Plentiful in supply elsewhere..

Look at the demography in the big States.........It all suits Hillary....and States like Florida are winner takes all..

I'm prepared to debate US politics with you guys....But unlettered, unsubstantive pops makes it hard work..

South Carolina....next..

RCP poll - Clinton 62.......Sanders 32...

All about demographics...

Christie and Fiorina gone, no real suprises.

Fiorina may be a vice president choice........Woman on the ticket to negate old Hill..

For who though? Can't see her working with Trump.

Trump will pick Rubio..............Young, fresh and a "moderate...."

He'll paint Hill as the establishment candidate owned by Wall street..

Getting a bit spicy the Sanders/Clinton fight..

Last night old Bernie told her to stop treating the American public as if they were dumb...

He didn't do enough to win though.....and he needs to win these debates..

Shame she's played the Obama card, desperation tactics as she knew Bernie was closing.

Obama will play in S Carolina...Mainly blacks that vote there...

But most Americans view him as a wind and p**s fulltime golfer ..part time President..

Half the reason why anti-establishment is in vogue..

They are sick of bullcrappers like him..

His approval rating is very poor.

Clinton should comfortably take Nevada, and South Carolina should look more or less like New Hampshire in reverse. But it seems the Clinton campaign is trying to downplay expectations in Nevada, so either they think they need to make a normal win look special, or they think they're doing worse than they have any right to.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

navyblueshorts wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Dodgy deals....Whitewater...

Lies...Monica Lewisky....

Blackmail.... Bill Clinton's various bit on the sides..threatened if they came forward during their various runs..

All in the various documentaries...you can find on the net..

I suggest you watch some.

Ah. Obviously the truth and nothing but the truth then.

You're deriding Duty on another thread...

Physician heal thyself..

Alas, I'm not a physician. My point, just to be clear, before was that just because there's a YouTube (or somewhere else on the Interweb) "documentary" making a claim, doesn't make it so. Is that a bit better?

You write stuff without knowing anything on the history of the candidates or where their policy positions are..

Makes any debate a waste of time..

White water...Monica Lewinsky......Kathleen Willey.....

Look them up....Or even better don't...

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You write stuff without knowing anything on the history of the candidates or where their policy positions are..

Makes any debate a waste of time..

White water...Monica Lewinsky......Kathleen Willey.....

Look them up....Or even better don't...

Ah. The usual. "Any debate with you is a waste of time". I couldn't give a XXXX what their positions are here. FFS, an internet 'documentary' is not, a priori evidence that something is true. That was my point, but you go ahead and make it whatever you like if it makes you happy.

Save it for Duty..

See the DNC are shafting Bernie...Obama after he beat Clinton put a ban on  the amount Wall Street lobbyists could give a democratic candidate so as not to look like they were in hoc to them..

Sanders has raised plenty of cash lately so the DNC lifted the ban..

Told you Sanders won't get a fair fight with Clinton....She has too many friends including the useless President. .

navyblueshorts wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You write stuff without knowing anything on the history of the candidates or where their policy positions are..

Makes any debate a waste of time..

White water...Monica Lewinsky......Kathleen Willey.....

Look them up....Or even better don't...

Ah. The usual. "Any debate with you is a waste of time". I couldn't give a XXXX what their positions are here. FFS, an internet 'documentary' is not, a priori evidence that something is true. That was my point, but you go ahead and make it whatever you like if it makes you happy.

It's terrible what Truss wrote, isn't it? Almost like debating with yourself.

Wow the latest GOP debate was a free for all..

Can't believe Trump gets away with his behaviour.

Makes them all look like walking jokes.

All over in two weeks with super Tuesday. .Not enough time for Bernie to cut into Hillary's popularity with minority groups..Game over.

May be time to stop Trump though.

Looking good for Saturday.

Spoiler:

Duty281 wrote:

navyblueshorts wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You write stuff without knowing anything on the history of the candidates or where their policy positions are..

Makes any debate a waste of time..

White water...Monica Lewinsky......Kathleen Willey.....

Look them up....Or even better don't...

Ah. The usual. "Any debate with you is a waste of time". I couldn't give a XXXX what their positions are here. FFS, an internet 'documentary' is not, a priori evidence that something is true. That was my point, but you go ahead and make it whatever you like if it makes you happy.

It's terrible what Truss wrote, isn't it? Almost like debating with yourself.

I see Sanders is getting draft dodger chucked at him...

The caucus in NV is his last chance to make an impression before Super Tuesday as SC is a write off..

Trump wants to be careful attacking George Bush it doesn't play well with many GOPers. .

Apparently Trump likes his steak well done.......how un-American!

Some celeb endorsements...

Sanders...Ronda Rousey..Susan Sarandon..

Trump....Lou Ferrigno..Mike Tyson. .

Clinton...Beyonce...Barbara Streisand.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I see Sanders is getting draft dodger chucked at him...

Just out of interest, who by?

Jeb Bush forgot to renew his domain name........guess who bought it??

Now re-directs to donaldtrump.com

Fair play, that is hilarious.

navyblueshorts wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I see Sanders is getting draft dodger chucked at him...

Just out of interest, who by?

Don't know...............A lot of people don't want him elected...

He didn't dodge...he was too old.............Was an objector though...

Cruz has overtaken Trump in a new national poll for the first time since November...

It's a long time to get away with talking crap....

Whether it's an outlier remains to be seen...

Fox national poll..

Sanders 47..Clinton 44..

First time he's been in lead..

Could be an outlier and Clinton has SC firewall next week.

Sanders needs to win NV tomorrow...

Go on Bernie!

Bernie would be great for Britain, give everyone a taste of the mess we'd be in if a muppet like Corbyn was allowed in power.

At least Corbyn isn't currently embarrassing the entire Country like Cameron is.

Because he isn't in power (yet).

DC isn't embarassing the country, either, though I'm not saying he's doing a particularly good job. Pig-gate was the only 'embarassing' thing I can remember recently.

Sanders has two republican houses to block him...

.Not like the house of commons..

He couldn't embarrass America because he would have to compromise..

Clinton takes Nevada albeit not comfortably...Sanders had to win..

Problem is he's close enough to carry on all the way and one wonders how damaged she'll be just beating him..

First time i'm doubtful she can win a general..

Rubio beats her for me...She should be beating Sanders easier than this..

Jeb and Hillary both have the same basic problem: for years people said they would have made the better president, but after a couple of months on the campaign trail everyone looked at each other and went 'oh right, that's why it was the other one'.

Clinton always looks desperate for power...SNL always take the pee out of her....Nothing likeable about her...

Trump wins SC....Unbelievable how he gets away with what comes out of his trap...

Bush has to drop out...More votes for Rubio.

Bush out.

Some interesting egg on the faces of a fair few people......

TopHat24/7 wrote:Bush out.

Some interesting egg on the faces of a fair few people......

At least its unfertilized

Trump could really pull off a Republican nomination! Now... Can he beat Clinton who would almost certainly have a monithic minority vote?

Loozing at a brokered convention...Good news for Rubio..

Even better news is Bush quitting...His establishment vote will go to Rubio and even more importantly his donors !!!..

Rubio will win..As long as Trump can't cross the delegate line...Being ahead at the convention won't be enough..

The Don triumphs again.

Congratulations, Mr. President.

Never misunderestimate (see what I did there?) the stupidity of the average American, remember this is country that gave the world George Bush Jr. TWICE.

If Bernie takes the Dem nom, Trump is a shoe in. And the world is in trouble........

Duty281 wrote:The Don triumphs again.

Congratulations, Mr. President.

Problem Trump has is that he's not had any big states yet like Ohio and Texas which are winner takes all... with triple the amount of delegates!! Both currently have Cruz and Kasich winning.....He's down in other States but up in the most..Which means Trump has a great chance of winning the most delegates but falling short of the line....

Which means it will be a brokered convention.............Then the establishment get involved and it ends up ugly if a deal can't be brokered..

Looking a good bet for me a brokered convention..

Last brokered convention saw Ford beating Reagan in 76.............

BTW.......For any idiots/trolls out there....Sanders can't win now..........The super delegate count and system has put it out of a reach (Clinton is 500 ahead)..........Nevada really was the last chance saloon for the momentum.....He's staying in I imagine so he can get 35-40% of the delegates and get concessions on policy and a left winger on the ticket probably....Like Elizabeth Warren..

Superdelegates are a disgrace..............The GOP doesn't have them and it's a better system.

Should be a great debate tonight... GOP.

Last one before Super Tuesday and Rubio and Cruz need to get stuck in to Trump who is winning most of the 11 Super states....

Bloodfest..

Wow just been watching the CNN debate...Trump hammered to sh*t..