Golovkin To Face Hopkins?

If Canelo and Saunders pass on a Golovkin fight after they've all had their next bouts - apparently Hopkins could be in play for GGG.

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/10161045/gennady-golovkin-could-take-on-former-world-champion-bernard-hopkins

And we all die a little more inside

Think GGG's promoters are going to have to go down the wrestling route. Khan trains like a monster for his fight with Canelo, they step into the ring and just as they're about to touch gloves, the house lights go down, a spotlight illuminates a platform high above the ring, the dry ice pours forth and we see GGG being lowered to the ring in full boxing attire.

GGG steps into the ring, Canelo turns pale(r), Khan steps out of the ropes, fist bumps GGG and we get the fight we'd like.

Or not.

DAVE667 wrote:Think GGG's promoters are going to have to go down the wrestling route. Khan trains like a monster for his fight with Canelo, they step into the ring and just as they're about to touch gloves, the house lights go down, a spotlight illuminates a platform high above the ring, the dry ice pours forth and we see GGG being lowered to the ring in full boxing attire.

GGG steps into the ring, Canelo turns pale(r), Khan steps out of the ropes, fist bumps GGG and we get the fight we'd like.

Or not.

If Khan fist bumps Golovkin he'll probably take a ten count.

DAVE667 wrote:Think GGG's promoters are going to have to go down the wrestling route. Khan trains like a monster for his fight with Canelo, they step into the ring and just as they're about to touch gloves, the house lights go down, a spotlight illuminates a platform high above the ring, the dry ice pours forth and we see GGG being lowered to the ring in full boxing attire.

GGG steps into the ring, Canelo turns pale(r), Khan steps out of the ropes, fist bumps GGG and we get the fight we'd like.

Or not.

 haha I am all for that but that fist bump is a bit worrying for Khan's chin tho.

hazharrison wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:Think GGG's promoters are going to have to go down the wrestling route. Khan trains like a monster for his fight with Canelo, they step into the ring and just as they're about to touch gloves, the house lights go down, a spotlight illuminates a platform high above the ring, the dry ice pours forth and we see GGG being lowered to the ring in full boxing attire.

GGG steps into the ring, Canelo turns pale(r), Khan steps out of the ropes, fist bumps GGG and we get the fight we'd like.

Or not.

If Khan fist bumps Golovkin he'll probably take a ten count.

wow haz we was thinking the same thing.

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:

hazharrison wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:Think GGG's promoters are going to have to go down the wrestling route. Khan trains like a monster for his fight with Canelo, they step into the ring and just as they're about to touch gloves, the house lights go down, a spotlight illuminates a platform high above the ring, the dry ice pours forth and we see GGG being lowered to the ring in full boxing attire.

GGG steps into the ring, Canelo turns pale(r), Khan steps out of the ropes, fist bumps GGG and we get the fight we'd like.

Or not.

If Khan fist bumps Golovkin he'll probably take a ten count.

wow haz we was thinking the same thing.

I'm deleting my account.

Its too late haz

You share the same brainwave as me and TRUSS.

welcome to the family.

As for topic. Not a fight I personally want to see but you have to give it to Hopkins first Kovalev and now GGG 2 of the hardest hitters in boxing and grandad Hopkins who has been in the boxing game for years man and boy man and boy. Is actually willing to fight them.

Unlike Canyellow

Hopkins is crazy, man.

Could be a good idea this fight...............Maybe a complete hammering will tell a 50 year old and more important the various commissions that Hopkins and those like him are dangers to themselves..

TRUSS say hello to haz

he's one of us

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Its too late haz

You share the same brainwave as me and TRUSS.

welcome to the family.

As for topic. Not a fight I personally want to see but you have to give it to Hopkins first Kovalev and now GGG 2 of the hardest hitters in boxing and grandad Hopkins who has been in the boxing game for years man and boy man and boy. Is actually willing to fight them.

Unlike Canyellow

Don't bring me in to it...

Can anybody imagine the crap Stevenson would get if he was lined up to fight him Hoppo...??

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Its too late haz

You share the same braincell as me and TRUSS.

welcome to the family.

As for topic. Not a fight I personally want to see but you have to give it to Hopkins first Kovalev and now GGG 2 of the hardest hitters in boxing and grandad Hopkins who has been in the boxing game for years man and boy man and boy. Is actually willing to fight them.

Unlike Canyellow

Fairly obvious who has custody at the minute

He gets enough crap for refusing to fight Kovalev.

Coxy001 wrote:He gets enough crap for refusing to fight Kovalev.

Too much..

I love Hopkins. What a f....g legend. He will most likely get stopped,but what a guy.

Don't find him the most exciting to watch, but the guy has balls. A real throwback and a true all time great.

I respect Hopkins more than any fighter.

Said the same thing about Ali before Larry.

I don't think Golovkin would stop him to be honest (if Kovalev couldn't).

Although there were rumours that Golovkin used to rag Kovalev around the gym, so who knows?

I think Hopkins age will tell. Forget Floyd. Hopkins is a real great. Takes on anybody, anytime.

Respect!

AdamT wrote:I think Hopkins age will tell. Forget Floyd. Hopkins is a real great. Takes on anybody, anytime.

Respect!

Being silly are we ???.....

Whatever anybody thinks about Mayweather's cherrypicking.....Even his most avid hater recognises he's an alltime great....

Floyd is a greater fighter, but Imo Bernard is a real legend. I mean he is more of a throwback fight anyone kind of guy.

Think it's time that Hopkins knocked it on the head. Nothing more to achieve or prove to anyone and risking losing to fighters he'd have beat with ease in his prime.

Can only see one winner in this and it certainly ain't GGG. Hopkins should have never fought Kovalev, he was too big and strong. Hopkins couldn't even tie him up or frustrate him. He needed a lead and Kovalev to go head hunting but it was never on.

Now a guy who fight like Kovalev but weighs less than Hopkins is a totally different story.

Hopkins would possess a significant height and reach advantage as well as a weight advantage. Could make it interesting I suppose but if he wins, as Truss as mentioned before with regards to boxing, what does it say about the state of the sport if a 51 year old is beating a supposed top 3 p40per?

hazharrison wrote:I don't think Golovkin would stop him to be honest (if Kovalev couldn't).

Although there were rumours that Golovkin used to rag Kovalev around the gym, so who knows?

Came from ggg's trainer... Reckoned kovalev was scared of him. Talk of him dropping kovalev with a bodyshot in sparring was admitted by kovalev though.

Lots of great sparring stories about ggg, how much stall you should put by them is anyone's guess. Interestingly, should they ever get in a ring for real, the Alvarez golovkin sparring was meant to be quite well matched

Gym notes: Alvarez, Golovkin worth driving up a mountain to see

As much as I detest the long and winding drive up to Big Bear Lake, Calif., I knew I would eventually return to the mountain resort town sometime this year.

I’d been hearing too many stories about Gennady Golovkin, the undefeated WBA middleweight beltholder coached by Abel Sanchez at the veteran trainer‘s gym in Big Bear, to stay away.

When Sanchez told me last month that rising Mexican star Saul Alvarez would not only arrive to train at The Summit, his high altitude training center, in May but also spar with Golovkin, I knew my time to return had come.

By sitting in on a sparring session between the two, I’d find out whether there’s any truth to the outlandish gym rumors I’d heard about Golovkin, a 28-year-old native of Kazakhstan who goes by the nickname “Superman,” and I’d see how talented and tough the 20-year-old 154-pound beltholder really is.

I realize that sparring is not the same thing as an actual fight. However, given what I’d heard and read about Golovkin (20-0, 17 knockouts), a 2003 world amateur champ and 2004 Olympic silver medalist who defeated the likes of Lucian Bute (by KO), Andre Dirrell and Andy Lee in the amateurs, I figured he could tell me more about Alvarez (36-0-1, 26 KOs) than the kid’s fights with faded old Carlos Baldomir and naturally smaller recent opponents such as Jose Cotto, Lovemore Ndou and Matthew Hatton.

I was able to stave off my usual altitude sickness during the drive up to the remote San Bernardino mountain town with thoughts of all the hype I’ve heard on Golovkin in recent months. It began with a text message from Sam Garcia late last June.

“Perro is getting lit up in sparring by this Russian dude!” read the text message from Garcia, an assistant trainer for junior lightweight prospect Eloy Perez, who frequently trains in Big Bear.

“Perro,” of course, is Alfredo Angulo, the rugged junior middleweight contender who was preparing for his HBO-televised fight against Joachim Alcine last July when he locked horns with Golovkin at Sanchez‘s gym. Garcia later gave me a more-detailed account of the sparring session. Lightweight contender Urbano Antillon, who is trained by Sanchez, supported Garcia's story.

A few months later I got a phone call from the producer of a Spanish-language sports show, who swore that he witnessed Golovkin "embarrass" Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. at the Wild Card gym during an open workout held for the Latino media a few weeks before the unbeaten middleweight pulled out of scheduled Dec. 4 card.

A Wild Card regular who spotted me at the Alvarez-Hatton fight in Anaheim, Calif., this past March whispered that he saw Golovkin give undefeated super middleweight prospect Peter Quillin all he could handle at Roach’s famous boxing club.

The producer and the gym rat didn’t want to go on record for fear of being banned from Wild Card, which is understandable (I guess), but Garcia, who watched Golovkin and Angulo spar in Big Bear, has no problem sharing his observations with his fellow boxing fans.

“Alfredo Angulo is a very strong, very competitive, prideful guy who has a great team behind him, but Golovkin is on another level,” said Garcia, who says he watched three sparring sessions between the two over the course of one week. “His strength, his demeanor, his skill, everything he did in there was just too much for Angulo, which surprised the hell out of me.

“I’ve seen Angulo spar many times before and he‘s always the one doing the hurting. He’s so damn tough I’ve never seen him take a step back, let alone get hurt. I was expecting him to test this Golovkin guy that I’d never seen before, but ‘Superman’ was in there taking and giving, and he hurt Angulo a couple times, especially to the body. Angulo had to get on his bike against Golovkin, which was just bizarre to see.”

I didn’t know what to expect to see when I finally arrived to The Summit (along with RingTV.com videographer Daniel Morales and photographer Scott Kilbride), but I was ready to see it.

The sparring session: Work, not war

Before the session, which took place on Wednesday, May 25, began, Sanchez told me not to expect a blood-and-guts shootout. Angulo, a big, strong, mature pressure fighter, forced Golovkin’s heavy hand, so to speak.

In general, Sanchez discourages gym wars, which is why he's always operated out of private gyms away from an “audience” that might spur on unnecessary displays of machismo in the ring.

“Think of this gym like a school,” he said. “It’s not a public gym with pride and egos on the line. This is about learning. We’re here to work and prepare for our upcoming fights.”

Golovkin defends his WBA belt against former 154-pound titleholder Kassim Ouma on June 17 in Panama City, Panama. Alvarez defends his WBC strap against Ryan Rhodes on June 18 in his native Guadalajara, Mexico.

On this day, they would spar six four-minute rounds (which is no walk in the park 6,000 feet/1,800 meters above sea level).

“We’re using ‘Canelo’ for his speed,” Sanchez said. “He’s using us for our size.”

That was fine by me. I was using both for a RingTV.com column.

Round one:

Alvarez began the session sticking and moving effectively. The young redhead was on his toes when he maneuvered around the casually advancing Golovkin, but he planted his feet every time he let his hands go, including his stiff jab. However, Golovkin picked off most of Alvarez’s shots with his gloves as he quickly cut the ring off, occasionally switching stances as he stepped forward. The 2004 Olympian slipped a beautiful left uppercut through Alvarez’s guard to score the first significant punch midway through the round. Alvarez loaded up with a retaliatory hook that missed and spun him halfway around. Golovkin didn’t jab much, but he landed it whenever he let it go. Alvarez began to look for ways to counter his antagonist in the final minute and scored with a sweet right cross followed by a hook that shook Golovkin down to his shoes. The Kazakh just smiled at him, though. Unfazed, Alvarez stood his ground in the final 30 seconds and took a few hard body shots.

Round two:

Golovkin stalked a little faster while displaying decent head movement and a nice straight, crisp jab. Alvarez definitely felt the pressure as he gave ground without allowing his back to touch the ropes. He used fluid upper-body movement to evade Golovkin’s short power shots, which prompted co-trainer Jose Reynoso to yell “Bien, bien, muy bien!” from the corner. Alvarez landed a picture-perfect head-to-body hook combination mid-round. Golovkin fired back but the kid leaned away from the punches. Alvarez tried to counter Golovkin but couldn’t get through the older fighter’s guard. Still, the young man’s accuracy backed Golovkin off for the first time during the session. Alvarez followed Golovkin during the final minute but walked into a hard left hook that appeared to rock him with 10 seconds remaining. Alvarez didn’t return to his corner after the bell but instead tried to shake out his right leg, which immediately stiffened on impact of Golovkin‘s hook.

Rounds three and four:

Alvarez abandoned his jab and his upper-body movement and took the fight to Golovkin with both hands. Golovkin welcomed the aggression, easily blocking Alvarez’s punches while landing most of his. Alvarez sucked it up and even walked forward while attempting to block as much heat as he could, but it was clear that he could not match Golovkin’s strength or power. Still, the budding young star got in an occasional power punch whenever he let his hands go in bunches. His hook-right combination found the mark but his technique was not as tight as it was at the start of the session and his face was turning beet red from Golovkin‘s punches. The kid showed guts but he didn’t merit a single “bien” from Reynoso in the third round. He didn’t hear it until two and half minutes into the fourth round, when he let loose with a blazing five-punch combination. Golovkin dodged or parried most of the shots but Alvarez earned his respect for the round.

Round five:

A tired-looking Alvarez resumed his jab and lateral movement to buy himself a breather. His jab was especially effective when he shot-gunned it. Golovkin neglected his jab and looked to counter Alvarez’s left stick with single power punches (the hook in particular). Alvarez did more moving along the ring perimeter (his back now grazing the ropes) than punching, but he got off hard shots when he did let his hands go.

Round six:

Alvarez caught his second wind in the final round, bouncing on his toes with quick one-two combinations. “Muy bien!” Reynoso yelled after Alvarez landed a right uppercut-right cross combination off the ropes. Golovkin grinned again and attacked Alvarez’s body as the kid tried to spin away. They both loaded up with single power punches during the final minute of the round.

It was good stuff and definitely worth the trip. I wasn’t the only observer who appreciated the session.

“That was great,” said Antillon, who is slated to challenge WBA lightweight beltholder Brandon Rios in a can’t-miss barnburner on July 9. “Two undefeated champions going at it. You don’t see this often.”

Impressions: Sometimes the hype is real

The 24-minute sparring session reinforced some critical observations I (and many others) have regarding Alvarez’s style and technique, but I think I gained some insight into his ring temperament.

Alvarez is a versatile boxer who can stick and move or stalk and punch effectively. He’s comfortable in the ring (and under pressure), but if he’s hurt or feels that he’s being overwhelmed during a fight, I have the feeling he might just go for broke instead of try to survive.

That’s probably not the safe or smart thing to do in the face of adversity, but it’s the kind of attitude that makes an attraction even more popular with his fans.

I don’t know if Rhodes will be the guy to do it, but somebody’s going to clip the kid good (better than Cotto did or Golovkin did in the second round of the sparring I witnessed). Alavarez keeps his gloves up most of the time but his hand placement allows for a sharp shooter to pierce the center with uppercuts or come over and around the top with hooks.

Here’s a peak at some of the observations I jotted down in my notebook while watching Alvarez spar:

“Canelo doesn’t try to avoid confrontation.” (Written during the second round.)

“He fights in spurts. He can be outworked by a busy fighter with a constant jab. He’s got a good chin but it’s not indestructible.” (Written after the third round.)

So the kid isn’t perfect. I was still impressed with what I saw from him because I realize that he was in with a real beast.

Let’s give him credit for daring to test himself.

“It was good for him to come here,” said Sanchez. “At home he was the big dog. There was nowhere to go up. He was probably getting complacent in his training. Here, he has to be on his Ps and Qs because there’s a bigger dog.”

That’s what the young man wanted.

“Rhodes is talented and I know he’s going to be very strong because he’s coming down from middleweight,” Alvarez said through Sanchez. “So if I can spar with a smart, powerful middleweight champion like Golovkin, in my mind, I’m not going to have any problem with Rhodes’ ability or size.”

My first look at Golovkin was a treat. I think he’s the real deal. He won’t be able to fight in the States or on American TV until he resolves his contractual dispute with Germany-based Universum, which probably won’t happen until after November (when he says his contract expires), but ‘Superman’ is going to be worth watching whenever ESPN, Showtime or HBO discovers him. Mark my words.

Golovkin is a very strong and durable athlete with all-around skill and excellent technique, which includes defensive prowess. He has good footwork. Pivots well. Makes use of feints. He’s brutal but crafty. If he can take a punch, he’s going to be very hard to beat.

Here’s a few notes on Golovkin:

“His right hand is like a laser beam. It reminds me of Kostya Tszyu’s right. The way he holds his hands also reminds me of Tszyu. Come to think of it, Golovkin kind of looks of like Tszyu. He’s got the same muscle tone, Central Asian facial features and oil-black hair (sans the pigtail).”

Miscellaneous Gym Notes:

Antillon told me that he signed the contract last week for the Rios fight, which Showtime will televise from the Home Depot Center in Carson, Calif.

“It’s a done deal as far as I’m concerned,” he said. “I can’t wait. We’re going to be like two runaway trains meeting at the center of the ring.

“It’s happening at the right time for me because I’ve got the experience of my fight with (Humberto) Soto, and I’ve had more time to grow from Abel‘s way of training.

Golovkin, who is learning English, said he had more than 300 amateur bouts.

His boxing heroes are Sugar Ray Robinson and Sugar Ray Leonard.

I met Sanchez in Big Bear back in 1999, when he was training Frans Botha to fight Shannon Briggs that summer. He’s one of my favorite trainers and he happened to train one of my all-time favorite fighters, Terry Norris.

I often tell Sanchez that “Terrible Terry” was my main guy in the early 1990s and one of the reasons I became a hardcore fan.

He told me that Golovkin would be my new favorite in about a year. We’ll see.

Thanks for sharing that Haz. I have to admit I have went full circle on GGG. He is probably my favourite boxer. He is really being avoided like a plague.

Anyhow, as his name grows, more money will be on offer to fight him. Then he will get the likes of Canelo in the ring with him

Personally I would like to see him at SMW, but if he makes MW comfortably, why should he move up, if he doesn't feel the need to. Monzon and Hagler did ok at MW.

DAVE667 wrote:Think GGG's promoters are going to have to go down the wrestling route. Khan trains like a monster for his fight with Canelo, they step into the ring and just as they're about to touch gloves, the house lights go down, a spotlight illuminates a platform high above the ring, the dry ice pours forth and we see GGG being lowered to the ring in full boxing attire.

GGG steps into the ring, Canelo turns pale(r), Khan steps out of the ropes, fist bumps GGG and we get the fight we'd like.

Or not.

AdamT wrote:Thanks for sharing that Haz. I have to admit I have went full circle on GGG. He is probably my favourite boxer

You hated him a week ago...

Who's he fought in 5 1/2 years ??

Spend less time butt-licking and more time thinking ....

I am not butt licking. I just liked to stir the pot and wind up with GGG.

Would you not be better getting another testosterone jag. You're starting to sound like a middle aged woman.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

AdamT wrote:Thanks for sharing that Haz. I have to admit I have went full circle on GGG. He is probably my favourite boxer

You hated him a week ago...

Who's he fought in 5 1/2 years ??

Spend less time butt-licking and more time thinking ....

"I have went" Oh dear...anyway..."I have went full circle"....if you hate him and go full circle, you STILL him. What you mean is you've done a 180.

DAVE667 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

AdamT wrote:Thanks for sharing that Haz. I have to admit I have went full circle on GGG. He is probably my favourite boxer

You hated him a week ago...

Who's he fought in 5 1/2 years ??

Spend less time butt-licking and more time thinking ....
"I have went" Oh dear...anyway..."I have went full circle"....if you hate him and go full circle, you STILL him. What you mean is you've done a 180.

I am a stupid c..t Dave. Thank you!!

AdamT wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

AdamT wrote:Thanks for sharing that Haz. I have to admit I have went full circle on GGG. He is probably my favourite boxer

You hated him a week ago...

Who's he fought in 5 1/2 years ??

Spend less time butt-licking and more time thinking ....
"I have went" Oh dear...anyway..."I have went full circle"....if you hate him and go full circle, you STILL him. What you mean is you've done a 180.

I am a stupid c..t Dave. Thank you!!

Saves me getting banned for saying so, thanks Adam.

Golovkin is fighting someone called Dominic Wade...........Beat Sam soliman (44-12) on a split in his last fight..

While he waits for a big fight apparently.....

He's good at waiting... apparently Fury is ducking him..

Of COURSE he is. Because his Competition is fighting a glass jawed Welter.

I don't hear many middles calling him out.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

AdamT wrote:Thanks for sharing that Haz. I have to admit I have went full circle on GGG. He is probably my favourite boxer

You hated him a week ago...

Who's he fought in 5 1/2 years ??

Spend less time butt-licking and more time thinking ....

Anyone who'd get in with him.

I heard he ducked Khan, so Canelo stepped up to the plate.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Golovkin is fighting someone called Dominic Wade...........Beat Sam soliman (44-12) on a split in his last fight..

While he waits for a big fight apparently.....

He's good at waiting... apparently Fury is ducking him..

Wade is the highest ranked middleweight who'd get in with him (rated 10th by TBRB).

Canelo, Jacobs and Saunders all passed and he's walloped most of the others.

Who was he supposed to fight?

hazharrison wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

AdamT wrote:Thanks for sharing that Haz. I have to admit I have went full circle on GGG. He is probably my favourite boxer

You hated him a week ago...

Who's he fought in 5 1/2 years ??

Spend less time butt-licking and more time thinking ....

Anyone who'd get in with him.

Yep........Everyone is scared..

Let's not argue about it.... You're so far up Golovkin's backside you make Adam look dignified..

This is an honest question Truss. Who do you think can beat GGG from 160 down?

Who is more exciting??

Also it has to be said.

I can't believe you would notice who's head is up who's backside. Your own is that far up Khans.

I don''t think anyone can beat him Adam but that's not my point....I think he could clear up at 168 too.....

I think he's the best fighter around with a couple of others...

Just tired of him fighting crap and blaming everyone else for it.....and getting a free ride off wide eyed fan boys..

That's a fair post Truss.

By the way, I like the banter with you guys. If I'm being a d1ck sometimes, I'm sorry. Just like a bit of trash talk. Passes the day.

I will try and be more level headed now.

Didn't Degale say he'd fight GGG if he moved up to 168

I think he did.

I think GGG is really hanging for that Canelo fight. Huge money to be made. The problem he has, is he is getting no younger and I really do think Floyd will be coming back for Canelo/Khan in Sept.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

hazharrison wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

AdamT wrote:Thanks for sharing that Haz. I have to admit I have went full circle on GGG. He is probably my favourite boxer

You hated him a week ago...

Who's he fought in 5 1/2 years ??

Spend less time butt-licking and more time thinking ....

Anyone who'd get in with him.

Yep........Everyone is scared..

Let's not argue about it.... You're so far up Golovkin's backside you make Adam look dignified..

You'll never find me suggesting Golovkin is "top five all-time" based on nothing more than the fact I'm a fan of his. I like watching the guy fight but I hardly go around spouting nonsense about him like you and the Floydettes used to about Mayweather.

Fighters don't scare - that's why they do what they do. There is a huge list of middleweights, though, who have turned down offers to fight GGG. Some, like Saunders, probably won't ever be offered the same money for a single fight ever again.

If Golovkin had opted to fight a china-chinned welterweight, there'd have been an outcry. Instead, he plods on, fighting as many top ten rated middleweights as he can while forcing the WBC titlist to fight him at 160 (which is what we all want to see). You may not like the guy based on his ethnicity but you could at least be objective about him.

We've been here before....

Let's leave it..

Apparently Khan v Canelo winner has 15 days to agree to fight GGG, or they will be stripped of the title.

Hopefully this is true.

Sounds good but I'm sure the Mexican will be given more wiggle room - i.e. agree to fight GGG but be allowed to request illegitimate catchweight.

TopHat24/7 wrote:Sounds good but I'm sure the Mexican will be given more wiggle room - i.e. agree to fight GGG but be allowed to request illegitimate catchweight.

Yeah no doubt. It is very strange he does this, because he looks as big as any middle out there. He isn't the tallest, but Canelo is a tank.