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Post by Liam_Main Thu 02 Jun 2011, 6:52 pm

First topic message reminder :

So the 2nd test is upon us,Will England make another tremendous win or will Sri Lanka fight back to win the 2nd test? All will be known in 5 days time.

The 12 man teams are as follow:

England
Andrew Strauss (C)
Alistair Cook
Jonathan Trott
Kevin Pietersen
Ian Bell
Eoin Morgan
Matt Prior (W-K)
Stuart Broad
Graeme Swann
Chris Tremlett
Steve Finn
Jade Dernbach

Sri Lanka (Can't find the 12 man squad anywhere)

Tillakaratne Dilshan (C)
Tharanga Paranavithana (Spell check!)
Lahiru Thirimanne
Kumar Sangakkara
Mahela Jayawardene
Thilan Samaraweera
Dinesh Chandimal
Prasanna Jaywardene (W-K)
Thissara Perera
Suraj Randiv
Ajantha Mendis
Rangana Herath
Dilhara Fernanado
Chanka Welegedara
Suranga Lakmal
Farveez Maharoof

Once again like the 1st feel free to discuss the action OK

And updates of the match will be up on the thread.
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Post by Cowshot Tue 07 Jun 2011, 1:50 pm

dummy half: I don't think we need to push and risk.

Accelerate now, as they seem to be trying to, put the game utterly beyond reach so the Sri Lankans can ONLY save the game without the full services of their captain and best bat (at present). It's a bad psychological place and pressure could win us this game.

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Post by alfie Tue 07 Jun 2011, 1:52 pm

Bell showing intent here.

Declaration may come sooner than we expect...

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue 07 Jun 2011, 1:52 pm

Bell down the track going for the big one, but it's high rather than long, and he's dropped by Maharoof. Not great that. Cook unleashes the reverse sweep, and gets four! nice batting, a single takes him to 96.

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Post by Cowshot Tue 07 Jun 2011, 1:54 pm

They're trying to push it along now, by the sound of it!

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Post by alfie Tue 07 Jun 2011, 1:56 pm

Cook on 98...Bell dodges a bullet ..no-one appealed?

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Post by Cowshot Tue 07 Jun 2011, 1:58 pm

Just bad work from Doctrove. Should have referred the decision by the sound of it.

Clearly hammering it along for the declaration.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue 07 Jun 2011, 1:59 pm

this is delightful batting by Ian Bell, it really is.

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Post by alfie Tue 07 Jun 2011, 1:59 pm

Judging from the way Bell is playing I reckon England want 60 overs to bowl...at the current rate they will have a lead of 350...

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Post by dyrewolfe Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:00 pm

Great effort by England this morning, rattling along at 4 an over.

Good contribution from KP - for once - and a decent knock from Trott to steady the ship after Strauss' very early departure. Fantastic knock from Cookie too...on 97 as I write this. Surely must get the ton this time?

Bell looking very feisty too. Declaration must be coming soon. Just waiting for Cook to get his hundred maybe?
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:02 pm

Cook gets his hundred. Well played indeed sir!

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Post by alfie Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:02 pm

Come on Cookie ..get that 100 , then you can have a swing...here it is!!!!!

Well played...again clap clap clap

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Post by Fists of Fury Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:03 pm

Very well done to Alastair Cook, excellent Sir.

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Post by alfie Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:04 pm

18 hundreds already...

Hammond's record is on borrowed time...

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Post by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:05 pm

Wow, i cant take my eyes off Bell right now. Really going for it Very Happy. 350 will beenough i feel
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Post by dyrewolfe Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:06 pm

How lucky was that for Cookie?!?! Shocked Suicidal attempt at a single - only reprieved by the umpire.

Sri Lankans will be mighty peeved about that.
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Post by Guest Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:07 pm

Definitely going for it. Declaration at around 3 o clock??

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Post by Guest Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:08 pm

Seems Cook is gone too..

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Post by Dave. Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:11 pm

Absolutely splendid job by the TMS team. Spiffing chaps!

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Post by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:11 pm

He looked out for my money.

And is, great effort though. clap

Moggs to come in and have a swing now.
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Post by dyrewolfe Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:11 pm

Congrats Cook on another great innings! clap

Wonder if Strauss will let Bell go on and get his 50 now?
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:11 pm

Cook gone, hmmm, not too sure about that, if you need ten minutes to decide then surely it's benefit of the doubt to the batsman. Oh well, another fine innings from the man, Morgan to biff a few before declaration?

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Post by Guest Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:12 pm

It's just a case of building a big lead.

Lead by 314 currently.

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Post by Guest Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:13 pm

great knock from cook, shame kp got out.

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Post by dyrewolfe Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:13 pm

Cook gone - just a few runs later. Will Strauss declare now?

Should do IMO. 300 ought to be defensible with only half a day left.
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Post by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:14 pm

It was close but looked out to me. Moggs to T20 it here?
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:16 pm

Moggsy gone, driving way too early at a ball from Fernando and hitting it straight up in the air. Wasn't a slower ball or anything, maybe just held up a touch. Still can't criticise the lad, he was doing what his team need.

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Post by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:16 pm

Nope Sad
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Post by dyrewolfe Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:18 pm

Ah, looks like the plan is to go T20 for the rest of the innings. Sri Lanka ought to be in fairly soon then. Wink
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Post by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:19 pm

This is what happens when teams are trying to force the pace. Thats why i said earlier that England needed money in the bank before spending.

Had England tried to do this earlier then they could have been in serious trouble now.
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Post by alfie Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:19 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:Cook gone, hmmm, not too sure about that, if you need ten minutes to decide then surely it's benefit of the doubt to the batsman. Oh well, another fine innings from the man, Morgan to biff a few before declaration?

Tend to agree. I think he was correctly given out , but if you need a microscope to be certain perhaps that is taking things too far - and wasting a lot of time.

Not that it matters today - well played anyway Cookie.

Morgan had a biff and went quickly - won't be long now I think...perhaps 2 more overs ?

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Post by Fists of Fury Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:20 pm

Agree with you Eirebilly, personally I think England have gone about this in exactly the right way. Bat Sri Lanka out of the game first and foremost, then stick them in with somewhere in the region of 50 overs left.

Dilshan injured, and with a few early wickets the proverbial cat will well and truly be amongst the proverbial pigeons.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:20 pm

I think Cook was out, but then I'm a wicket keeper, and tend to think anything close is out Smile

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Post by Duty281 Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:21 pm

We lose 2 overs for the changeover don't we? So maybe declare in 1-2 overs which leaves 60 overs to bowl Sri Lanka.

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Post by Pal Joey Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:21 pm

Maybe they think they'll only need 24.4 overs again...? Or playing safe and going for the draw.

What's the record score for a 3rd session at Lord's in modern times, I wonder?

I would have thought 275-300 was plenty for a declaration.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:21 pm

now prior gone, daft run out, are England going to be bowled out after all?

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Post by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:22 pm

Sillyness setting in here
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Post by alfie Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:24 pm

Poor running there from Bell...in this situation I think he should have just taken off ...poor old Prior high and dry...

Still I'm happy to see Bell still in , is batting wonderfully aggressively...but surely not for much longer ?

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Post by Fists of Fury Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:24 pm

Always the case when a team is on the verge of a declaration, Eirebilly.

It does however provide some entertainment! Let's hope none of our batsmen are too fussed about their averages Wink

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Post by dummy_half Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:24 pm

Might not need to declare at the rate the wickets are going...

I guess they'll let Bell pass 50 before calling them in, so should be a lead of 330ish - presumably something like 57 overs to get them, so almost a run a ball.

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Post by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:24 pm

England will want to leave Sri Lanka needing 6 an over to win i feel. They should in all fairness have enough to ot lose the match considering Dilshan is injured.
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Post by Carrotdude Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:24 pm

I still think there was a bit of a happy medium to be found. I wasn't expecting a T20 slog all day but just a bit more attacking intenet rather than just focusing on getting 100. Cook got 26 runs all morning, I don't think it's unreasonable to say that was a bit too cautious.

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Post by Pal Joey Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:25 pm

Still 63 overs left - enough for 2 Cardiffs! Very Happy

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:26 pm

If they had played like this from the start of the day theyd be staring at defeat right now.

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Post by Cowshot Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:27 pm

Another 20 runs, I reckon. Looks like 350 is Strauss' target.

England have played this innings just about right, for me.

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Post by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:29 pm

Carrot, England were not that cautious, they were scoring at 4 an over and building themselves into a position of strength before hitting out. Played the innings perfectly in my eyes.
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Post by Cowshot Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:29 pm

Don't forget that if Jay and Sanga get going, they can really wallop it around.

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Post by Pal Joey Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:30 pm

Cowshot wrote:Another 20 runs, I reckon. Looks like 350 is Strauss' target.

England have played this innings just about right, for me.

Cowshot - you're nearby? No chance of rain in those clouds - or poor light later on?

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Post by alfie Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:32 pm

BELL an excellent 50 clap

Valuable player these days...call them in?

No. One more over?

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Post by Fists of Fury Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:33 pm

I've said for a very long time that Ian Bell is the best batsman this country has produced in a very long time. It appeared the mental side of things was still to be sorted, and now that it is, it is certainly paying dividents.

Great momentum-inducing knock this has been.

Call them in now I'd say, we have enough.

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Post by Carrotdude Tue 07 Jun 2011, 2:34 pm

eirebilly wrote:Carrot, England were not that cautious, they were scoring at 4 an over and building themselves into a position of strength before hitting out. Played the innings perfectly in my eyes.

It was good, but it could have been better. If we have them 9 down at the close of play then I personally would ask questions. We have a good chance of a win though, should be a very interesting afternoon.

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