England vs Sri Lanka 2nd test debate

by Liam_Main Thu 02 Jun 2011, 6:52 pm

First topic message reminder :

So the 2nd test is upon us,Will England make another tremendous win or will Sri Lanka fight back to win the 2nd test? All will be known in 5 days time.

The 12 man teams are as follow:

England
Andrew Strauss (C)
Alistair Cook
Jonathan Trott
Kevin Pietersen
Ian Bell
Eoin Morgan
Matt Prior (W-K)
Stuart Broad
Graeme Swann
Chris Tremlett
Steve Finn
Jade Dernbach

Sri Lanka (Can't find the 12 man squad anywhere)

Tillakaratne Dilshan (C)
Tharanga Paranavithana (Spell check!)
Lahiru Thirimanne
Kumar Sangakkara
Mahela Jayawardene
Thilan Samaraweera
Dinesh Chandimal
Prasanna Jaywardene (W-K)
Thissara Perera
Suraj Randiv
Ajantha Mendis
Rangana Herath
Dilhara Fernanado
Chanka Welegedara
Suranga Lakmal
Farveez Maharoof

Once again like the 1st feel free to discuss the action

And updates of the match will be up on the thread.

by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 5:26 pm

I wonder if they will bother to bowl out the last overs of if the will just stop in 30 mins.

by Liam_Main Tue 07 Jun 2011, 5:28 pm

Trott gets a wicket,Paranavitana gone.

by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 5:31 pm

Well i'll be... Who saw that coming?

by Liam_Main Tue 07 Jun 2011, 5:34 pm

Certainly not me. Trott seemingly very happy with his wicket!

by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 5:36 pm

Still too late but at least its interesting Very Happy

by Liam_Main Tue 07 Jun 2011, 5:39 pm

Trott not bowling half bad either maybe England should use him a bit more.

by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 5:44 pm

He is looking very handy isnt he...

I think that we are the last of the die hards here Liam 8)

by Liam_Main Tue 07 Jun 2011, 5:48 pm

Everyone else must have switched off..don't blame them too much either.

Still got hope Eire?

by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 5:49 pm

Nah, lost the hope. I think that they will call it come 18:00 as well.

by Liam_Main Tue 07 Jun 2011, 5:51 pm

Me too. Just a chance here for Englands bowlers to get some overs under there belts.

by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 5:52 pm

Its been a very interesting series so far, lets hope the 3rd test isjust as interesting.

by Liam_Main Tue 07 Jun 2011, 5:55 pm

As long as it's a England win i'll be happy thumbsup

by Liam_Main Tue 07 Jun 2011, 5:56 pm

Oh and there will be a 3rd test debate thread put up by yours truly in a few days time.

by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 5:56 pm

I think they will win the series. Its been an excellent lat 2 years for England cricket Very Happy

by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 5:57 pm

Ok, no probs

by Guest Tue 07 Jun 2011, 6:03 pm

swanny back on.

by Liam_Main Tue 07 Jun 2011, 6:04 pm

eirebilly wrote:I think they will win the series. Its been an excellent lat 2 years for England cricket

Them becoming the no.1 Test side would round up a brilliant few years for England.

by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 6:06 pm

Yes but i cant see it happening soon to be honest. India and South Africa are still better sides but England are making a habit of winning Very Happy

by Guest Tue 07 Jun 2011, 6:06 pm

good point eirebilly.

by Liam_Main Tue 07 Jun 2011, 6:09 pm

Hand shake by Strauss,match finishes as a draw.

by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 6:10 pm

Where this England side differs from previous sides is that they have players who are not afraid to take on a challenge. In days gone by, England teams were not mentally strong but now whenever a player (or 2) fail, there is always one or two others that take up the challenge.

by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 6:10 pm

Well thats that then. Its been great chatting cricket with you all.

by Liam_Main Tue 07 Jun 2011, 6:14 pm

Yeah Billy,it's been good. Pleasure chatting with you's as always.

by Guest Tue 07 Jun 2011, 6:30 pm

Been cracking getting involved and discussing the cricket. Here's to the third test

by eirebilly Tue 07 Jun 2011, 6:56 pm

Looking forward to it as well :-)

by Guest Tue 07 Jun 2011, 7:04 pm

Good bunch of lads on this cricket section, great to talk with you all!

by Liam_Main Tue 07 Jun 2011, 7:07 pm

Sections really started to pick up now,where almost overtaking the footy board!

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Tue 07 Jun 2011, 7:28 pm

Fists of Fury wrote:

Yes Liam, Freddie spoilt us really, somebody capable of extremely hostile 90mph bowling and with the capability to chip in the odd runs.

What like the last time they played Sri Lanka at Lords and Flintoff ended up bowling 50+ overs in the last Innings to taking an incredible 2 wickets for 1hundredandalot?
SL batted over 2 days to save a game following on in that test. Think England had another fast bowler (Mahmood?) that game too.
Sometimes sides dont collapse for under 100 two tests in a row whoever they are facing.

Flintoff is a bt of a romantic myth. His pretty average record is forgiven because he "won matches". England have won more tests since he retired. Possibly a coincidence, but now they have 6 proper batsmen and 4 bowlers who can bowl long spells all day if required and not have to have surgery the next day.

Sri Lanka of course now have the ultimate "all rounder", Maharoof. Lets not get too carried away in the search for the next Botham lest England get one of those (again). Unfortunatly Chuck Norris isnt England qualified.

by msp83 Tue 07 Jun 2011, 8:32 pm

calling Maharoof an all-rounder is a serious insult. can't bat, can't ball, can't field. in a way, the ultimate all-rounder. Thisara Parera can at least give the ball a good thumping and bowl ok. his ODI performances hasn't been too bad either. Lanka's better of playing either him, or apropper batter Chandimal? at 6, and move Prasanna down.

by Guest Tue 07 Jun 2011, 8:36 pm

maharoof is an allrounder look at his form for lancashire

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Tue 07 Jun 2011, 9:28 pm

msp83 wrote:calling Maharoof an all-rounder is a serious insult. can't bat, can't ball, can't field. in a way, the ultimate all-rounder. Thisara Parera can at least give the ball a good thumping and bowl ok. his ODI performances hasn't been too bad either. Lanka's better of playing either him, or apropper batter Chandimal? at 6, and move Prasanna down.

Yes my ultimate all rounder was a bit sarcastic.
Its ludicrous to persist with a guy whos averaging under 20 with the bat at 7 on the grounds he bowls worse than Trott. Sri Lanka's proper batsmen offer some reasonable back upbowling options if they really dont trust their front 4. Picking a guy who cant bowl effectivly in tests isnt going to balance the side, and he does nothing to help the batting in the tail. Englands batting is stronger at 9 than Sri Lanka is at 7, thats ridiculous.
Its not even like he hasnt had a chance to prove himslef, hes played quite a few tests now surely. I dont care what his ODI and County stats are, hes clearly out of his depth at test level, at least the OAP Collingwood who limped around the last year was stll a good fielder and had some credit in his tank from prevous peformances. This guy is a disgrace, he should be playing for Australia or something.

Get a proper batsman in.

by sonic_boom10 Tue 07 Jun 2011, 9:38 pm

Maharoof is a decent ODI all rounder. Not a Test standard all rounder.

Chandimal should've played at Cardiff. Samaraweera has been seriously village.

Lankans need to play Randiv plus Herath as well.

by jackmac Tue 07 Jun 2011, 9:53 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
msp83 wrote:calling Maharoof an all-rounder is a serious insult. can't bat, can't ball, can't field. in a way, the ultimate all-rounder. Thisara Parera can at least give the ball a good thumping and bowl ok. his ODI performances hasn't been too bad either. Lanka's better of playing either him, or apropper batter Chandimal? at 6, and move Prasanna down.

Yes my ultimate all rounder was a bit sarcastic.
Its ludicrous to persist with a guy whos averaging under 20 with the bat at 7 on the grounds he bowls worse than Trott. Sri Lanka's proper batsmen offer some reasonable back upbowling options if they really dont trust their front 4. Picking a guy who cant bowl effectivly in tests isnt going to balance the side, and he does nothing to help the batting in the tail. Englands batting is stronger at 9 than Sri Lanka is at 7, thats ridiculous.
Its not even like he hasnt had a chance to prove himslef, hes played quite a few tests now surely. I dont care what his ODI and County stats are, hes clearly out of his depth at test level, at least the OAP Collingwood who limped around the last year was stll a good fielder and had some credit in his tank from prevous peformances. This guy is a disgrace, he should be playing for Australia or something.

Get a proper batsman in.

by jackmac Tue 07 Jun 2011, 9:55 pm

jackmac wrote:
Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
msp83 wrote:calling Maharoof an all-rounder is a serious insult. can't bat, can't ball, can't field. in a way, the ultimate all-rounder. Thisara Parera can at least give the ball a good thumping and bowl ok. his ODI performances hasn't been too bad either. Lanka's better of playing either him, or apropper batter Chandimal? at 6, and move Prasanna down.

Yes my ultimate all rounder was a bit sarcastic.
Its ludicrous to persist with a guy whos averaging under 20 with the bat at 7 on the grounds he bowls worse than Trott. Sri Lanka's proper batsmen offer some reasonable back upbowling options if they really dont trust their front 4. Picking a guy who cant bowl effectivly in tests isnt going to balance the side, and he does nothing to help the batting in the tail. Englands batting is stronger at 9 than Sri Lanka is at 7, thats ridiculous.
Its not even like he hasnt had a chance to prove himslef, hes played quite a few tests now surely. I dont care what his ODI and County stats are, hes clearly out of his depth at test level, at least the OAP Collingwood who limped around the last year was stll a good fielder and had some credit in his tank from prevous peformances. This guy is a disgrace, he should be playing for Australia or something.

Get a proper batsman in.

by dummy_half Wed 08 Jun 2011, 9:53 am

"Where this England side differs from previous sides is that they have players who are not afraid to take on a challenge. In days gone by, England teams were not mentally strong but now whenever a player (or 2) fail, there is always one or two others that take up the challenge.."

That's a good point, and one I've been making for about the last 3 years - with the exception of Swann as the only effective spinner, we've relied on all the members of the team at one time or another to produce for us. The ultimate example was when Broad made his ton in partnership with Trott - took us from a position where it looked like we'd be out cheaply to establishing a very competetive total - this first innings gave another example, with Prior and the lower order really contributing with the bat. It's a good habit to have got into.

by trebellbobaggins Thu 09 Jun 2011, 11:03 am

I missed the end of this one. Busy busy.

I think a draw was a fair result. Great contest on cracking test pitch.

by dyrewolfe Thu 09 Jun 2011, 1:29 pm

Agree it was a fair result. No so much about the wicket though...a little too batsman friendly IMHO.

That said, when the bowlers of both teams got their deliveries right, they did cause problems. I suppose it was more to do with the mostly below-par quality of bowling that led to the run-fest.

Think I stopped watching with a couple of hours to go, when Sri Lanka still only had 3 wickets down.

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri 10 Jun 2011, 12:19 pm

Dont forget that nearly a dyas worth of overs were lost to rain and bad light. Had this been a dry test it probably wouldve been a result even with some mediocre bowling at times.
It wasnt excessivley batsman friendly, and it makes a change form last summer when half the tests matches were over by the fourth day.

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