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Post by Marky Thu 18 Feb 2016, 10:47 am

First topic message reminder :

Rules;
£150m budget with to be spent on anybody based on their value on TM.
Draft system to build the squads.
Squad to be between 20-25 players, no more, no less.
Tactics short, teamsheet, substitutes, 100 words of tactics, few sentences for substitutions.
Everybody votes or lose a goal from their score, just scores and scorers acceptable although feedback is encouraged.
Choose your own real life team name although this will have no bearing on the players you can or can't sign.

Participants;
Azzy - Vancouver Whitecaps
BamBam - Ebbsfleet United
Holymiky - MK Dons
Marky - Crawley Town
Nadeem - Real Madrid
Olly - Accrington Stanley
Trebs - Liaoning Whowin
Viva - Manchester United
Hero - Macclesfield Town
Nando - Chesham United

Structure;

8 fixtures per team, 4 at home, 4 away. Two relegated from the Premier League, two promoted from the Championship.
3rd place in both leagues will playoff for the right to play in the Premier League.
Starting point determined at random.

Premier League
1. Chesham United
2. Liaoning Whowin
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3. Macclesfield Town
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4. Manchester United
5. MK Dons


Championship
1. Accrington Stanley
2. Crawley Town

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3. Ebbsfleet United
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4. Real Madrid
5. Vancouver Whitecaps

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/detailsuche/spielerdetail/suche

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 19 Feb 2016, 3:23 pm

The lack of Aaron Cresswell love disgusts me
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Post by Marky Fri 19 Feb 2016, 4:02 pm

Even Aaron Cresswell's parents wouldn't put him into the best XI on here.

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Post by Holymiky Fri 19 Feb 2016, 4:04 pm

Laugh

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Post by Azzy Fri 19 Feb 2016, 4:07 pm

I rate him as the best LB in the league Olly. He's immense and deserves an England callup, certainly ahead of Baines.

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Post by Marky Fri 19 Feb 2016, 4:26 pm

I like Cresswell, but I've compiled a list of better LB's than Aaron Cresswell within this league.

Chiellini not even a LB gets picked ahead of him
Christian Fuchs
Lucas Digne
Cristian Ansaldi
Alex Telles
Maxwell
Patrice Evra
Jetro Willems
Ben Davies

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 19 Feb 2016, 4:39 pm

#headsgone
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Post by BamBam Fri 19 Feb 2016, 4:43 pm

I fall somewhere between Azzy and Marky's extremes

He's a decent left back, better than a few of the ones on Marky's list!

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Post by Azzy Fri 19 Feb 2016, 4:57 pm

Fuchs has been bang average for Leicester.
Digne is mine so I won't comment.
Ansaldi is average.
Telles can be good, but isn't as good as Cresswell.
Maxwell has one good game and you all cream over him. He's the weak link in the PSG team.
Evra was poor three years ago. Serie A is like MLS these days.
Willems never fulfilled his potential.
Davies is promising but is second choice behind Danny Rose. That's Danny Rose.

Cresswell has been a revelation for West Ham and would be in my PL XI for the season, easily. With van Aanholt (mine) on the bench as cover. Azpilicueta at RB to allow him to play too.

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Post by Holymiky Fri 19 Feb 2016, 5:02 pm

If you are referring to me saying he had a good game the other day yes I did because he had a good game and I don't think everyone creamed over him, it doesn't seem like Hero is his biggest fan either and I don't think many people would put him in their top 5 list of left backs around even top 10 but he is a decent player IMO.

As for Serie A I disagree that it's like the MLS, there are some really good teams in there, I don't think I even have to mention how good Juvenus and Napoli are.

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Post by Hero Fri 19 Feb 2016, 5:07 pm

The fact that Serie A is on the cusp of overtaking the Premier League for four slots in the Champions League shows the MLS reference up for what it is.

Can Aaron Creswell do this?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/best-penalty-ever-taken-holland-5885828


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Post by Marky Fri 19 Feb 2016, 5:33 pm

Azzy wrote:Fuchs has been bang average for Leicester.

Yeah, fair point. I mean where are Leicester this season anyway? Average players.

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Post by Azzy Fri 19 Feb 2016, 6:43 pm

Marky wrote:
Azzy wrote:Fuchs has been bang average for Leicester.

Yeah, fair point. I mean where are Leicester this season anyway? Average players.
Schmeichel, Huth, Morgan, Kante, Mahrez and Vardy have been excellent. Drinkwater and Okazaki good. Fuchs and Simpson less so. Just my opinion.

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Post by GSC Fri 19 Feb 2016, 8:07 pm

Being part of a great team doesn't make you a great player.
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Post by Hero Fri 19 Feb 2016, 8:31 pm

Jesper Blomqvist was part of the team that beat Bayern in Utd's treble winning side.

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Post by Marky Fri 19 Feb 2016, 10:52 pm

Hero wrote:Jesper Blomqvist was part of the team that beat Bayern in Utd's treble winning side.

He was awesome that night.

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Post by Hero Sat 20 Feb 2016, 1:55 pm

When can I next buy someone from TM?

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Post by nadeem2099 Sat 20 Feb 2016, 2:51 pm

Hero wrote:When can I next buy someone that viva has heard of from TM?
Fixed.

Arsenal have the best fans ever Laugh
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Post by Hero Sat 20 Feb 2016, 3:07 pm

nadeem2099 wrote:
Hero wrote:When can I next buy someone that viva has heard of from TM?
Fixed.

Arsenal have the best fans ever Laugh

Is that Nando?

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Post by GSC Sat 20 Feb 2016, 3:40 pm

Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh
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Post by Hero Sat 20 Feb 2016, 3:53 pm

That guy on it is desperate for fame on tv, seem him appear on Storage Hunters and Duck Quacks Don't Echo.

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Post by Marky Sat 20 Feb 2016, 5:59 pm

I'm going to have to step back from running things, got a new job as Maintenance Manager of the Customer Information Systems for the Docklands Light Railway in London. Big commute and less time at home so can't really prioritise this league.

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Post by Hero Sat 20 Feb 2016, 6:10 pm

Big congrats on the new job.

I'm sure between us all we can sort injuries/lawyers each week. You've already done the hard bit of sorting the draft out Smile

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Post by BamBam Sat 20 Feb 2016, 7:11 pm

Congrats bud 

Might have already mentioned but I'm currently in the middle of 3 months notice before I can start my new job, so have plenty of time to waste! 

Happy to take a bigger role

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Post by Hero Sat 20 Feb 2016, 8:05 pm

So are the first week of foreigns open?

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Post by Marky Sat 20 Feb 2016, 9:17 pm

Surely not until the date for Week 1 fixtures is set, and Week 1 begins.

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Post by Hero Sat 20 Feb 2016, 9:19 pm

This week I'm ready!

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Post by Marky Sat 20 Feb 2016, 9:22 pm

Me too

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 20 Feb 2016, 9:52 pm

I was born ready
Congrats Marky too

I can do injuries if that helps
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Post by Marky Sun 21 Feb 2016, 3:55 pm

Blimey, 2 of my Man City youth freebies starting today v Chelsea (Manu Garcia and Bersant Celina)

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Post by Fernando Sun 21 Feb 2016, 4:00 pm

Do some Hero style pimping since will probably be only time they play before the end of season.

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Post by Hero Sun 21 Feb 2016, 6:07 pm

I was looking forward to seeing that Celina as had heard a few good things about him, he was nonexistent.

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Post by Hero Sun 21 Feb 2016, 6:09 pm

Payet is looking more and more an astute purchase by Nando.

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Post by Marky Sun 21 Feb 2016, 7:20 pm

Hero wrote:I was looking forward to seeing that Celina as had heard a few good things about him, he was nonexistent.

He scored in the previous round but like a lot of those players they were in too deep today. Not helped by the "experienced" players being awful (Caballero and Demichelis especially bad)

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Post by GSC Sun 21 Feb 2016, 7:42 pm

Mixture of things really. Tactically they were poor, Fabregas had the freedom of Stamford Bridge, even in spotty form you cant give him time.

Chelsea were also really good. Dont know if anyone's signed him, but Traore has looked a useful player in the cameos I've seen.

Lastly, this was probably a step too far for some at this stage of their careers. A few looked overawed
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Post by Fernando Sun 21 Feb 2016, 7:57 pm

Hero wrote:Payet is looking more and more an astute purchase by Nando.


I looked at Ross Barkley then decided i wanted someone who turns up more then 5 times a season.... Whistle

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Post by Afro Sun 21 Feb 2016, 8:02 pm

Fernando wrote:
Hero wrote:Payet is looking more and more an astute purchase by Nando.


I looked at Ross Barkley then decided i wanted someone who turns up more then 5 times a season.... Whistle

You obviously didn't look long enough if that is what you think Barkley has done this season Rolling Eyes
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Post by Fernando Sun 21 Feb 2016, 8:11 pm

Afro wrote:
Fernando wrote:
Hero wrote:Payet is looking more and more an astute purchase by Nando.


I looked at Ross Barkley then decided i wanted someone who turns up more then 5 times a season.... Whistle

You obviously didn't look long enough if that is what you think Barkley has done this season Rolling Eyes

For the price he is, It's not worth the lay out of that kind of money. Sure he has done well this year but not enough for 15.75m. It's just a type English over inflation. He rarely turned up or effected games against the top sides by the looks of his 2 assists vs Chelsea & a goal vs Arsenal but that's it for someone of that price you'd want better. By what i said 5 games was generous Wink angel

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Post by GSC Sun 21 Feb 2016, 8:18 pm

Tbh if Barkley were a new foreign import, he'd be being hyped to the moon.
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Post by Afro Sun 21 Feb 2016, 8:19 pm

Turning up for 5 games or being value for money are two different things, so make your mind up.

You'll be calling him lazy from that bandwagon next.
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Post by Fernando Sun 21 Feb 2016, 8:25 pm

You should be happy i gave him 3 more games then i should of by the looks of it Whistle Unfortunately Afro you could argue for 5 games or value for money. Everton seems to be more reliant of Lukaku & Deulofeu nowadays which probably isn't a good sign for Barkley at the moment.


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Post by Afro Sun 21 Feb 2016, 8:26 pm

Right, okay
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Post by GSC Sun 21 Feb 2016, 8:26 pm

The English tax exists when buying, but in the media people are too afraid to hype any English player these days.

If Raheem Sterling were French or Spanish he'd be a future superstar
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Post by GSC Sun 21 Feb 2016, 8:28 pm

Vice versa, look at Jesus Navas. Highly billed because hes Spanish, comes to England and hes actually not any better than Aaron Lennon. Foreign players are far more hyped than English players.
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Post by GSC Sun 21 Feb 2016, 8:31 pm

Soldados another decent example. Is he really any better than a Defoe type?
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Post by Hero Sun 21 Feb 2016, 8:47 pm

I'd disagree, Dele Alli, Kane and Sterling are thought of as global superstars already, especially in here, everyone calls me for a next big thing that's played one good season yet the same people cream their pants over Dele Alli.

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Post by Hero Sun 21 Feb 2016, 8:48 pm

And just because a player fails to work in a certain team in the Premier League doesn't mean they're not a good player.
Take Chicarito, okay in the Premier League, storming it in the Bundesliga.

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Post by Hero Sun 21 Feb 2016, 8:50 pm

Sterling was placed number 1 prospect in Europe in 2014, so he's certainly been given the 'superstar' tag.

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Post by GSC Sun 21 Feb 2016, 8:53 pm

Dele Alli most definitely is not thought as a global superstar. Kane probably isnt either.
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Post by Hero Sun 21 Feb 2016, 8:58 pm

Marky wrote:
Hero wrote:I was looking forward to seeing that Celina as had heard a few good things about him, he was nonexistent.

He scored in the previous round but like a lot of those players they were in too deep today. Not helped by the "experienced" players being awful (Caballero and Demichelis especially bad)

The English lad Adarabioyo looked like he's got a future, Faupala I quite liked as well, you could tell though that Iheanacho has had a fair few more games for the first team. Like you mentioned though the senior players were the ones that let them down.

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Post by Hero Sun 21 Feb 2016, 9:01 pm

GSC wrote:Dele Alli most definitely is not thought as a global superstar. Kane probably isnt either.

They're certainly well thought of as seen in the already mentioned '23 under 23':

http://www.squawka.com/news/23-under-23-squawkas-search-for-the-best-players-in-world-football-under-the-age-of-23/593370

6 of the 23 are English.
10 of the 23 play in the Premier League.

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