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Ireland to take 2016 Wooden Spoon

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Post by No9 Sun 28 Feb 2016, 5:27 pm

Did Italy play awful or did Scotland step up to the plate... Either way, with Ireland being thumped in the second half by England and having so many injuries, is there a real possibility of them also losing to Italy and Scotland, and hence being this years Wooden Spooners..

I actually think there is..

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Post by majesticimperialman Sun 28 Feb 2016, 5:31 pm

Any thing is possible i guess. But Ireland going from 6ns champions 2 years in a row to being wooden spooners?

I really do not think it likely.

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Post by stub Sun 28 Feb 2016, 5:36 pm

No, I don't think so.

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Post by VinceWLB Sun 28 Feb 2016, 5:46 pm

I thought the unthinkable would be if they cited Brown. How dare would they cite him and overrule the decision made by pointe.

Expecting another retrospective yellow even if a player could have been blinded.

http://www.sportsjoe.ie/rugby/mike-brown-england-ireland-kick-conor-murray-six-nations/67183

Looks even worse on replay.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 28 Feb 2016, 5:49 pm

Murray releases the ball and there's no issue.

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Post by No9 Sun 28 Feb 2016, 5:51 pm

Not engaged in the Brown incident on the other threads, as I could see it becoming the usual posters bickering..

But, my thoughts is it was wreckless and if Brown doesn't get cited for that, he'll be VERY lucky..

I dont expect Brown to be playing any part of the remaining tournament.

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Post by GLove39 Sun 28 Feb 2016, 7:03 pm

Italy will spare them the spoon.

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Post by Seagultaf Sun 28 Feb 2016, 7:05 pm

I expect Ireland to beat both Scotland and Italy, both teams have their moments but Ireland are the stronger side.

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Post by HammerofThunor Mon 29 Feb 2016, 10:06 am

'Could' it happen? Of course. Will it? Probably not.

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Post by fa0019 Mon 29 Feb 2016, 10:10 am

got to lose in Dublin vs. Italy. Can't see it. In Italy it would have been hairy sure but Italy don't travel well.

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Post by offload Mon 29 Feb 2016, 10:13 am

I thought the thread was going to be about England winning a Slam....but thinking about it, I suppose there is more chance of Ireland getting the spoon. Wink
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Post by dummy_half Mon 29 Feb 2016, 10:29 am

Fixtures remaining:
Ireland v Italy
England v Wales
Scotland v France

Wales V Italy
Ireland v Scotland
France v England

Obviously, the winner of England v Wales is almost certainly the Champions
I can see Scotland beating France at Murrayfield. Beating Ireland in Dublin? Not overly likely but wouldn't be a huge shock (I think Scotland have the makings of a good side, but need greater confidence, which will only come from improved results).
Italy beating Ireland in Dublin? Not for me - I can see another game like Italy v France or England, where they are right in the mix to about 60 minutes but just can't hold on.

Conclusion:
Winner of England v Wales to win the title
Other as the runner up
Ireland to finish 3rd with 2-2-1 record
France and Scotland to finish with 2 wins apiece
Italy trailing in with no wins

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Post by Hazel Sapling Mon 29 Feb 2016, 11:47 am

If Scotland beat France then I fancy them to beat Ireland (who look devoid of leadership and are refreshing their team). Confidence would be sky high and that Ireland tight 5 should get ruined by Scotland's barring injuries.

Big game is against Italy. It is in Dublin though so Ireland should win. I would say it is not implausible. Can see a situation where Parisse and Campagnero carry their team to a win over a demoralised Ireland. 80-20 that Ireland do not have the wooden spoon.

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Post by SneakySideStep Wed 02 Mar 2016, 12:44 pm

With a bit more luck and composure, we could easily be sat here discussing Ireland being 3 wins out of 3. As it is things have tilted against them and they're not in a pretty position. That doesn't make them a bad side though so I'd be very surprised if they come unstuck in both the last 2 games to "win" the wooden spoon

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Post by Cyril Wed 02 Mar 2016, 12:49 pm

Ireland should win their remaining two games pretty comfortably, especially as they are both at home.

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Post by Blueschief Wed 02 Mar 2016, 12:54 pm

Can't see Ireland getting the wooden spoon although I can see Scotland winning in Dublin. Think the issue for the Scots is fitness. They seem to lose games in the last 15. - 20 mins, sort that and the confidence to shut out games will come.

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Post by Tattie Scones RRN Wed 02 Mar 2016, 1:23 pm

Blueschief wrote:Can't see Ireland getting the wooden spoon although I can see Scotland winning in Dublin. Think the issue for the Scots is fitness. They seem to lose games in the last 15. - 20 mins, sort that and the confidence to shut out games will come.

Apart from the last one.

Or against Japan, USA or Samoa.

Apart from that, yeah.

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Post by Blueschief Wed 02 Mar 2016, 1:27 pm

Hmm yeh your probably right Tattie, it's a difficult one, I really rate this Scotland side, and can't understand it. Maybe Fox Mulder could figure it out.

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Post by Tattie Scones RRN Wed 02 Mar 2016, 2:16 pm

Blueschief wrote:Hmm yeh your probably right Tattie, it's a difficult one, I really rate this Scotland side, and can't understand it. Maybe Fox Mulder could figure it out.

Step too far even for him Blues.

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Post by funnyExiledScot Wed 02 Mar 2016, 2:49 pm

Ireland will be too good for Italy. If we managed to take the Italian defence to town, then Sexton, Henshaw et al surely will.

Given the scoreline the last time Ireland faced Scotland, I would be astonished if we managed to turn that around in Dublin.

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Post by Shifty Wed 02 Mar 2016, 3:17 pm

Ireland will beat both Scotland and Italy, so they will be fine.
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Post by rodders Wed 02 Mar 2016, 3:22 pm

Yes, nothing unthinkable about it. I don't think we will lose both but can see Scotland winning in Dublin.
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Post by profitius Wed 02 Mar 2016, 10:52 pm

I wouldn't be confident of beating Scotland. They play a nice brand of rugby and at present they have a stronger tight 5. Ireland just cannot score tries at the moment and if that continues, they'll struggle to win any game.


Schmidt's team selection could be the deciding factor.


Italy could also be close than people think though I would be fairly confident of an Ireland win there.
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Post by Gwlad Thu 03 Mar 2016, 2:55 am

Coming into 2016 i believed the unthinkable could never happen….but since i am now certain that Trump will be Pres because mr and mrs average Americans would rather a red neck sociopath bigot than a Liberal snob female, I am also fairly sure Scots will beat Ireland and i think even Italy could push them close. Sorry Irelanders.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 03 Mar 2016, 12:34 pm

Trump's far from a redneck. He's from the East Coast and was born into wealth.

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Post by mikey_dragon Thu 03 Mar 2016, 1:34 pm

I don't get why some Brits are so obsessed with talking about Trump all the time - that petition to ban him from entering the UK was stupid and very hypocritical. His name keeps popping up on the rugby forum lately and it's beginning to bug me.

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Post by the-goon Thu 03 Mar 2016, 2:15 pm

Lefties hate Trump because he is immune to their only debating tactic when it comes to any political topic. Undermine arguments using personal insults/shame the opposition into silence by shouting racist, sexist, bigot etc. Ironically it's the very definition of bigotry.

Anyway back to rugby... I think Ireland will win their last 2 games. They won't be that high scoring, as we are still developing our attacking style. Our defense has been resolute despite being passive, so I don't think either team will find it easy to score against us.


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Post by Tattie Scones RRN Thu 03 Mar 2016, 4:37 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:I don't get why some Brits are so obsessed with talking about Trump all the time - that petition to ban him from entering the UK was stupid and very hypocritical. His name keeps popping up on the rugby forum lately and it's beginning to bug me.

Donald Trump.

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Post by westisbest Thu 03 Mar 2016, 4:45 pm

I think we will beat Italy, can see us losing to Scotland, will be an interesting final game.

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Post by Guest Thu 03 Mar 2016, 8:22 pm

Tattie Scones RRN wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:I don't get why some Brits are so obsessed with talking about Trump all the time - that petition to ban him from entering the UK was stupid and very hypocritical. His name keeps popping up on the rugby forum lately and it's beginning to bug me.

Donald Trump.

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Post by Gwlad Thu 03 Mar 2016, 10:59 pm

Tattie Scones RRN wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:I don't get why some Brits are so obsessed with talking about Trump all the time - that petition to ban him from entering the UK was stupid and very hypocritical. His name keeps popping up on the rugby forum lately and it's beginning to bug me.

Donald Trump.


Trump Trump Trump

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Post by Hoonercat Thu 03 Mar 2016, 11:24 pm

Ireland won't get the wooden spoon, they've yet to play their trump card.

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Post by Gwlad Thu 03 Mar 2016, 11:42 pm

Hoonercat wrote:Ireland won't get the wooden spoon, they've yet to play their trump card.

Nellie the elephant is going to the game….

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Post by Cyril Thu 03 Mar 2016, 11:48 pm

Gwlad's views would make Trump cringe.

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Post by profitius Fri 04 Mar 2016, 12:37 am

I'd love Trump to win but I think the elites will stop him. Look at the smear campaign against him in the world media. His views are anti communist, which makes him a threat to the elites, plus he is a billionaire so brown envelopes under the table are not much use to him.
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Post by Gwlad Fri 04 Mar 2016, 12:40 am

Cyril wrote:Gwlad's views would make Trump cringe.

Especially my opinions of Cyril.

Funny but when i picture you Cyril the combover is always what springs to mind.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Fri 04 Mar 2016, 8:30 am

The unthinkable's happened people like Trump! I was interested to hear that his ex wife said under affidavit that he raped her, before eventually saying she got confused and now won't speak of it. Or when he said he'd like to date his daughter if he weren't related to her. The guy is teflon, like Gatland on a Lions tour.

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Post by Barney McGrew did it Fri 04 Mar 2016, 9:09 am

Nah, the CIA/Mafia will take him out - can you imagine Trump with his fat finger on the nuclear button. Goodbye cruel world. He's probably press it thinking he was summoning the butler.
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Post by Hoonercat Fri 04 Mar 2016, 10:36 am

the-goon wrote:Anyone with even a little common sense hates Trump because

Fixed it for you thumbsup

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Post by lostinwales Fri 04 Mar 2016, 11:16 am

Barney McGrew did it wrote:Nah, the CIA/Mafia will take him out - can you imagine Trump with his fat finger on the nuclear button. Goodbye cruel world. He's probably press it thinking he was summoning the butler.

As someone at work pointed out. Trump in the USA, Putin in Russia and us stuck in the middle...

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Post by mikey_dragon Fri 04 Mar 2016, 11:47 am

the-goon wrote:Lefties hate Trump because he is immune to their only debating tactic when it comes to any political topic. Undermine arguments using personal insults/shame the opposition into silence by shouting racist, sexist, bigot etc. Ironically it's the very definition of bigotry.  

Yep, that's liberal politicians for you. Funnily enough what you've said here is similar to trying to discuss rugby with some English posters on V2.

Anyway I see this thread took a turn for the worst, so this hashtag is for all you; #Trump4President

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Fri 04 Mar 2016, 11:53 am

profitius wrote:I'd love Trump to win... His views are anti communist, which makes him a threat to the elites

Since when are there communist elites?

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Post by the-goon Fri 04 Mar 2016, 12:41 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:
profitius wrote:I'd love Trump to win... His views are anti communist, which makes him a threat to the elites

Since when are there communist elites?

Communism centralizes all power into the hands of a tiny group of elites. Sounds quite attractive if you are part of that club.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Fri 04 Mar 2016, 12:45 pm

These communist elites haven't done a very good job of stopping the spread of capitalism.

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