Wales No 10

Ok, I'm an Osprey and a fan of Biggar.. I still think he's a brilliant 10, but on Saturday he had a nightmare, and little opportunity to kick for the posts.

I actually think, Priestland opened the game when he came on, as he has done in previous games.

So, the poll says it all.. Biggar, Preistland, Anscome, Morgan or A N Other to fly half for Italy game.. (Of course A N Other, you should at least say who.. ).

for the record.. Italy game is a dead rubber.. I think we need to look for some magic, and would put Matthew Morgan in at 10, with Priestland on the bench incase it goes wrong..

Would rest Biggar, I think he needs it.

I don't agree that Biggar had a nightmare, but he didn't play well. Hard to when the set piece was awful, the front five non existent, the back row absent from the breakdown and everything on the back foot.

Priestland didn't open the game up, it had opened up when he came on and the whole game for the last 15 mins was played more in broken field. Saying that, he did well.

I might be tempted to play Morgan at wing or FB against Italy. I would start Biggar at 10.

Matthew Morgan is not the answer at ten. We shouldn't disrespect the Italians by picking players like that either.

Biggar at ten for me. With Webb at 9 this week.

I am a fan of Priestland, but I think that if Biggar is the man in possession of the shirt he should be given the same amount of decency from the Coaches as Priest was given. Rhys was allowed to carry on as the first choice fly half after he had some mares, and IMO it s only fair to allow Biggar the chance to show what he can do when trying to recover from a lesser performance than his normal for us internationally. Also whilst I really rate Davies as a scrum half and I do honestly believe he is our best scrum half at the moment, I do think it would not hurt to put Webb back in. Play with Webb and Biggar for the first 40-50, and then give Cawdor and Priest the last 30-40.

Matthew Morgan should never play international rugby at 10. he would just run side to side.

Biggar should play with Anscombe as his replacement.

Biggar, Priestland on the bench to come on and play flat(ter than Biggar) for the last 20.

Agree with posters above who have said Webb to start, no-brainer for me, he clears the breakdown before Davies has even had a look where he's passing. Bring Davies and Priestland on towards the end against the tiring italians (they have fatigued badly in each game) and open it up.

I'd put Matthew Morgan on the wing, his defence cant be worse than Cuthberts, lets be honest.

I've never understood why nobody has played him at wing. He can't control a game or defend so you don't want him in the middle of the action but hes got incredible acceleration and a good step and he'd be hard to stop one on one.

Shane started at scrumhalf.........

like I said, if our wingers were chopping men down or finishing tries off, or frankly doing the basics right (Tom James/Cuthbert looking at you pair) then I wouldnt bother, realisticially we have nothing to lose and hes proved before he wont shy away from tackling (Fiji in the world cup).

Italy on their way to that wooden spoon, why not.

Comfort wrote:Shane started at scrumhalf.........

like I said, if our wingers were chopping men down or finishing tries off, or frankly doing the basics right (Tom James/Cuthbert looking at you pair) then I wouldnt bother, realisticially we have nothing to lose and hes proved before he wont shy away from tackling (Fiji in the world cup).

Italy on their way to that wooden spoon, why not.

Because Amos is ahead of him in the pecking order, surely?

Isn't MM primarily a 15 these days

Before the game with England i would have said Biggar to start and Priestland on the bench.


But when Priestland came on the team seemed to play better, faster. so maybe Priestland to start and Biggar on the bench.

Patchell to start at 10 then shift him to full back after 60mins.

Priestland and Sam Davies to have a half each.Also consider Biggar and Priestland at inside centre.

Biggar is by far the best 10 you guys have got. Preistland is not bad at all but a whole step below bigger in class.

I say start the same team and carry on. The players deserve a chance to prove that they are better than their last game.

Subs will get their chance to step up the level when they come on.

Biggar with Anscombe and Priestland on the bench.

maestegmafia wrote:I say start the same team and carry on. The players deserve a chance to prove that they are better than their last game.

How badly do some players have to play before they're dropped?!

But dropping Biggar based on one performance is an over reaction. It was only a few months ago he was up there with Sexton as best in Europe.

I wouldn't drop Biggar, I'm on about Baldwin and Cuthbert.

My mistake, yeah i agree with you on those two. Not sure why Ken Owens hasn't had more starts for Wales

No9 wrote:Ok, I'm an Osprey and a fan of Biggar.. I still think he's a brilliant 10, but on Saturday he had a nightmare, and little opportunity to kick for the posts.

I actually think, Priestland opened the game when he came on, as he has done in previous games.

So, the poll says it all.. Biggar, Preistland, Anscome, Morgan or A N Other to fly half for Italy game.. (Of course A N Other, you should at least say who.. ).

He had a poor first 40 minutes, as did the rest of the Welsh XV, but I thought he did more than any other player to haul Wales back into contention in the second half. When Priestland came on Wales were on fire. He wasn't the catalyst, he was the beneficiary.

Lee, AWJ, Warburton, Faletau, Biggar, Roberts and North. That's the core of this Welsh team. I say don't mess.

Biggar gets the selection

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:I say start the same team and carry on. The players deserve a chance to prove that they are better than their last game.

How badly do some players have to play before they're dropped?!

Agree. Think it's partly this mentality that holds Wales back, where Gatland tends to let them "right the wrongs of last week", instead of making necessary changes.

If Owen Williams can ever stay fit I would love him to be given a crack.

We know what Biggar can do. We know that Priest is not cut out for international rugby. This was the ideal opportunity to start Anscombe in what is near the first choice XV, it's a big selection blunder IMO, one of many throughout his tenure.

bedfordwelsh wrote:If Owen Williams can ever stay fit I would love him to be given a crack.

I know Macarena is a bit effeminate, what with his pre-kick dance and all, but is a sex change for Owen really necessary?

Jimpy wrote:

bedfordwelsh wrote:If Owen Williams can ever stay fit I would love him to be given a crack.

I know Macarena is a bit effeminate, what with his pre-kick dance and all, but is a sex change for Owen really necessary?

Fnarr, fnarr!

mikey_dragon wrote:We know what Biggar can do. We know that Priest is not cut out for international rugby. This was the ideal opportunity to start Anscombe in what is near the first choice XV, it's a big selection blunder IMO, one of many throughout his tenure.

You really think this selection is absurd as your statement attests?

maestegmafia wrote:

mikey_dragon wrote:We know what Biggar can do. We know that Priest is not cut out for international rugby. This was the ideal opportunity to start Anscombe in what is near the first choice XV, it's a big selection blunder IMO, one of many throughout his tenure.

You really think this selection is absurd as your statement attests?

Yes.

mikey_dragon wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:

mikey_dragon wrote:We know what Biggar can do. We know that Priest is not cut out for international rugby. This was the ideal opportunity to start Anscombe in what is near the first choice XV, it's a big selection blunder IMO, one of many throughout his tenure.

You really think this selection is absurd as your statement attests?

Yes.

Wow..!

maestegmafia wrote:

mikey_dragon wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:

mikey_dragon wrote:We know what Biggar can do. We know that Priest is not cut out for international rugby. This was the ideal opportunity to start Anscombe in what is near the first choice XV, it's a big selection blunder IMO, one of many throughout his tenure.

You really think this selection is absurd as your statement attests?

Yes.

Wow..!

Keep burying your head in the sand maes with your "give the team another chance" approach. That'll put us in good stead down in NZ!

Feel there's a fair bit of overreaction going on regarding Biggar's performance. Yes Saturday's performance was forgettable but you can't just single him out when virtually the entire XV were shambolic for the vast majority of the game. The first-up tackling was shiite (no kinder way to put it), as were the number of handling errors and penalties conceded.

I disagree that Priestland was responsible for the game opening up. If anything that was more the work of a certain Rhys Webb. The team in general just seemed to treble their intensity and urgency a few minutes too late.

I think the whole Welsh world and his /her dog would like to see what Anscombe can do. Priest did OK as sub FB in the WC so make him the utility back and give Anscombe 30 after Biggar

Agree, we know what Priestland can do, however, Anscombe will be the incumbent 10 at Cardiff next season, I would rather wait and see how he does at 10 for his club before we decide if he's good enough to oust Priestland as the benched 10 next season.

Knowsit17 wrote:Feel there's a fair bit of overreaction going on regarding Biggar's any Welsh #10 when we've lost in the last 40 years, performance (But especially Priestland   ). Yes Saturday's performance was forgettable but you can't just single him out when virtually the entire XV were shambolic for the vast majority of the game. The first-up tackling was shiite (no kinder way to put it), as were the number of handling errors and penalties conceded.

I disagree that Priestland was responsible for the game opening up. If anything that was more the work of a certain Rhys Webb. The team in general just seemed to treble their intensity and urgency a few minutes too late.

Fixed that for you Knowsit

I don't think I've heard any criticism of Biggar after last Saturday. We had so little usable ball / field position in the first half, and you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Kicked a pen to Brown amongst other errors