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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Wed 06 Apr 2016, 10:55 pm

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Surprised there's no chat about this weekend's title fight.

Interesting for a number of reasons. I don't view Martin as a valid champion. Winning the belt in a bizarre fight that only happened because they stripped Fury. Didn't think he looked great against Glazkov for as long as that lasted and there's nothing in his record that stands out.

Still it should present AJ's biggest test yet. He's big enough and on paper has more experience than AJ. However I reckon AJ takes this without too many problems. I think he'll have learned a lot from the Whyte fight. AJ within 6 rounds for me. Martin to retreat into his she'll the first time he feels AJ'S power then it's only a matter of time.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:14 pm

It is a 10-8 round but that was pretty much all the major success he had in the fight, didn't press matters after that instead he sat back and admired any little success he had thereafter. You've got to throw punches to win rounds.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:19 pm

I gave him some other rounds that were close because of the quality of his shots

Sounds like I need to watch it

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Post by Knowsit17 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:21 pm

Don't recall the last time someone on their debut got so much hype. Amir Khan maybe.

Makes you wonder whether anyone will look back at all this premature excitement if Benn gets found out early doors and ends up being an ordinary chip off a great block ala Ronald Hearns and Chavez Jr.

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Post by Rowley Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:34 pm

I don't like George Groves. Nothing more to add than that.

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Post by Jermaine2015 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:38 pm

George Groves would beat the hell out of Felix Sturm(WBA belt holder), if Sauerland takes Groves down that route. Never understood why Groves never fought Abraham

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:39 pm

Rowley wrote:I don't like George Groves. Nothing more to add than that.

Third best super middle in Britain..and still with delusions of grandeur..

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:40 pm

If only he was more like Adrien Broner.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:41 pm

You're boring Hammer....

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:43 pm

Main event not started I take it and it's near 11pm......Never got that back home...

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Post by Rowley Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:43 pm

Whingiest fighter in Britain. Nothing is ever his fault. Talks like was it not for bad luck he'd be sugar ray Robinson. I'd so dearly love to see De Gale beat him.

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Post by ShahenshahG Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:44 pm

Rowley wrote:Whingiest fighter in Britain. Nothing is ever his fault.  Talks like was it not for bad luck he'd be sugar ray Robinson. I'd so dearly love to see De Gale beat him.
this shall be preserved for eternity.

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Post by Jermaine2015 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:44 pm

Rowley wrote:Whingiest fighter in Britain. Nothing is ever his fault.  Talks like was it not for bad luck he'd be sugar ray Robinson. I'd so dearly love to see De Gale beat him.
DeGale's been beaten twice by Groves...

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:44 pm

I still am a huge fan of groves

Nothing more to add

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:46 pm

Jermaine2015 wrote:
Rowley wrote:Whingiest fighter in Britain. Nothing is ever his fault.  Talks like was it not for bad luck he'd be sugar ray Robinson. I'd so dearly love to see De Gale beat him.
DeGale's been beaten twice by Groves...

Henry Tillman beat Mike Tyson...

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:48 pm

Langer is second in the masters....It could be a night of surprises.......

Martin may last till the 3rd !!! Cool

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Post by ShahenshahG Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:48 pm

Then you'll get milkyboy of the future tearing you a new a*sehole as haz of the future quotes you to support (in reality to tell him what to to think) his argument.

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Post by Rowley Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:51 pm

Jermaine2015 wrote:
Rowley wrote:Whingiest fighter in Britain. Nothing is ever his fault.  Talks like was it not for bad luck he'd be sugar ray Robinson. I'd so dearly love to see De Gale beat him.
DeGale's been beaten twice by Groves...

Thanks, are there any other things I already know you want to point out to me?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:53 pm

Rowley wrote:
Jermaine2015 wrote:
Rowley wrote:Whingiest fighter in Britain. Nothing is ever his fault.  Talks like was it not for bad luck he'd be sugar ray Robinson. I'd so dearly love to see De Gale beat him.
DeGale's been beaten twice by Groves...

Thanks, are there any other things I already know you want to point out to me?

Too tempting..... Cool

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Post by Rowley Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:55 pm

Don't fight it truss, fill your boots.

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Post by Dipper Brown Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:56 pm

I like Groves. I went to the Froch Kessler fight at the O2 with him on the undercard, as soon as my bum touched the seat he knocked out his opponent. Seen him throw one punch live and it was a knockout. Incredible percentage, that is! GGG eat your heart out!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:57 pm

Sad to say I enjoy your offerings as seldom as they are..Rowlo..

However I feel sorry for little Alex....Being kept up till past eleven..

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Post by djkbrown2001 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:58 pm

AJ to stop him in 4.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 10:59 pm

Joshua in the first round. 9/1, that's tempting!

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Post by ShahenshahG Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:01 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Sad to say I enjoy your offerings as seldom as they are..Rowlo..

However I feel sorry for little Alex....Being kept up till past eleven..

It's Sunday tommorow, he'd love to have a legitimate reason not to go to church (and be stared at by a statue of christ) while his pockets are bulging with Ill gotten gains.

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Post by djkbrown2001 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:02 pm

Boxing is healthy in Britain. It should go back to the BBC. That will even spark more interest

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:02 pm

Duty281 wrote:Joshua in the first round. 9/1, that's tempting!

Duty..... The British answer to John Wayne..

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:02 pm

Duty281 wrote:Joshua in the first round. 9/1, that's tempting!

I've for the second round at 7/1.

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Post by ShahenshahG Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:06 pm

There's a blast from the past. Whatever happened to John bloody wayne. He was a funny b*stard

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Post by milkyboy Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:07 pm

Well I'm not normally a betting man, but I've taken £10 on Joshua in 1. Then taken advantage of paddy power's 3x£10 bets for Joshua in 2,3 and 4.

So I recommend the smart money to be on Joshua in 5.

Or Martin on points!


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Post by Pound-for-Pound Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:09 pm

Last time Joshua fought a southpaw was in the Olympics against the Italian and I think the Cuban too and he walked onto a lot of shots and got quite lucky to get the decisions. If he fights like that tonight he'll be put on his back.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:11 pm

At least If Martin did win he'd be able to get out of the ring in one piece....

One thing we don't miss from the 80s...Hey Marv !!.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:14 pm

The crowd during Golota and Bowe were a delight in America weren't they.

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Post by milkyboy Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:15 pm

I'd like to add that I'm not a fan of groves or degale.

I do have more to add though. I have a much stronger dislike for degale.

Ps, I hate Froch more than both of them.

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Post by Jermaine2015 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:18 pm

Martin seems far too slow

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:19 pm

milkyboy wrote:I'd like to add that I'm not a fan of groves or degale.

I do have more to add though. I have a much stronger dislike for degale.

Ps, I hate Froch more than both of them.

I've nothing more to add to Milky's quote..

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:20 pm

That will do very nicely, much more controlled performace.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:20 pm

Nevermind.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:20 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Joshua in the first round. 9/1, that's tempting!

I've for the second round at 7/1.

Well played. clap

It was never going to last too long!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:21 pm

Congratulations to Joshua......Like to see him win all the titles which he surely will eventually.

But I imagine Eddie has other plans..

A good heavy......Britain should be proud..

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Post by Mr Bounce Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:21 pm

Bang. Goodnight.

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Post by djkbrown2001 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:22 pm

Well done hammers. 7/1 tidy pay day.

Martin the worst HW ever

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Post by djkbrown2001 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:23 pm

Time for wilder and AJ.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:23 pm

The worst HW ever....You mean champion..

No one will ever be as bad as Valuev for me..

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:23 pm

I'm pleased for AJ but it's a bit of a joke that Martin was a belt holder in the first place, a candidate for worst champion ever.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:24 pm

Hearn in fairness struck while the iron was hot..

Got Martin first..

He's a wily promoter..

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Post by djkbrown2001 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:24 pm

I meant Worst HW champion. Mea culpa.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:25 pm

What's the drug testing situation for this fight?

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Post by milkyboy Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:26 pm

my first bet was actually for round 2, so i chucked away my 3 free bets on rounds 1,3 and 4. Never did have the courage of my convictions. A few quid up though, so thanks to paddy power and their free bet offer, without which i wouldn't have bet anything.

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Post by milkyboy Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:28 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
milkyboy wrote:I'd like to add that I'm not a fan of groves or degale.

I do have more to add though. I have a much stronger dislike for degale.

Ps, I hate Froch more than both of them.

I've nothing more to add to Milky's quote..

And I have nothing more to add to Truss adding nothing more to my quote

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 09 Apr 2016, 11:28 pm

Pound-for-Pound wrote:What's the drug testing situation for this fight?

Sore loser are we ??...

Martin was turd it pains me to say....Heavy Boxing needs Joshua types. Aesthetic, decent technique..Power.

He'd have done okay in other eras....He'll clean up in this one..

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