Khan TBE Brit

If Khan manages to pull off an upset against Canelo then he could probably be forgiven for having a voluntary. Prescott would be perfect. Follow that up by avenging the Garcia loss and then cash in with Brook.

To be honest, the Canelo fight looks to be a mismatch, but unlike all his previous fights you would think that he knows not to trade with him and I can see Khan landing more shots than Canelo albeit not as hard as the ones he will be receiving.
Prescott would love a payday. Garcia and Brook are winnable.

If Khan took this route successfully, would there be many Brits ahead of him in the all time rankings?

Bredis Prescott for a voluntary? Prescott has gone 9-7 since he fought Khan and his last two opponents had a combined record of 17 wins, 19 losses and two draws. If Khan were to beat Canelo and then opted to fight Prescott he would deserve all the scorn he would get.

If, Khan were to beat Canelo, fights with Pacquiao, a return with Canelo would be better options for him than Prescott and maybe even Brook. And even if he beat Canelo, Pacquiao and Brook, I'd still rate Lennox Lewis above him in a British ranking for TBE.

No. One swallow doesn't make a summer.

Khan is already up there with the best ever from this country but I think he would need to beat Fury and Joshua to be considered the best ever due to the fact there are some who have achieved far more.

I just can't see it happening...he won't beat Canelo

He has some bottle though

Prescott has become a journeyman since he sparked Khan years ago. Fighting him now would prove and accomplish absolutely nothing. Bit like if Calzaghe came out of retirement to set up a fight with the last guy who beat him (in the amateurs).

If Khan beat Alvarez, Garcia and Brook would there be many Brits ahead in the all time rankings? Yes, legions. Those three names simply aren't enough to propel Khan anywhere near that label. To be within a stone's throw he'd more or less have to beat Floyd.

Must be the most talented. Nobody ever out boxed him.

BoxingFan88 wrote:I just can't see it happening...he won't beat Canelo

He has some bottle though

More like he has some deluded sense of his own ability

Perhaps he is just greedy for a pay cheque. Plus getting splattered by Canelo is much better for his inflated ego, than Brook giving him a hiding.

After Canelo chins him, he will have his excuse ready when Brook chins him.

Isn't ranking fighters whose career is finished overdone enough without hypothetical 4 fight winning streaks too?

AdamT wrote:Must be the most talented. Nobody ever out boxed him.

You're kidding. Without thinking too hard, how about Buchanan, Benny Lynch, Hamed etc.

Eyetoldyouso wrote:

AdamT wrote:Must be the most talented. Nobody ever out boxed him.

You're kidding. Without thinking too hard, how about Buchanan, Benny Lynch, Hamed etc.

Sarcasm my friend.

Granted, a Prescott rematch is a bit silly but it now seems the generally accepted norm to take a relatively easy fight after a big fight.
Also looking at it from the perspective of avenging the losses on his record.

Breidis Prescott and Lamont Peterson - on the same night. Now that might be interesting.

Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake wrote:

BoxingFan88 wrote:I just can't see it happening...he won't beat Canelo

He has some bottle though

More like he has some deluded sense of his own ability

Be nice if Floyd (the self proclaimed best ever) had agreed to jump up two weights and fight the "Champion" even if it was at a catchweight. It would of course mean Floyd fighting GGG which to my way of thinking would put Mayweather somewhere near the bracket of Robinson when he took on Maxim at LH.

Just saying Mayweather appears to have adopted the Homer Simpson approach namely "Trying is the first step towards failure"

Khans fighting for a cheque Dave. He will use the weight excuse when he is beat and step down to fight Brook for more money.

McGregor is doing the same thing in mma.

It's smart business. If he pulls off The miracle, he will make a fortune. He might get a chance to play tig with Floyd over 12 rounds, 15 million squid.

Does Khan mind getting paid in squid? And are there enough out there to meet the requirement?

I think he would take anything, as long as he can transfer it for good old sterling. The kids all about money.

AdamT wrote:I think he would take anything, as long as he can transfer it for good old sterling. The kids all about money.

Who isn't? Haye, who is supposedly earning a title shot? Frampton, who would rather give up belt than challenge for the championship? Brooke, who won't fight anyone with a pulse?
Good luck to Khan, he deserves his money, at least he wants to fight for it.

Khan taking on a champion 2 weights above and people second guessing his motives, implying he's afraid of a less talented, lighter hitting boxer 13lbs lighter. Get real.

Some people just thrive on negativity.

In all seriousness I would bet my right nut, that Haymon and co has promised Khan Floyd, if he beats Canelo. Also with a career high pay day and nothing to lose, why not try.

If/when he loses, he can fight Garcia or Brook. It's a shrewd move from.

AdamT wrote:In all seriousness I would bet my right nut, that Haymon and co has promised Khan Floyd, if he beats Canelo. Also with a career high pay day and nothing to lose, why not try.

If/when he loses, he can fight Garcia or Brook. It's a shrewd move from.

I expect you would lose that right nut.

Haymon wouldn't be in a position to promise Khan Mayweather because Mayweather would likely do whatever he wants. Look at the vote Mayweather previously arranged on who should fight him next, Khan won that vote and Mayweather chose to fight the other guy anyway....twice!

Mayweather does what he wants, not what anyone else wants.

Yes I know that. But if Khan beat Canelo, he would become a star. Mayweather has probably already discreetly stated he would fight the winner.

Anyway Canelo will beat him, so won't matter.

Floyd will come back either for Pacquiao or Canelo. He is not staying retired.

AdamT wrote:Yes I know that. But if Khan beat Canelo, he would become a star. Mayweather has probably already discreetly stated he would fight the winner.

Anyway Canelo will beat him, so won't matter.

Floyd will come back either for Pacquiao or Canelo. He is not staying retired.

Floyd will fight the winner.....as long as that winner is Canelo who he's already beaten comfortably. Say Khan wins, does Mayweather want to be ar$ed fighting someone who has been able to employ a similar skillset to his own and risk losing? Does he f*ck! Floyd for all his bullsh!t about being the best ever is not willing to put it all on the line. Like I said, years past his best, SRR was willing to fight a good if not great LH in Joey Maxim and would have done it if it weren't for that pesky heat and humidity. For parity, Mayweather would have to be willing to jump up from WW to MW to fight GGG and win, for him to be considered even remotely close to SRR and even then Mayweather doesn't have the longevity or the dominance to be above him.


Anyone considering Floyd to be better than SRR has quite simply never heard of SRR

He definitely isn't better than SRR. Different sport now. Nobody will ever achieve that level.

Robinson had as many fights as Floyd has sparring sessions. Different era then.

However I do think Floyd is the best fighter in the last 20 years.

Whilst Robinson is streets ahead of Mayweather, the total number of fights is a bit of a red herring and one that favours the old timers every time, if we looked at number of meaningful fights we'd get a far better comparison. Chavez fought over 100 times for instance as did Duran but their records are littered with tune ups and quick busy fights, if we strip out the garbage you're left with about 40 fights for Chavez and not much less for Duran, would think the number would be similar for Robinson.

Floyd can't actually fight Robinson though can he? Stay retired. Nothing to add to his legacy. People's minds are made up about Floyd, not that he should or does care.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Whilst Robinson is streets ahead of Mayweather, the total number of fights is a bit of a red herring and one that favours the old timers every time, if we looked at number of meaningful fights we'd get a far better comparison. Chavez fought over 100 times for instance as did Duran but their records are littered with tune ups and quick busy fights, if we strip out the garbage you're left with about 40 fights for Chavez and not much less for Duran, would think the number would be similar for Robinson.

So if we consider that Robinson really had 40 fights, and lost 19, he's basically a journeyman.

You also discount the last 50 fights of his career entirely, the only losses of real relevance were to LaMotta and Turpin.

May as well ignore his amateur career as well as they were really only practice fights and as such count for nothing

Hammersmith harrier wrote:You also discount the last 50 fights of his career entirely, the only losses of real relevance were to LaMotta and Turpin.

Maybe but would people ignore a Mayweather defeat now at 39 years of age?

Completely different standards and we should stop comparing eras.

They probably wouldn't no, the number of fights would be used as factor, he's only had 50 fights so he's a young 39 but Robinson had 200 so he was an old 39 etc. etc.

Would anybody take it seriously if Mayweather of any top boxer went on a tour of Europe fighting the likes of Bundu, Skeete, Branco, Massoudi and others.

We all enjoy comparing eras. It is fun. But realistically it is a far different sport now, than all them decades ago.

Robinson is the greatest, but Floyd has earned his right to call himself the best. He should at least be in the conversation. When the decades pass, people will look back on Floyd and Manny in awe.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:They probably wouldn't no, the number of fights would be used as factor, he's only had 50 fights so he's a young 39 but Robinson had 200 so he was an old 39 etc. etc.

Would anybody take it seriously if Mayweather of any top boxer went on a tour of Europe fighting the likes of Bundu, Skeete, Branco, Massoudi and others.

More seriously than they would if Mayweather just went on tour talking about him-f*cking-self and charging £2k for the privilege. As for SRR's Euro tour, he did it cos he was skint as he had a lifestyle and entourage that made Mayweather look like Billy no-mates.

Khan doesn't seem active enough and over the past few years he has been knocked out and had two consecutive losses. He seems to be slowly building again, but rather too slowly. Jul 2009 to end of 2011, a two and a half year period, were his best years perhaps.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Whilst Robinson is streets ahead of Mayweather, the total number of fights is a bit of a red herring and one that favours the old timers every time, if we looked at number of meaningful fights we'd get a far better comparison. Chavez fought over 100 times for instance as did Duran but their records are littered with tune ups and quick busy fights, if we strip out the garbage you're left with about 40 fights for Chavez and not much less for Duran, would think the number would be similar for Robinson.

But todays fighters also have keep busy and tune up fights....

huw wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Whilst Robinson is streets ahead of Mayweather, the total number of fights is a bit of a red herring and one that favours the old timers every time, if we looked at number of meaningful fights we'd get a far better comparison. Chavez fought over 100 times for instance as did Duran but their records are littered with tune ups and quick busy fights, if we strip out the garbage you're left with about 40 fights for Chavez and not much less for Duran, would think the number would be similar for Robinson.

But todays fighters also have keep busy and tune up fights....

Best example I can think of in recent times is of Canelo deciding to fight Khan

Coxy001 wrote:

huw wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Whilst Robinson is streets ahead of Mayweather, the total number of fights is a bit of a red herring and one that favours the old timers every time, if we looked at number of meaningful fights we'd get a far better comparison. Chavez fought over 100 times for instance as did Duran but their records are littered with tune ups and quick busy fights, if we strip out the garbage you're left with about 40 fights for Chavez and not much less for Duran, would think the number would be similar for Robinson.

But todays fighters also have keep busy and tune up fights....

Best example I can think of in recent times is of Canelo deciding to fight Khan

Tell me one time when Khan has been outboxed??

AdamT wrote:

Coxy001 wrote:

huw wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Whilst Robinson is streets ahead of Mayweather, the total number of fights is a bit of a red herring and one that favours the old timers every time, if we looked at number of meaningful fights we'd get a far better comparison. Chavez fought over 100 times for instance as did Duran but their records are littered with tune ups and quick busy fights, if we strip out the garbage you're left with about 40 fights for Chavez and not much less for Duran, would think the number would be similar for Robinson.

But todays fighters also have keep busy and tune up fights....

Best example I can think of in recent times is of Canelo deciding to fight Khan

Tell me one time when Khan has been outboxed??

When he didn't land a glove on Prescott in the 30 seconds it lasted and got battered and dropped twice? Got outboxed and flattened.

Can't come back with "no I didn't mean it like that" as it ain't my fault you've asked a poorly constructed question.

He was outboxing Prescott and Garcia. Did you not see the mystical speed??

So in conclusion......

GGG fights stiffs and everybody loves it........Khan takes a fight with a much bigger bruiser who is a huge favorite and Khan is a t**t...

Righto...

You love Joshua and he fights stiffs.

GGG wants the best middleweights. Not his fault they are afraid. Khan is chasing the dollar.

AdamT wrote:You love Joshua and he fights stiffs.

No stirring. In all honesty Truss, I think Khan would fight king Kong for an 8 figure some.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

AdamT wrote:You love Joshua and he fights stiffs.

The guy's a childish clown, it's like having Strongy back without the hint of intelligence.

Look what the cat dragged in. Ring magazine are at lost without such an intelligent fan. I wish I was you hammer. You're the man.

Could you reword that middle sentence as it makes no sense.

It's my lack of intelligence. Please do continue with your almighty put downs. I think you're so great.