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Post by kwinigolfer Thu 29 Sep 2016, 1:03 pm

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Post by McLaren Sat 01 Oct 2016, 6:12 pm

Kaymer/Sergio makes way more sense than Sergio/RCB. NOT.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 01 Oct 2016, 6:17 pm

Shut up Kwini.... Wink

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Post by McLaren Sat 01 Oct 2016, 7:01 pm

To keep it balanced I will also point out that I think Phil should have dropped himself for this afternoons matches.
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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 01 Oct 2016, 8:35 pm

I hope you guys in what Republicans here call "Old Europe" are getting better coverage than we are - haven't seen any live golf now for ten minutes or more.

Too exciting to interrupt like this. Good lord.

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Post by GPB Sat 01 Oct 2016, 8:46 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:I hope you guys in what Republicans here call "Old Europe" are getting better coverage than we are - haven't seen any live golf now for ten minutes or more.

Too exciting to interrupt like this. Good lord.

GC/NBC has been awful

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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 01 Oct 2016, 8:52 pm

Very very evenly poised right now; would say Europe must squeak the lead going into the singles.

Crowd a little quieter this afternoon, same as yesterday really. Even lw1 holing putts. But Sergio missing tiddlers.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 01 Oct 2016, 8:59 pm

Peiters what a star...

Phil kicking ass..

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Post by McLaren Sat 01 Oct 2016, 9:05 pm

Rory got a fan kicked out. Apparently he asked security to eject a guy that shouted "suck a d**k Rory" in his face coming off the 8th.
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Post by McLaren Sat 01 Oct 2016, 9:06 pm

McIlroy clearly getting affected by the crowd but managing to turn it into good golf at the moment.
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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 01 Oct 2016, 9:09 pm

LoveIII got a bit carried away pairing Koepka and Dustin methinks. What a waste to sit Snedeker the way he's putting this week, and he and Koepka ham-and-egged it perfectly twice already.

Work to do by Europe, really need Sergio & Kaymer to win their match.

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Post by SmithersJones Sat 01 Oct 2016, 9:17 pm

Ridiculously good golf this afternoon. I should think the worst pair is going to be about 4 under for the front nine. Cumulative -38 so far with the first group just though 10.
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Post by McLaren Sat 01 Oct 2016, 9:31 pm

Rory and the that fans interaction slightly uglier than I realised. Rory had to be held back.

https://twitter.com/NatE_AndersoN22/status/782306423455686656
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Post by GPB Sat 01 Oct 2016, 9:41 pm

Rory might have no voice tomorrow!

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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 01 Oct 2016, 9:52 pm

No-one said that Peter Willett was wrong, just tactless.

More ads and promos than golf right now . . . . . . . .

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Post by GPB Sat 01 Oct 2016, 10:26 pm

From what I can tell, JB Holmes has really increased his pace of play.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 01 Oct 2016, 10:31 pm

Peter Willett....All about timing..

It was poor..

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Sat 01 Oct 2016, 10:43 pm

What's with the Dad dancing from Mickelson and Kuchar?

Fantastic putt from Kuchar to win that hole.

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Post by McLaren Sat 01 Oct 2016, 10:48 pm

Maybe a little bit mud, but mostly shocking hook.
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Post by SmithersJones Sat 01 Oct 2016, 10:49 pm

Showing your golf knowledge again Mac
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Sat 01 Oct 2016, 10:52 pm

Did you get Feherty saying in commentary "that it had a fun sized Milky Way* attached to the side of it"

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Edit: Same thing happened to DJ in the foursomes this morning

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 01 Oct 2016, 11:03 pm

Europe has showed resolve....

Kaymer should have been Bello..

Big mistake.

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Post by Guest Sat 01 Oct 2016, 11:46 pm

up in 3 the US

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Post by Shotrock Sat 01 Oct 2016, 11:48 pm

Looking mighty good for the Yanks to win the "team" portion of this event. None of that will matter if they don't win tomorrow, however.

Rory looking incredibly impressive.

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Post by GPB Sat 01 Oct 2016, 11:49 pm

Patrick Reed has played his butt off the last two days, particularly this afternoon.

Would like to see Reed vs Rory tomorrow. In about the 9th match.

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Sun 02 Oct 2016, 12:07 am

Have to say as boisterous as Patrick Reed has been this afternoon the match has been played in great spirit.

Lots to do tomorrow if Stenson and Rose can't steal a half point here.

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Post by pedro Sun 02 Oct 2016, 12:07 am

The English chokers are back.

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Post by McLaren Sun 02 Oct 2016, 12:14 am

SmithersJones wrote:Showing your golf knowledge again Mac

It started left, I would have aimed somewhere well away from the water or layed up.. Not that it matters.
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Post by McLaren Sun 02 Oct 2016, 12:17 am

GPB wrote:Patrick Reed has played his butt off the last two days, particularly this afternoon.

Would like to see Reed vs Rory tomorrow.  In about the 9th match.

Pretty sure he would have been on 59 watch this afternoon.



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Post by pedro Sun 02 Oct 2016, 12:23 am

Reed was pretty freaking fabulous.

Think the Garcia-Kaymer pairing was mailed in before Garcia-RCB won their last 3 holes.

But I also wonder if it was Darren Clarke's ego that made him bring his veteran picks back in play. Can't see why it should be more important to get Kaymer and Westy warm for the singles than Sully, RCB, Fitz or Wood.


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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sun 02 Oct 2016, 12:26 am

Somebody give Reed a cigar, that was some wonderful golf from him, considering how little Spieth contributed to their match this afternoon. clap clap

While hindsight is a wonderful thing, you have to question picking Kaymer. He did find a couple of birdies, but all too often it looked like Garcia playing on his own out there (and doing a very good job on the whole, to be fair). Why split a pairing that had been successful with one and a half points from two matches, to put in someone who really wasn't playing well? Madness IMO.

Feel sorry for Wood also, who played very well this morning.

To a degree you get where Clarke was coming from, going with his tried and trusted pairings for the crucial session (exception of Pieters, playing too well to sit out, obviously), but surely backing the form players would have been a better call?

Westwood's afternoon rather summer up his career. Some very fine play indeed for quite a bit of it, but when it got to the crunch his putting let him down: two really poor misses on the last two holes, if he knocks both in, Europe win the match and go into tomorrow's singles only a point down. As it is, it's going to be very difficult. Just not enough players in form IMO. McIlroy, Pieters, Garcia all look good, Stenson and RCB have done pretty well too, but that leaves rather a lot who haven't contributed enough (albeit some haven't really been given the opportunity).

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sun 02 Oct 2016, 12:31 am

pedro wrote:Reed was pretty freaking fabulous.

Think the Garcia-Kaymer pairing was mailed in before Garcia-RCB won their last 3 holes.

But I also wonder if it was Darren Clarke's ego that made him bring his veteran picks back in play. Can't see why it should be more important to get Kaymer and Westy warm for the singles than Sully, RCB, Fitz or Wood.


You do wonder. Kaymer has played as many matches as Sully, Fitz and Wood put together, and played rather less well than all of those from what I've seen. Wood in particular was an integral part of a winning team in the morning, then misses out in the afternoon (seemed pretty gutted about it in his interview too). In contrast, I think everyone has played at least two matches for the US, and not sure anyone but Reed and Spieth have played all four (Europe will have five ever-presents).

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Post by McLaren Sun 02 Oct 2016, 12:32 am

Pedro

See my comments before the afternoon session started. Massive error by DC today in his fourball line up.

Even if he didn't know that RCB would turn it around it was clear that Westie and Kayme should have been nowhere near todays play.

Poor captains picks will be the undoing of DC. Thankfully someone pressured him into taking Thomas.
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Post by pedro Sun 02 Oct 2016, 12:52 am

The problem is he had nobody else to pick. With so many rookies in the team already he couldn't pick more than one, and Pieters was the obvious choice.

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Post by robopz Sun 02 Oct 2016, 12:58 am

Helluva performance by Patrick Reed today... And to do it all with 180 extra #'s on his shoulders.

Speaking of guys who sucked today... Thank you for the magnanimous gift Lee Westwood... Hope Jordan draws Lee in singles tomorrow as he's probably the only Euro Spieth has a chance of hanging with.

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Post by robopz Sun 02 Oct 2016, 1:04 am

Not sure I remember a Ryder Cup with more marvelous shots than this one... From both sides. But isn't it still amazing how many holes are lost by missed little tiddler putts.

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Post by GPB Sun 02 Oct 2016, 1:04 am

There was another obvious choice. He had won two PGATournaments including a WGC event in the last 12 months. Although not all of them counted towards the standings, he had earned more OWGR points in the last 12 month than all except three players on the Euro Team.

I called it four weeks ago. Choosing Lee Westwood was a Lifetime Achievement Pick that reeks of nepotism.

IMO, Westwood would have been picked had GMAC, LUKE, POULTER and CASEY had made the team instead of Sully, Fitz, RCB and Wood. There was no way that Lee Westwood was not going to be a player on the 2016 Ryder Cup team.

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Post by McLaren Sun 02 Oct 2016, 1:09 am

GPB

DC seems to be in utter fear of "rookies", even those with multiple PGAT wins this season.


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Seems you have fallen for DC's rookie mantra. Where apparently players in poor form or those who had to stop playing on US soil due to dire form are more appropriate than "rookies" who are playing well.
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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 02 Oct 2016, 1:17 am

I called Oak Hill and I called Medinah, but can't see any way Europe can win this one - their best players aren't playing well enough and the bottom half of the US Team are playing better than the bottom six of Europe's. Thomas Bjorn's gonna have a job to do en Paris.

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Post by robopz Sun 02 Oct 2016, 1:24 am

GPB... Agree on Westwood & Knox... both when you said it a month ago and obviously even more today. Also you have a PM

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Post by McLaren Sun 02 Oct 2016, 1:28 am

Kwini

If DC is to be believed Wood, Sulli, Fitz amd RCB are playing worse than Westwood and Kaymer. So you are correct, the bottom half of the US team are playing much better than Europe's.
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Post by robopz Sun 02 Oct 2016, 1:33 am

kwinigolfer wrote:I hope you guys in what Republicans here call "Old Europe" are getting better coverage than we are - haven't seen any live golf now for ten minutes or more.

Too exciting to interrupt like this. Good lord.
Coverage was awful today. 4 matches on the course at any given time and they failed to show even half the shots in most of them. Very poor.

But what's even worse... Last couple of times the online RC site at least had a running shot by shot description of every match... But that disappeared this year to. So instead we were held hostage to a slow updating scoreboard and what little NBC chose to share with us.

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Post by robopz Sun 02 Oct 2016, 1:34 am

Reed and Rory in the opening match.... PERFECT !!!

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 02 Oct 2016, 1:34 am

Well Mac, Do you see any way Europe can win?

Reed vs Rory up first.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 02 Oct 2016, 1:34 am

Nothing is over till its over...

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Post by McLaren Sun 02 Oct 2016, 1:37 am

Kwini

I agree with you that this is more than likely going to the USA. At least we get to see Rory vs Reed. If Rory plays his best it will be pretty one sided.
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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 02 Oct 2016, 1:40 am

Kaymer played pretty well this afternoon but hardly made a putt, along with so many Europeans overread putts for two straight days. Rose and Stenson among others that did the same thing. And: Not Kaymer's fault that Sergio missed two crucial shorties.
And Westwood played OK, holed a couple of snakes, but those four tiddlers missed will haunt him (and DC) for ever.

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EDIT: In fact, looking at that line-up, I see a glimmer of hope for Old Europe after all. Don't think Love is that smart front-loading his aces.

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Post by GPB Sun 02 Oct 2016, 1:56 am

kwinigolfer wrote:EDIT: In fact, looking at that line-up, I see a glimmer of hope for Old Europe after all. Don't think Love is that smart front-loading his aces.

Dang, he was criticized for not front loading his lineup 4 yrs ago.  d*nmed if he does, d#mned if doesn't.

Can anyone tell me where this is at in the UK

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 02 Oct 2016, 2:04 am

In 2012 he telegraphed his line-up and Olly got his response spot on and their good play made Woods irrelevant.
But Europe's Team was much deeper then; Love has got Zach as 12th man and that is the best he could have done, but seriously question the wisdom of challenging Europe's best when he knew damn well DC had no choice.

PS: Patrick Reed was beyond brilliant this afternoon.


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Post by GPB Sun 02 Oct 2016, 2:13 am

kwinigolfer wrote:In 2012 he telegraphed his line-up and Olly got his response spot on and their good play made Woods irrelevant.
But Europe's Team was much deeper then; Love has got Zach as 12th man and that is the best he could have done, but seriously question the wisdom of challenging Europe's best when he knew damn well DC had no choice.

PS: Patrick Reed was beyond brilliant this afternoon.


How did he telegraph his lineup in 2012?

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Post by beninho Sun 02 Oct 2016, 9:04 am

I've always though that the captains job is a bit overstated. But I do think clarke has made a mess of this. 3 players with just one appearance is going to be hard for them in singles. Kaymer playing again yesterday afternoon. And the westwood pick looks poor.

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