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[kwinigolfer]

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[pedro]

Heard that Jacquelin and Havret are in the RC back room team. Dunno about Levet tho.

Anyway, off to Paris.

[McLaren]

Just don't know why you cobbled up a porkie to diss Nicklaus.

It's not a porkie, I don't really care for the Golden Bear and will happily diss him. He is not a given in my top 4 of all time. I would consider the cases of Tiger, Snead and Hogan ahead of Jacks and therefore jack is fighting it out with people like Tom Morris I, Palmer, Jones and Mickelson for a place in my top 4.

[ralphjohn69]

Definitely in the top 4 most stupid posts of all time, if not the stupidest......

[super_realist]

Maybe, I don't really know enough about the older guys and how good their competitors were to really rank them.  Either way it is not ridiculous for Tiger to put himself in the top 4.

He probably does belong in there, but it's not a gentlemanly thing to do to stick yourself in there. Probably would have been better telling the interviewer to think up a more original question, as it was a leading question asking Woods to bum himself up, which of course he's happy to do.


It's said that pride comes before a fall, so hopefully Woods stinks out the Ryder Cup as usual.

[McLaren]

Definitely in the top 4 most stupid posts of all time, if not the stupidest......

:D

[GPB]

- Justin: Massive confidence boost, he'll be floating in the clouds and I expect him to play serene impeccable golf this week.

Massive Confidence Boost ?

Massive?

He limped home with a final round 73    Two weeks earlier, Failed to convert a 54 hole lead at the BMW Championship.

FTR: admittedly yes he did birdie the 2nd easiest hole on the course to win a pot full of money.

But I don't think he got a MASSIVE confidence boost

Nah, getting to #1 and the being  most consistent player on the PGA will just destroy his confidence won't it?

Pssst, last time I checked. He just lost the #1 ranking. Couldn't hold onto for one tournament played.

[super_realist]

I said GETTING to #1, that doesn't imply he still has it.

If anyone is going to be riding a wave of confidence, it's going to be Rose.

[GPB]

I said GETTING to #1, that doesn't imply he still has it.

If anyone is going to be riding a wave of confidence, it's going to be Rose.

And Duh, I questioned the adjective "MASSIVE".  Rose has not won a tournament in 4 months.  

Do you not think that losing the #1 ranking might take away from a "MASSIVE" Confidence Boost? Remember, repeating my statement, that I was questioning the adjective MASSIVE, and I was not questioning that he might have a "wave of confidence.

Because I know how much you like the "Strawman argument" and take my statements WAY out of CONTEXT. Because that is who you are, and that is what you do.

IMO, If there is anyone riding a wave of confidence, it would have to Woods.

Playing in the same pairing, Woods beat Rose by three shots on Saturday, and Woods beat Rory by three shots on Sunday.

And, oh yeah, one other thing, Woods WON the tournament this past week.

[super_realist]

Here you go again, Bringing up strokeplay whilst comparing it to matchplay. Who cares if Woods beat Rose and McIlroy over certain rounds at the weekend, what's that got to do with confidence in a matchplay situation? Why even bring that up?

Also, do you think you can only gain (massive) confidence by winning? Do you actually know anything about sport? Confidence is gained through playing consistently well and doing things as you want them to be done. Winning the competition, whilst nice, is not the only way to gain confidence.

Rose might not have won in 4 months, but Moobs hasn't won in FIVE YEARS for goodness sake. Rose has 8 wins in that time AND has a better Ryder Cup record. Not that wins matter of course to matchplay, but Rose has played consistently well for the last 5 years in all formats, Moobs has played well for 8-12 months max over the last 5.


Should Rory take "massive confidence" from gaining more OWGR points than Tiger Moobs this year? If you want to use pointless stats for matchplay how about that one?

It's often inferred that I'm the most miserable person on this board GPB, however you make me look like Kriss Akabusi (look him up), do you get up every morning and take a miserable pill?

[raycastleunited]

I said GETTING to #1, that doesn't imply he still has it.

If anyone is going to be riding a wave of confidence, it's going to be Rose.

And Duh, I questioned the adjective "MASSIVE".  Rose has not won a tournament in 4 months.  

Do you not think that losing the #1 ranking might take away from a "MASSIVE" Confidence Boost?  Remember, repeating my statement, that I was questioning the adjective MASSIVE, and I was not questioning that he might have a "wave of confidence.

Because I know how much you like the "Strawman argument" and take my statements WAY out of CONTEXT.  Because that is who you are, and that is what you do.  

IMO, If there is anyone riding a wave of confidence, it would have to Woods.

Playing in the same pairing, Woods beat Rose by three shots on Saturday, and Woods beat Rory by three shots on Sunday.

And, oh yeah, one other thing, Woods WON the tournament this past week.

Yep, Woods is probably riding a massive wave of confidence. It's not mutually exclusive though, other people can be riding the wave too. I believe Rose will be playing this week with sky high confidence. 10 million reasons to call it massive.

[Diggers]

Apparently, they all brick it on the first tee, they all have their reasons to I guess. Be it to carry on a record that's great, improve a poor one, show you are worth a pick, be a good rookie. I think getting a win under your belt early doors must be the key. Don't think confidence beforehand matters too much (though knowing you are in good nick must be a bonus).

[raycastleunited]

The gallery on the 1st tee is massive (I like that word) and the atmosphere is far more boisterous and partisan compared with anything else they are used to. I imagine the sensation is similar to stepping up to take a penalty in a world cup shoot out. Even major champions are going to brick it.

[GPB]

Here you go again, Bringing up strokeplay whilst comparing it to matchplay. Who cares if Woods beat Rose and McIlroy over certain rounds at the weekend, what's that got to do with confidence in a matchplay situation? Why even bring that up?

Sigh, again, READ MY POST, my original point was the use of the adjective about a MASSIVE Confidence Boost.

Also, do you think you can only gain (massive) confidence by winning? Do you actually know anything about sport? Confidence is gained through playing consistently well and doing things as you want them to be done. Winning the competition, whilst nice, is not the only way to gain confidence.

Forgive me. I always think WINNING gives a athlete a better confidence boost than losing does. I'm sure in your alternate universe that you can rationalizing losing is better for your confidence than winning.

Rose might not have won in 4 months, but Moobs hasn't won in FIVE YEARS for goodness sake. Rose has 8 wins in that time AND has a better Ryder Cup record. Not that wins matter of course to matchplay, but Rose has played consistently well for the last 5 years in all formats, Moobs has played well for 8-12 months max over the last 5.

MOOBS? Who is the he!! is MOOBS? Again with the sophomoric, juvenile junior high school mean girl nicknames. How old are you anyways? I don't know who you are talking about. If it is Tiger, pssst, last time I checked, he just won 5 days ago. {off to google} Yep, he just won the Tour Championship, 5 days ago.

Should Rory take "massive confidence" from gaining more OWGR points than Tiger Moobs this year? If you want to use pointless stats for matchplay how about that one?

Oh, MOOBS is Tiger. Classy as usual. Good for you.

Pssst. Rory has played 22 events in 2018 for 12.7 pts/event, and Tiger has 18 events in 2018, for 13.2

It's often inferred that I'm the most miserable person on this board GPB, however you make me look like Kriss Akabusi (look him up), do you get up every morning and take a miserable pill?

I don't know who he is, and don't care. But I agree with the consensus that you are the most miserable person on this board. You obviously has an obsession to make up pubescent, locker room nicknames, digs at players names and their personal lives. Admittedly, I think you do make some very good points (at times), but they honestly lose credibility with your meaningless wumming. Its just hard to filter your wumming, and get to the point. I can only imagine what your psychological profile would say.

[McLaren]

Not that wins matter of course to matchplay

You are increasingly obsessed with the idea that strokeplay has no bearing on matchplay so I wonder how you would select a Ryder cup squad?  You can't use OWGR points, finishes in tour events, major results, money list positions or any of the normal measures of a players performance because they are based almost exclusively on strokeplay events.  If strokeplay has as little predictive value of matchplay success as you claim, then how would you assemble a squad?

[GPB]

This English kid representing Europe in the Junior Ryder Cup has an interesting name.  And a very interesting Middle Name.

https://junior.rydercup.com/scoring/scorecard/Robin-Williams

[Roller_Coaster]

Ryder Cup really does engender a sense of wellbeing, camaraderie and all round joy, doesn't it?

I'd like Europe to win but as long as I get to see some great golf and some humanity reaffirming sportsmanlike behaviour all round I'll be happy. Fight tooth and nail, shake hands and have a drink together.

Oh and idiotic crowd chanting (either side!) to be punished by something from medieval times. A dunking for a "mashed potato" up to perhaps an iron maiden for a "Get in the hole" on the tee box of a par 5.

[kwinigolfer]

This English kid representing Europe in the Junior Ryder Cup has an interesting name.  And a very interesting Middle Name.

https://junior.rydercup.com/scoring/scorecard/Robin-Williams

There was a well-known Tiger Williams in Major League sport long before there was a Tiger Woods; assume this bloke's family are ice hockey fans.

[GPB]

I would rather watch Europe win with the final match meaningful, than a US blowout.

I consider a blowout something that is over when the final match is on the 11th hole or earlier. My definition of a blowout could include a final score of 15-13, because one team could get to 15 pts really on the 8th match of the day, rendering the final 4 matches "meaningless".

[GPB]

USA should get a free point for making us watch Jain 'Alright' during the Opening Ceremonies.

[Guest]

Opening Fourballs

- Brooks-Finau vs. Rose-Rahm
- DJ-Rickie vs. Rory-Olesen
- JT-Spieth vs. Casey-Hatton
- Tiger-Reed vs. Fleetwood-Molinari

US 3-1 lead. Björn throws the rookies all in

[Diggers]

Some interesting pairs, I wouldn't have called Casey and Hatton or Rose and Rahm. Still think it's pretty much a guessing game rather than any kind of skill or science. Koepka and Finau sounds like a pretty chilled out pairing.
I'll go 2.5 to 1.5 US lead.

[kwinigolfer]

Opening Fourballs

- Brooks-Finau vs. Rose-Rahm
- DJ-Rickie vs. Rory-Olesen
- JT-Spieth vs. Casey-Hatton
- Tiger-Reed vs. Fleetwood-Molinari

US 3-1 lead. Björn throws the rookies all in

Not really. Surprised to see Alex Noren omitted from the Fourballs, kinda saw him as a mainstay of the Team.
Quite surprised that Furyk has left out Mickelson; he can't be saving him for Foursomes, surely?

[super_realist]

Not that wins matter of course to matchplay

You are increasingly obsessed with the idea that strokeplay has no bearing on matchplay so I wonder how you would select a Ryder cup squad?  You can't use OWGR points, finishes in tour events, major results, money list positions or any of the normal measures of a players performance because they are based almost exclusively on strokeplay events.  If strokeplay has as little predictive value of matchplay success as you claim, then how would you assemble a squad?

Mac, you have no choice but to use OWGR points for SOME of the players qualification, however, you seem to think that someone winning a tournament (Fitz) takes precedence over the experience of someone like Garcia or Stenson.

It's how you BALANCE that team with your picks which is where the Captain earns his stripes and who he pairs players with.

I'm fine using strokeplay form for qualification, iv'e never said they shouldn't. My issue with strokeplay form is that it doesn't say much about how they'll play in Matchplay does it?
I've never implied otherwise. Sometimes you make Dustin Johnson look like a genius.

[pedro]

Short report from France.

I think Bjorns plan is to play the remaining 4 in the foursomes, together with Rory, Rose, Molinari and Tommy.

Not surprised they sit Phil and Bubba. Don’t think we’ll see them before Sat fourballs. They didn’t look good today. Bubba pulled his teeshot on 1 despite hitting iron. It almost resulted in a lost ball. The rest of the round he just looked a bit hyper and his putting was dodgy. Obviously fans were heckling him a bit. During the round US team practised quite a bit chipping around the greens, the Euros more the putting.

Most of the European side look relaxed. Olesen, Tommy and Garcia smiling, Casey too of course, Poults and Rory interacting with the crowd.

Reed is also great. Interacts with the crowd despite him knowing they’ll boo at him. Fowler looks like his game is dialed in. Tiger walks like he’s shat in his pants. So either he’s hurting or it was the gala dinner last night. Or maybe he’s just getting older. In fact he didn’t bother to drive on the first hole, so he just walked out with the others.

Also, Rory was the last man leaving the practise range today, a few minutes after Noren. Olesen also stayed long on the putting green.

A lot of Brits here, but also many Irish, Scandinavians, Italians, Spaniards, German and Dutch. And quite a few Americans.

Event is well organised, course is stunning and weather is beautiful, no wind whatsoever. A bit cooler tomorrow.

[Diggers]

You there for the duration, Pedro? Enjoy, sounds great

[pedro]

Just here today and tomorrow digs. Yes it’s great. I think crowds will go bananas tomorrow. My plan is to find a seat on the 2nd tee grandstand, which’ll offer great views of both the 1st and 2nd hole.

[kwinigolfer]

pedro

[GPB]

From the comments earlier this month about Poulter, its hard to believe that he is not playing in the opening session.

[super_realist]

GPB, how could winning the FedEx and $10million not give you massive confidence?

If the mad scientist De Chambeau had won, you'd be all over it. You go on about how anti-American this board is, yet you're far worse for your lack of credit to European Golf.

I wonder if Baldy Woods gets beaten today you'll say he just played poorly?

[TRUSSMAN66]

First four pairings for Europe look weak...Would have started with experience going out with eachother..

Rose/Casey..

Poulter/Rory

Garcia/Molinari..

Those 4 sets look like a gift....

Prediction....EUR 11...USA 17..

US is too strong..

[Davie]

He's BAAAAACK

[TRUSSMAN66]

Better European Team than two years ago.

Was going to predict 15 1/2 - 12 1/2....

Till I saw this morning's line up..

Best of luck and all that

[Diggers]

Have to say from listening to 5 Live this morning the atmosphere sounded absolutely electric.

[Guest]

Spieth looking superb (-5 thru 7)

Rose looking solid, Koepka having a mare.

[GPB]

Its going to be a long weekend for Europe if Rory continues like this.

[Roller_Coaster]

Thus far this morning it looks like it's leaning towards rankings and strokeplay prowess.

[owen10ozzy]

I was surprised with the pairings too has to be said. Obviously hindsight is wonderful but they are odd pairings. Surely you want your rookies to get out but not under immediate pressure to perform? I

Rory seems to have been lumped with Oli in the hope of a Pieters recreation....think Rory Would have been better suited with Fleetwood..Would have stuck with Stenson & Rose....Rahm & Molinari and Poulter\Casey

If US get in 3-1 up its already a long long way back for Europe

[owen10ozzy]

Rory doesn't look like he even wants to be in that pairing ...awkward!

Tails up for the U.S. and like 2 years ago they have all come to play....4-0 would be disastrous and Rose/Rahm just struggling a little atm

[beninho]

It looks close as most predicted. Surely fourball pairings are easier for rookies and better to get them going.

[owen10ozzy]

Rose & Rahm throwing away first game...two easy putts in last three to extend lead.

Also had chances in games 2 and 4 to get ahead and failed. Poor putting could really haunt us over these last few holes. Should be up in 3 now...

I think too much is made of fourball being easier for rookies. I'd rather be a rookie going out ahead than playing in the morning knowing the pressure to get points on the board and get ahead. Also if your experienced head doesn't perform such as Rory this morning then all the pressure is on the rookie and that's some heat to have you on you...

Should be 3 up in Game 1 ...now all square. Suffice to say Europe blowing it across the board this morning and concerns with the pairings showing....that said great fight back from Casey/Hatton

[AlciG]

Should sit Rory in the afternoon

[owen10ozzy]

Yeah feel sorry for Oleson...played well but had a bit of a shellacking thanks to Rory. That played out to be the terrible pairing most though it would be. Didnt work at all. Fancy US to take this morning 4-0 now!

What pairings do Europe need to put out this afternoon now?!

How are we thinking on Bjorns reign this early on?

[Guest]

McIlroy & Olesen lose 4&2 to Johnson & Fowler

[Duty281]

It's going to be a very long weekend for Europe.

[owen10ozzy]

Agreed....we have definitely thrown away chances today but I haven't watched any of our pairings and thought 'they look comfortable'...

Experience with Rookie just hasnt worked

[owen10ozzy]

Oh dear god...Fleetwood fluffs his lines and another chance gone. Europe crumbling in the pressure moments to get ahead atm.

[owen10ozzy]

Rahm hits a crap drive again and Rose finds water....not a surprise pressure got to him...carried Rahm most of the way around...

This will be the biggest loss given we should have been home and dry by 14th.

Think your right too Ali....sit Rory...head doesn't look right at all..

4-0 morning session...Bjorns calls have backfired massively and its over before it's begun in my opinion

Got to go with...

Stenson/Rose
Casey /Poulter
Olesen/Noren
Garcia/Molinari

[owen10ozzy]

Molinari now finds water.....man what are Europe doing...absolute dog Poopie!!

[Guest]

Rose & Rahm lose to Koepka & Finau

Europe 0-2 USA

[GPB]

Final Match is way out of position.

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