6CW Chat v15

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Fernando wrote:

Pretty much the 2003/4 Undertaker vs Kane feud.

Hero v Cerebus in comparison would be more Taker v Brimstone.

I think too many failed comebacks have demoted you to fake Kane im afraid buddy

How many World Titles did fake Kane hold?

8 time!
8 time!

How many 6CW titles have you won

1 I think?

And you say your not fake kane

I've won that many across a multitude of companies that's it hard to keep count.

None in 6CW though - You are at zero

World titles I'm at zero, looking through the history logs I've had 2 different titles though (one as Bam)

Even ive won that many

You've probably been in 6CW longer than me!

We've taken more than that off you Nando

Forever persecuted

Haven't been around that long tbf took a good 2-3 year break

Just part of what is to forever be known as the 'Golden Era of 6CW' Nando?

Not like when just anyone could pick up championship reigns

My chance of a World Title Reign is on similar levels to Edd & Olly's chances of seeing a non-relative's vagina in the next 3 years

Fernando wrote:My chance of a World Title Reign is on similar levels to Edd & Olly's chances of seeing a non-relative's vagina in the next 3 years

It's been well established Ed is back into hiding now Halloween has passed and little kids aren't knocking on his door asking for a treat....

So what's your excuse then

So as Hero did with Bam can we count every title we've won with every character then?!

3 World titles (2 x EWF / 1xWSW (it counts))
1 TV Title
1 hardcore/1 Extreme title
1 tag team title

(3 unofficial UK Title wins during a scramble ) I add this so that every long running character I've had has won something

Really desperate when you're taking credit for that Tag title win!

If your world title win counts then so does my tag win.
I like that you didn't bring up the WSW win though

8 world titles.
First Undisputed world title.
First Grand Slam winner.
Really haven't a clue on the other belts.

Messy promo up Dolph, Thunder, Nay

Evening all

Some good QOTD's flying about. I'll try and catch up and answer them.

xviperx wrote:QOTD...and I know what's coming but I'm interested to see what people think...

1. Are there any members of the current roster who you just can't see turning heel or face?
2. Have there been any heel or face turns that have shocked you in 6CW/6WF and why?
3. If you could turn any superstar heel or face who would you pick?

(Get the Liam Wood heel/face jokes out of the way)

1) I can't see Dicey turning heel - not anymore. He's Stone Cold (I know he turned heel ) Can't see Thunder turning Heel. Like someone else said, he's Cena. Anyone else I could see turning. Crime Lord would be difficult.

2) Lex Hart : Genesis. Best ever.

3) I would turn Robin Reborn heel by attacking Thunder. He gives off an annoying mate vibe sometimes. Can imagine Reborn, when he's down on his luck, not buying the positivity schtick and slamming him.

Oh... There was only 1 question

I'll give you some more to answer then

QOTD: Favourite Liam Wood match...just kidding.

(actual) QOTD's:
1. Who in your opinion is the best e-fedder of all time and why?
2. Who in you opinion is the best e-fed character of all time and why?

Optional possibly controversial QOTD:
3. Has there been a character you haven't quite got despite them doing well?

I did a Qotd too

Morning all

QOTD: Favourite Liam Wood match...just kidding.
The one where he lost to Max Adamson in the TV Title Tournament

(actual) QOTD's:
1. Who in your opinion is the best e-fedder of all time and why?
He won't appreciate the praise but Demon. Cassius Zhi has been the most consistent heel ever and before that the Trash TV stuff (albeit not all his work) showed the different levels to his work.
Killer.

2. Who in you opinion is the best e-fed character of all time and why?
Best character of all time, again Cassius Zhi. Nigel Napalm if he were around for longer. The longevity of Cassius makes him the best at least for me.
Killer.

Optional possibly controversial QOTD:
3. Has there been a character you haven't quite got despite them doing well?
I never really got Jerome Dubois, to me he was just Rene Dupree with a different name. And the promos in broken French were hard to read. He's done a lot for 6CW but in terms of promoing I didn't get the character.
Liam Wood.

Dicey Reilly wrote:QotD: How do you see the EWF tourney semi finals going and where will that leave the losers of it?

Sorry Dicey...

So I do see Engel v Wood for the final but I'm unsure of how it goes...the way Thunder was acting in the last match makes me think that he'll get involved and cost Wood leading to Wood costing Thunder the title at the PPV and a feud without the title starting up. I would say that I'm not sure how I'd want it to go...part of me (the selfish side) would like Wood to go through and fight one on one for the title and maybe get a shot of actually having a title run as Wood has twice now been a transitional champion which sucks slightly.

I agree with Nando though about the rest really...I can see some of the guys fighting for the TV Title and JJ v Gazzy seems like the huge feud to come out of this.

I'll answer my own QOTD in a bit.

Marky wrote:QOTD: Favourite Liam Wood match...just kidding.
The one where he lost to Max Adamson in the TV Title Tournament

Is that because it's the last show you read?

xviperx wrote:

Marky wrote:QOTD: Favourite Liam Wood match...just kidding.
The one where he lost to Max Adamson in the TV Title Tournament

Is that because it's the last show you read?

I'm up to date with shows now. Sort of.

xviperx wrote:I'll give you some more to answer then

QOTD: Favourite Liam Wood match...just kidding.

(actual) QOTD's:
1. Who in your opinion is the best e-fedder of all time and why?
2. Who in you opinion is the best e-fed character of all time and why?

Optional possibly controversial QOTD:
3. Has there been a character you haven't quite got despite them doing well?

1. Paul (Cassius) - there's rarely a promo he does that's less than a B+ (well apart from that drunken classic)
2. Going to be honest on my opinion on this and say Hero, far too many efedders make their stars out to be generic superstars without weaknesses and foibles, Hero came with a multitude of these. He had issues, depth, family, comedy & tragedy, a character for me is defined by his weaknesses rather than his strengths.
3. Crime Lord. Sorry! Great promoer, but just a rubbish name and he doesn't do enough lording of crime.

Morning all

QOTD: Favourite Liam Wood match...just kidding.
Has he ever faced Marshall? I think there might have been a tag match with them in, if so, that one

(actual) QOTD's:
1. Who in your opinion is the best e-fedder of all time and why?
Slightly off kilter perhaps, but either Crimey or Mat (I'm climb down off the fence for the next couple of questions), both have been around for yonks without a break with the same character, whilst still maintaining a good standard, which is a hell of an effort. The other names that spring to mind, Hero, JJ, ED etc have all breaks from e-fedding, and in my experience you tend to come back with a new lease of life after a break, so to be able to carry on the standard without a break is ridiculous really

2. Who in you opinion is the best e-fed character of all time and why?
I'm a huge Lex Hart fan, there are so many layers to the character after all that's happened throughout the years, face and heel are both very convincing, and I didn't answer yesterdays QOTD but his Genesis heel turn reveal is the best all of time for me.

Optional possibly controversial QOTD:
3. Has there been a character you haven't quite got despite them doing well?
Can I do a whole list?  Number 1 for me is Logan Kincade, and I'm not basing it on the 6CW return which hasn't really materialised, because that happens. He was given a massive push in 6WF, but for all it was for me was swearing and randomly shouting every few lines. Never got him at all

I want to see a list Marsh...unless I'm on it...then nope!

but for all it was for me was swearing and randomly shouting every few lines.

Isn't that Dicey?

1. Who in your opinion is the best e-fedder of all time and why?
I could list a few but for me personally, when he's around and on fire MtotheC might be the one for me...his work with Costello was great and it's just a shame that he's had to take time away.

2. Who in you opinion is the best e-fed character of all time and why?
I've not been around the whole time but for me, since the rebirth Max Adamson may be my favourite character...forget the quiet stint he's had as it's more than understandable but Marky's promos are consistent, he plays the role that's needed really well and there's a reason he was 6CW and 6WF Champion all at once. I also like that he can play comedy, face, heel...whatever and it feels natural for the character.

Optional possibly controversial QOTD:
3. Has there been a character you haven't quite got despite them doing well?
An obscure one is Simon Cagero, he was around for a bit and ended up winning the UK Title but his promos were inner monologues and they felt as if it would stop any interaction with the character.

I have others but I'm keeping them to myself like a p*ssy ahah

Hero wrote:

but for all it was for me was swearing and randomly shouting every few lines.

Isn't that Dicey?

FECK, AR*E, GIRLS

xviperx wrote:I want to see a list Marsh...unless I'm on it...then nope!

I'll not go into massive detail, but I always thought these were overrated (not necesarily bad - just overhyped)

Uryu - well that one was probably obvious
Blue Dragon - see Logan Kincade
AberdeenSteve's characters - he was good, but he wasn't the god like levels of good people made him out to be
Chaos - again I liked the character, and Gregers was a good guy but he wasn't world champion / main event material at a time when Hero, Patricks, Cassius, Saint, Adamson etc were all around
There's also those who I didn't see at their peak, but their returns never lived up to the hype such as Abe Abercorn, Nemesis etc

xviperx wrote:2. Who in you opinion is the best e-fed character of all time and why?
I've not been around the whole time but for me, since the rebirth Max Adamson may be my favourite character...

Nice of you to say.

Although Adamson isn't done yet.

QOTD: Favourite Liam Wood match...just kidding
All the ones were he lost

(actual) QOTD's:
1. Who in your opinion is the best e-fedder of all time and why?

Hard question as there have been loads of guys that have done a lot in their time in the feds I've been in so I can't just pick one


2. Who in you opinion is the best e-fed character of all time and why?

Character wise I loved a few, Napalm, Max, Leone, Zhi, James, Marsh, PJ, Lex, Uryu, Bull, Gregers, Gazzy, Steel, they all brought something different to the table and I have enjoyed reading and being part of their storylines over the years, so I cant pick (I know but I have so much love to give)

Optional possibly controversial QOTD:
3. Has there been a character you haven't quite got despite them doing well?

Never got a few, Crime Lord, TGA, Tyson Armstrong, Thunder just to name a few

QOTD


1. Best e-fedder of all time? Had to be Mat for me. He's the jenga piece to the e-fed community and has been forever
2. Best e-fed character? I love Marshall, really enjoyed Mr Kenty and Chris Patricks in my brief 6WF stint, but best has to be Cassius imo
3. I never understood Conor Anderson, and to be honest I never really understood Takeo(very one trick pony). Currently? I don't always fully get Heath (although that's changing)

Fav Liam wood match? The one where he lost the title at NOG (oh hey Liam)

Seen as I've mentioned my dislikes, I thought I'd show my positive side

Aside from Lex my favourite characters from over the years have been Hero, Cassius, both CP and Dicey, Max, Clarke James & Cameron Faith. Also Mike Hill in his 'standard' run might be one of my best ever standalone runs, that was superb.

The two that I loved that just disappeared were Longinus and Edan Ekram, both could have been great. Was Edan's someone's second character? He was almost too good to be completely new to e-fedding and then just vanish

Edan was probably Marky or JJ, it always is

Ah that's just reminded me - controversial opinion but I prefered Angelo Anniere as a character to JJ Johnson, so much so I ended up for voting for what turned out to be JJ (thinking Angelo was legitimately a new promoer) as best newcomer in the Trashies when he'd been around for years

Best e-fedder of all time;

There are 3 lenses I would view this through – just to spread the praise around.

1 – Formation. I think without Hero’s creativity and quality at the outset of 6WF, neither fed would have existed far beyond the formative months/year. He was probably the guy the early fed was built around and the guy who’s influence held most sway (until 6WE)

2 – Longevity. Crime Lord for his consistency and never going stale despite doing this for 8 years solidly. For me he has always been the strongest World Champion when he is holding the gold. The majority of guys lose something when they become champion IMO, but it embellishes Crime Lord every time. Added to this that he has never even turned face, how he has resisted going stale is unbelievable.

3 – Quality. Has to be JJ Johnson. Nobody creates a big fight feel like JJ. Makes every match an event through his promoing alone. And he has contributed heavily to the creative process throughout.

Best character of all time

I think Miss Jessica is amazing. I can say that because I didn’t create her.

Agree with Lex Hart. I still remember seeing his character sheet and thinking the Hart gimmick will last about 2 weeks, and he has completely transcended it to become a multi-layered, complex and entertaining character.

Max Adamson (not just because he said me) is brilliant too. As a character he can fit into any situation that is required. He somehow retains a slight underdog spirit even when he is an all-out heel. And he is the funniest character without ever compromising his seriousness in the ring.

Dicey Reilly becomes my favourite 6CW character more and more with every passing week. I can just buy into what he's all about. Reflective of modern day society and all that jazz

Character I didn’t get

Tyson Armstrong. Always. There was nothing about him at all. No character, no depth, just a ridiculous undeserving winning streak.

Adamson certainly was a close 2nd as my fave, thought for years he'd always be the bridesmaid as his character often had what was considered too much of a humour element to him so it was great to see the World Titles finally start rolling in for him when they did.

And thanks Marky. I do appreciate the praise. I always do.... far too much You take what you can get in life, and if mine is only to come from pretending to be a wrestler then so be it

Miss Jessica is basically what Steph McMahon should be.

New Questions

1) Who in your opinion didn't live up to their potential
2) Whats you opinion on people having multiple characters, does it work?
3) Referring to Marsh's post on JJ being AA, whats your opinion on people returning secretly or creating a new character in a new guise