6CW Chat v15

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1) Bam Sparkleston or Anonymous. Both should have been amazing characters and I still hope that someone else at some point takes them on.

2) See above for why not.

3) As above, probably not for the best, my fave failure on a return was using the wrong account to promo as MC ZOM B.

1) Who in your opinion didn't live up to their potential
I'd say that currently I feel that Aaron Heath, despite getting a good build isn't reaching his full potential due to the fact that Ed hasn't been about and has never really been around early enough for b&f's meaning we aren't seeing his dynamic with other wrestlers which for me has made some great feuds. I'm not saying he's sh¡t or anything like that, I just want to see more from him in terms of building the character.

So since the rebirth, for me Chaos is one of these guys, I wasn't around when he was in 6WF/6CW before but the character was really interesting and the split personality thing was being done really well but sadly he left. There was a guy called Dario Machiavelli in EWF, he was a great character but he disappeared early on...the gimmick might not have lasted but from the early on shows it was going really well...I miss Bam as well Hero.

2) Whats you opinion on people having multiple characters, does it work?
I think as long as the person has enough time to do more than one character and the characters are different enough that it doesn't just feel like the same character then I'm all for it...I currently have two active wrestlers on the roster with Wood and Perez but overall have had Plague, and Stevens as well and did struggle at times when I had all four kind of going at the same time across EWF/6CW and 6WF so it's down to not stretching yourself too thin and making sure you don't neglect characters.

I would say though that in some ways one character will hold the other back...Anthony Grace for me didn't reach his potential in a way because it seemed like he was built to be world champion but with Joshua holding the belt he was never able to do so.

3) Referring to Marsh's post on JJ being AA, whats your opinion on people returning secretly or creating a new character in a new guise
I think if it's cleared with the bosses then it's fine...I think with some promoers there will always be a 'stigma' attached to them and they will always be a certain character...so if it's to almost give the character a fair start then I have no issue. The issue would be if it was so that the person promoing were able to get advantages...for example have two characters holding titles at the same time which is something you rarely see due to fairness.

1) Who in your opinion didn't live up to their potential

Longinus and Edan as mentioned before, also I think me and Rich, based on the first year of CoH you'd have thought we'd have both been multi time world champs by now, but for one reason or another neither of us have been able to hit those heights again.

2) Whats you opinion on people having multiple characters, does it work?
Yes, I think Twist proved it with Joshua and Grace, although I think if you have more than one character you should be prepared for one of them not to pushed, as with Liam Wood and Perez now

3) Referring to Marsh's post on JJ being AA, whats your opinion on people returning secretly or creating a new character in a new guise  
No objections to people creating a new character, but being honest I hate it when they try and hide it, and create a new identity as a poster. If there's an end game in mind, such as Angelo being revealed as JJ then fine, otherwise it just all feels a bit dishonest to me

(actual) QOTD's:
1. Who in your opinion is the best e-fedder of all time and why?
Demon - from Trash TV to Cassius itself is a ridiculous difference in characters but to pull both of them off. 

2. Who in you opinion is the best e-fed character of all time and why?
JJ Johnson - the closest any feds have had to The Rock

Optional possibly controversial QOTD:
3. Has there been a character you haven't quite got despite them doing well?
Clarke James following the break up - whilst I think Marsh found a good niche, I never quite got what Clarke James was. I think a lot of this came down to the fact that Beer was on creative so just used the character to fill holes, so in the end the character became a blank slate.

I understand the criticism of the name Crime Lord, but in my defence I was 14/15 when I decided on a character and the name has just stuck. It seems a little cheap to change it now, like The Undertaker was still The Undertaker when he was a biker, Triple H is still technically Hunter Hearst Hemsley etc.

Marsh wrote:2) Whats you opinion on people having multiple characters, does it work?
Yes, I think Twist proved it with Joshua and Grace, although I think if you have more than one character you should be prepared for one of them not to pushed, as with Liam Wood and Perez now

This is a really good point and one I thought about when making my characters

Liam Wood will always be the main one for me, he's the first one I made and my favourite to write as he's basically me with more confidence etc.
Perez is the comedy/jobber style guy and someone I made to just have fun with...if I lose with him it never really bothers me as long as one or two things make people laugh in my promos.
then guys like Stevens and Plague were the more character types built to get extreme and push me to play a gimmick.

Hero wrote:1) Bam Sparkleston or Anonymous. Both should have been amazing characters and I still hope that someone else at some point takes them on.

2) See above for why not.

3) As above, probably not for the best, my fave failure on a return was using the wrong account to promo as MC ZOM B.

I loved that fail

Good questions - I'll answer them at lunch

Hero - your new characters were always the easiest to spot because you have the distinctive formatting of promoing which you never change even when pretending to be somebody new!

I still to this day don't see my own formatting!

I
Have to
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there

I
Don't
Do
That!

QOTD: Favourite Liam Wood match...just kidding.

The Adamson TV tournament win.

(actual) QOTD's:
1. Who in your opinion is the best e-fedder of all time and why?

I loved E's work. And think Marky on song just absolutely gets it. Paul has also done everything with almost unmatchable success and would be my pick for first hall of famer were it to be a real thing.

2. Who in you opinion is the best e-fed character of all time and why?

Adamson, Enforcer, and whilst I wasn't always a much-loved person with the writer, I think Grace could have been so many things and was a great creation.

Optional possibly controversial QOTD:
3. Has there been a character you haven't quite got despite them doing well?

There are people I have only seen the myth of, and would like to see them recreate the legend.

1) Who in your opinion didn't live up to their potential

From my time: Lex hasn't been able to, and I've never been able to see real JJ so I'm happy he is now back and on promo duty as a primary target. Costello fading in and out has hurt me personally, I just love that character, Hero hasn't had any longevity on many comebacks since I've been here! Also, Ed has loads to offer but is short on confidence and motivation.

Grace also got cut at the knees.

2) Whats you opinion on people having multiple characters, does it work?

It can, yeah. As long as people understand where they are and what impact having the multiples can have then it definitely works.

3) Referring to Marsh's post on JJ being AA, whats your opinion on people returning secretly or creating a new character in a new guise?

It depends on the reasons. I don't like it when its underhand, but usually people have valid reasons to do so.

Afternoon all,

So much to catch up on! These QOTD's get pretty deep.

Shall do it all in one - I did a minor stint in 6WF as a tag team partner of Dr Shoe so don't be offended if don't say much about that

QOTD: Favourite Liam Wood match...just kidding. < The one that led to your amazing biatch fit on the FB chat about losing too much.

(actual) QOTD's:
1. Who in your opinion is the best e-fedder of all time and why? JJ or Marky
2. Who in you opinion is the best e-fed character of all time and why? See above for lack of details

Optional possibly controversial QOTD:
3. Has there been a character you haven't quite got despite them doing well?

Chaos (Urgent PM related)/Thunder/Edward Plague/Michael Sweetwater/Whoever was Internecio (olden day sh*t)
In some ways Robin Reborn - Never really stood out apart from Jack Hurst tbh but now 6CW champ

1) Who in your opinion didn't live up to their potential
Engel the 1st time around/Anonymous was fun then dropped off/Josh Valor/Aaron Heath/DeMarcus Brown/Costello


2) Whats you opinion on people having multiple characters, does it work?
If it differs from your old character then it's alright but when it crosses over it becomes pointless really. E.g Liam Wood & Austin Stevens essentially being the same thing post heel turn.

Something's just don't work e.g Man Mountain Mike

3) Referring to Marsh's post on JJ being AA, whats your opinion on people returning secretly or creating a new character in a new guise

If it's a big name and going to be revealed eventually sure. Im more partial just to PM'ing creative a promo instead of going about making accounts surely that's easier

1) Scorpion didn't live up to his potential. He was actually a quality promoer beneath all the gimmicks and the ocassional nonsense. Could have gone really far.

At present James McManus is not living up to his potential. A great promoer with a really strong character. Would love to see him more active to open up his bags of potential.

2) Multiple characters is great if people have the time to devote to them. I couldn't these days. But at times I imagine it has been a fed-saver when interest has been lower than usual. But it requires consistency because you don't want to be letting opponents down with your 2nd character, and I think you have to be prepared for one of them to job out more regularly than usual.

3) I think the returning under a new guise thing is so overdone now that it is obvious (not WHO but definitely that it is someone). And it puts everyone on edge a bit and suspicious. I think if it's genuinely done for a big angle I.e. The person under a mask is actually an old character, or some new guy is related to another character somehow then it's ok. But otherwise I don't see the point.

Before the inevitable arguments and annoyances of others start ill add in a fun one.

QOTD no.7 - If Creative was sacked and you were chosen to lead a team of new writers + 3 others who would you choose?

#JustCasuallySearchingForDolph'sReplacement

Nay and Olly.... obviously.
With Finlay thrown in to make it 4

I agree, I'd just leave Olly and Nay to do what they think's best

I actually feel sorry for a genuine new guy trying to get involved nowadays.

Oh and there's some breaking news gone up on the promo thread...

It's Zheng.

Sounds like natural causes to me

A picture hanging accident

Marsh wrote:I agree, I'd just leave Olly and Nay to do what they think's best

I'm glad the 6CW universe appreciated our run.

I'm still outraged we weren't automatically promoted when Paul Mac fake left creative. #make6CWgreatagain #voteOllyBother

I assume you two quite comfortably won WWA?

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:

Marsh wrote:I agree, I'd just leave Olly and Nay to do what they think's best

I'm glad the 6CW universe appreciated our run.

I'm still outraged we weren't automatically promoted when Paul Mac fake left creative. #make6CWgreatagain #voteOllyBother

Fake left haha - Its a reduced schedule

Fernando wrote:QOTD: Favourite Liam Wood match...just kidding. < The one that led to your amazing biatch fit on the FB chat about losing too much.

2) Whats you opinion on people having multiple characters, does it work?
If it differs from your old character then it's alright but when it crosses over it becomes pointless really. E.g Liam Wood & Austin Stevens essentially being the same thing post heel turn.

If you can show evidence of me having a "biatch" fit over a loss on FB or even name the match then I'll be shocked Nando. I've taken almost every loss and just got on with it and never once had a huge fit over one...I might have said I would have done it differently or asked how to improve but that's something I asked creative after winning the world title...I've argued on the chat with people but that was normally because I played devil's advocate when they were annoyed about booking decisions...tell you what, if you can name the match...it'll be me getting you the skittles.

As for the Wood/Stevens heel thing...it's why I was against Wood turning heel for so long as I knew the characters would become similar, it's probably why Stevens had to go in the end.

Are you also Thunder, viper?

You owe me some skittles Paul mac has confirmed this

#Can'tArgueWithCreativeDecisions

Marsh wrote:I assume you two quite comfortably won WWA?

We did in the minds of the people who mattered (i.e. Not gregers)

You are gonna have to learn how people use hashtags. You can't put punctuation in them!

Reaper wrote:Are you also Thunder, viper?

no...sadly not as I'd still be world champion other wise.

I once did admit to being him as a joke and everyone thought I was being serious because of something to do with out I.P addresses...that being said I can 100% guarantee that we are different people...we went to the same school and are real life friends but that's as close as it gets to us being the same person.

and Nando...no match was named, Paul just said that people who are throwing bitch fits don't see it themselves...he never even said that I did so suck it.

#Why'sThatChristopher?.IThoughtItLooksNifty.?

That Marshall promo wasn't funny at all

I enjoyed the policeman's initials in the Hero promo

Wondered if anyone would spot that

That Marsh promo is outstanding. Phenomenally good

Yeah that is just top top drawer.

Evening Gents. How do?

Evening CZ, you all good?

Very much so.
Excited for the whole build up to whatever the next PPV is

I would assume it's the ever christmassy or porno dependent which way you look at it... Season's Beatings next.

I think it should be renamed Born in Fire due to 6WF's victory at Beachfront. Would really stick in the craw of 6CW that

should have a 'get the F in' campaign.

Great promo from Marsh - Apart from not knowing what the show is called, Lockdown pfft and don't give me it was deliberate because now 6WF are the dominant brand bull!!

That seems a bit jolly in the middle of a murder investigation

That's because no one cares about Hero apart from Marsh

It's an early christmas present!

Paul Mac 6CW wrote:Great promo from Marsh - Apart from not knowing what the show is called, Lockdown pfft and don't give me it was deliberate because now 6WF are the dominant brand bull!!

Cheers Paul, but this was in my promo for the last show...

CG: ‘It’s interesting you mention 6WF being a ‘team’, yet the 5 of you face off over two matches at Aftermath this week, what are your thoughts on that, are 6CW management punishing you for the victory?’

MM: ‘Firstly, it’s Lockdown, it’s Monday so we facing off at Lockdown

Nice to see creative taking notes

Marsh wrote:

Paul Mac 6CW wrote:Great promo from Marsh - Apart from not knowing what the show is called, Lockdown pfft and don't give me it was deliberate because now 6WF are the dominant brand bull!!

Cheers Paul, but this was in my promo for the last show...

CG: ‘It’s interesting you mention 6WF being a ‘team’, yet the 5 of you face off over two matches at Aftermath this week, what are your thoughts on that, are 6CW management punishing you for the victory?’

MM: ‘Firstly, it’s Lockdown, it’s Monday so we facing off at Lockdown

Nice to see creative taking notes

He's only "part time" now